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I call BS on this. I’ve tried the tech woven case multiple times, and also tried the clear case at the store, no scratch and certainly no dent on my orange 17PM. But of course I f one uses pliers, a lot of things can happen, or a case that’s not meant for a 17PM…
The normal iPhones were all aluminum bodies too right? So it's not like this is the first aluminum phone Apple has made. (Supporting your statement).
 
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The normal iPhones were all aluminum bodies too right? So it's not like this is the first aluminum phone Apple has made. (Supporting your statement).
Than why are these so fragile? Bad batch? If I wait will they release a stronger version? Also how long do trade in deals at AT&T usually last?
 
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Than why are these so fragile? Bad batch? If I wait will they release a stronger version? Also how long do trade in deals at AT&T usually last?
No idea - I haven't really looked into it - I opted for keeping my 15 Pro Max so I can't really say. But some of the pics show the sides crumbling when hit - but that's why I have AppleCare+ (even today, on my 15 Pro Max) :D.

And I'm on Verizon - they usually have them all year long. I usually get via Apple with the Apple Card - had a bad experience at a Verizon store so I avoid those if I can :p
 
Had the 13 PM since brand new. Finally upgraded to the 17 PM. After four years, there is more than enough upgrades between 13 and 17 Pro to justify the cost for me personally. Now I just have to ride the 17 PM for another four years.. Seems pretty solid with the battery!
 
i have a mint condition 13 pro max. i only briefly thought about getting a 17 pro max, and that was on launch day. then i let it go. waiting on their fold. went to the store and looked at the z fold and thought about that, but don’t want to spend that much to replace it a year later and i don’t think that i could go 1 year on android. way too hard.
 
Had the 13 PM since brand new. Finally upgraded to the 17 PM. After four years, there is more than enough upgrades between 13 and 17 Pro to justify the cost for me personally. Now I just have to ride the 17 PM for another four years.. Seems pretty solid with the battery!
I’m close to really thinking it’s time to upgrade because the 17 pm is basically free from AT&T with trade in. Any idea why people are now posting about green screen tint? They are saying that there’s 3 different screens or something Apple is using??
 
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