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vish26

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Anyone who has the latest iPhone 6s with the second generation Touch ID and who has also recently bought the 9.7" iPad Pro with the first generation Touch ID can you compare I mean do it practically in reality, test it and tell how much difference is it in the time duration between unlocking the two device ?
 
I wouldn't say they are that different, but the Touch ID 2 is much more reliable with getting the scan right the first time. You do notice it when you are starting the iPhone 6S from rest just how quickly the Touch ID responds then.
 
Definitely faster and more accurate on the 6s. Don't really care on the iPad though as I only unlock comparatively infrequently compared to the iPhone which is often being unlocked as I pull it out of my pocket.
 
You see guys I am planning to but the 9.7" iPad Pro but am a little dissapointed that it does not have a Second Generation Touch Id. If I buy right now I am worried what if the next iteration has it, I don't buy gadgets every year so for me it is buying one time, but buying something which also covers technology for the coming few years. I know not having a second generation touch id should not matter much, but if your investment can cover you as much why not ? What do I do ? o_O
 
Anyone who has the latest iPhone 6s with the second generation Touch ID and who has also recently bought the 9.7" iPad Pro with the first generation Touch ID can you compare I mean do it practically in reality, test it and tell how much difference is it in the time duration between unlocking the two device ?

With iOS 10 it means the iPP 9.7 will not have the lift to wake feature.
 
To me the speed alone of the second gen touch ID would not be worth worrying about. I personally think it's almost too fast. I find that on my wife's iPhone 6s I can't even touch the home button without it unlocking the phone because it is so fast. On my 6+ I am able to hit the home button quickly to just check my notifications without unlocking the phone.

The area that the improvement may be worth it is that it seems to be a bit more sensitive and read fingerprints better. My fingerprints are pretty well pronounced so I have never had an issue with the old sensor on the 5s, 6+ or iPAd Air 2 working for me. My wife however has very smooth/dry hands and it seems like her 5s, iPad Air 2, and my 6+ have a very hard time recognizing her fingerprints. She has to try multiple times and usually just gave up and used the passcode instead. With her 6s Touch ID reads her fingerprint without issue and always works. So if you have devices with the older sensor and they don't work well for you then it may be worth waiting for the second gen Touch ID to be added to the iPad.
 
You see guys I am planning to but the 9.7" iPad Pro but am a little dissapointed that it does not have a Second Generation Touch Id. If I buy right now I am worried what if the next iteration has it, I don't buy gadgets every year so for me it is buying one time, but buying something which also covers technology for the coming few years. I know not having a second generation touch id should not matter much, but if your investment can cover you as much why not ? What do I do ? o_O

With rare exceptions, Apple updates are incremental and underwhelming. The iPad Pro was just released, so it's a great time to buy it.
 
With iOS 10 it means the iPP 9.7 will not have the lift to wake feature.
Do we know that for sure? Wouldn't that be more a gyroscope-based feature than a TouchID sensor feature?

But either way, the slightly slower sensor in my 12.9" iPad Pro is really an insignificant difference from the 2nd gen sensor in my iPhone 6S.
 
But either way, the slightly slower sensor in my 12.9" iPad Pro is really an insignificant difference from the 2nd gen sensor in my iPhone 6S.

Even I am in the same boat as the OP are you guys sure it really doesn't matter between the first generation Touch ID and the second generation Touch ID !
 
It's a matter of personal preference how much it matters. I really like how fast my iphone 6s responds to touch id, and it's a tiny bit annoying my iPads aren't as quick. On the other hand, it wouldn't be worth it to me to wait months and months without an iPad just because something better may be coming along later. Something better will always be coming along later.
 
Do we know that for sure? Wouldn't that be more a gyroscope-based feature than a TouchID sensor feature?

But either way, the slightly slower sensor in my 12.9" iPad Pro is really an insignificant difference from the 2nd gen sensor in my iPhone 6S.

I believe I saw somewhere, probably here, that the iPhone SE will have the raise to wake feature. I believe it is dependent on the M9 coprocessor or what not.


Just found this link: http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-10-raise-to-wake-feature-compatible-devices/

Looks like its not going to be an iPad feature regardless?
 
So the 2017 iPad Pro 9.7" may have it ?

I'd suppose it'll eventually get the newer sensor in the same way the camera tech historically has trickled down from phone to tablet a couple generations later (or sooner as has been the case with the 9.7 pro). As to when is anyone's guess.
 
Do we know that for sure? Wouldn't that be more a gyroscope-based feature than a TouchID sensor feature?

But either way, the slightly slower sensor in my 12.9" iPad Pro is really an insignificant difference from the 2nd gen sensor in my iPhone 6S.

I stand corrected. The original reports (speculation) was that the Gen 2 sensor was the common denominator in why Raise to Wake was available on the 6S line and not the iPad Pro line ... but then various reports noted the feature is supported in the 6SE too, which has a Gen 1 sensor.

So Raise to Wake only requires these two conditions:

1) An M9 coprocessor
2) Apple's support

It's #2 why the iPP doesn't have Raise to Wake -- at least not yet. Maybe it's a marketing thing, maybe they just haven't ironed out the kinks yet.

Agree the real use difference between gen 1 and get 2 is a nicety, but not significant.
 
So in short having a second generation touch Id or not should not be a point of consideration in buying any which ways ?
 
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