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Touch ID Bypass Detailed, 'Average Consumer' Shouldn't Worry

This whole thing is total FUD. 99% of the time your phone will be stolen or lost while you're out and about. How exactly is a thief even going to attempt to crack the Touch ID if he doesn't even know who owns the phone? Ridiculous... Touch ID is perfectly safe for 99.99% of people.
 
Frisco said:
Apple went in the wrong direction to unlock your phone. They should have included a DNA sensor instead of the Touch ID.

DNA is much harder to fake.
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You're talking about something that would have to sequence thousands of genes repeatedly, somehow compensate for the inevitable contamination in a non-serile environment, all while being small enough and cheap enough for a smartphone. To my knowledge such a sensor is beyond our current level of technology.
 
BC2009 said:
The tell-tale part here is "requiring just 30 hours".
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While I'm in the camp that this is largely a non-story, MacRumors did a terrible job in misleading readers on this part. The full quote stated:

"It took me nearly 30 hours from unpacking the iPhone to a [bypass] that worked reliably. With better preparation it would have taken approximately half an hour. I spent significantly more time trying to find out information on the technical specification of the sensor than I actually spent bypassing it."

Point being, the 30 hours is not indicative of what it would normally take and should be understood in context. Still, mostly a non-story nonetheless, but readers should realize that the 30 hours piece is mostly meaningless.
 
I can't believe there are people who think this is less safe than a 4 digit code.

1000$ + 30h vs looking over a shoulder


Not to mention that you need a good and clear print on the screen which would be very rare

I think it's an improvement in safety and convenience
 
I assume Apple can implement the requirement of both your fingerprint and a passcode for the real security concerned.
 
While I agree that for many people this isn't really a threat, for people in urban areas I would be more wary. Phone theft is already a huge deal in cities like NYC, just ask the police there. There is a large black market for stolen phones, particularly new iPhones. If a ring of phone thieves can set up a shop for $1000 to get into the phones with touch sensors on, even if they don't get into all of them, it's something to be concerned about. Basically, with a little time, some luck and some equipment, they can circumvent Activation Lock, the biggest real security feature of the new iPhone.

So how long until Apple has to issue free lint-free wipes to clean your phone of fingerprints like they did with the iPhone 4 bumpers. 😉
 
APlotdevice said:
You're talking about something that would have to sequence thousands of genes repeatedly, somehow compensate for the inevitable contamination in a non-serile environment, all while being small enough and cheap enough for a smartphone. To my knowledge such a sensor is beyond our current level of technology.
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You're arguing with a sarcastic comment.
 
Simple enroll your middle-finger which I suspect few people use to operate the iPhone.

Then you are unlikely to leave a useable or retrievable print.

I have noticed that I leave a very nice print on the home button the first time I login. It gets quite smeared as I continue to use the phone.
 
skafia said:
I'll be using one of my toes. Nobody would ever figure it out.
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Wrong. I'm going to figure out your IP address, find your home, rob you of your iPhone, force you to unlock it with your toe, order a bunch of stuff from Amazon, hijack the UPS truck delivering it and then use my nifty neuralyzer on the entire planet for good measure. That'll show you that TouchID is an epic fail.
 
Find My iPhone

All Apple needs to do is just to add "wipe fingerprint data" function in Find My iPhone.
So you need 30 hours to replicate my fingerprint? Better pray the fingerprint data is still there for you to unlock.

Not that the "Wipe Data" function doesn't already cover this.

Which one is more frustrating for the thief, able to unlock and find the phone is already wiped, or spending 30 hours on a useless fake fingerprint that doesn't even work?
 
Dwalls90 said:
No thanks.

Why would I want to use TouchID AND a passcode?

TouchID is supposed to remove the need for the passcode ...
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Sure it is, but why not include the option to require both? Then the people that only want Touch ID, the people that only want a passcode, and the people that want both are all happy.
 
Step 1. Spend a thousand dollars for equipment.

Step 2. Find a good print hoping it's the correct finger.

Step 3. Spend 30 hours processing the print.

Step 4. Oops wrong finger... Start over at Step 2.

Step 5. Oops still wrong finger.

Step 6. Oops wrong finger 5 times now locked out. 150 hours processing time wasted.

Step 7. Put gun to head

Step 8. Pull trigger. 😛
 
Simple protection for me...

i almost always use my thumbs to use the phone, but my index finger to unlock it.

unlikly to find a useable print.
 
APlotdevice said:
How am I supposed to know it is sarcasm in a medium that lacks intonation? Especially when people say things like that in complete seriousness on the internet ALL THE TIME?
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Occam's razor. Either the poster is moronic enough to think that DNA ID system to unlock your phone is realistically viable or he's being sarcastic.

And really, if he's that moronic, you really want to waste your time debating him?
 
Touch ID is secure enough.

They just proved that someone can make a mold of your fingerprint, just the same way anyone can make copie of your keyes, or credit card. With a good marco photo hack iris scaner isnt that harder also. Conclusion, any security method can be hacked. Touch ID is by far, one of the hardest once out there.


Reminder: The phone dosent store a digital photo of your fingerprint that can be reproduced. The phone stores methematical algoritum which is just numbers. From that number you cant export a visual image of the fingerprint. This encripted number only serves for the Touch ID and nothing more. Stop the bulshit.
 
uberman15 said:
Occam's razor. Either the poster is moronic enough to think that DNA ID system to unlock your phone is realistically viable or he's being sarcastic.

And really, if he's that moronic, you really want to waste your time debating them?
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As anyone working in IT or even just Electronics Retail will tell you, most people are pretty ignorant about technology. That said, ignorance is NOT stupidity. It just means someone is not well versed in a particular thing.
 
The first thing to do when an iPhone 5s with Touch ID enabled believes his or her phone is lost?

1. Go to icloud.com or Find My iPhone app
2. Remote wipe iPhone
3. Not have to worry about anyone lifting his or her fingerprint to access the his or her phone
 
is it just me or is this not considered a hack??? A hack would be bypassing the fingerprint sensor without a fingerprint. Period. This not new. We can learn how to lift finger prints from watching Beverly Hills Cop 2. LMAO
 
Herry Wang said:
All Apple needs to do is just to add "wipe fingerprint data" function in Find My iPhone.
So you need 30 hours to replicate my fingerprint? Better pray the fingerprint data is still there for you to unlock.

Not that the "Wipe Data" function doesn't already cover this.

Which one is more frustrating for the thief, able to unlock and find the phone is already wiped, or spending 30 hours on a useless fake fingerprint that doesn't even work?
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The underlying system for Touch ID wasn't hacked and yet to be hacked..
 
Way too much work to be efficient. IF someone really needs to break into your iPhone, they will be able to do that, but for an normal user. No.

Just sayin'
 
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