Right on, thanks for disabusing me...and it's certainly true that the US has been decidedly behind in the 3G department. I just remember coming to France for the first few times a number of years ago and finding people awed by my very ordinary cell phone (no longer, of course; I like the current arrangement here much better than in the states). Perhaps the delay here was due to the bizarre Minitel system that was common here until not that long ago? I don't really understand how it worked, but I hear it was universal, and that some older folks are a bit lost without it. Somebody should write a dissertation on Minitel and the way it affected communication development in France.
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iPod touch Touch Owners: You're Making Apple & AT&T Very, Very Angry.
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Right on, thanks for disabusing me...and it's certainly true that the US has been decidedly behind in the 3G department. I just remember coming to France for the first few times a number of years ago and finding people awed by my very ordinary cell phone (no longer, of course; I like the current arrangement here much better than in the states). Perhaps the delay here was due to the bizarre Minitel system that was common here until not that long ago? I don't really understand how it worked, but I hear it was universal, and that some older folks are a bit lost without it. Somebody should write a dissertation on Minitel and the way it affected communication development in France.
What about the fact that not everyone wants to pay a phone bill to have notes on their iPods like the OLD iPods. Why must Apple TAKE AWAY features from us just for a touch screen. Oh yeah, and there is no 16GB iPhone as of yet. So basically the iPhone is out of the question for me. People can't use their iPods as phones so I don't see where Apple or AT&T are hurting here. You get the iPhone if you want a phone, you get an iPod if you want an iPod... simple as that. I think the 'touch has the potential to be a really cool mini computer that you can keep in your pocket and Apple decided to cripple it without including stuff that should have been there from the beginning... also what the heck is up with Apple giving us 'touch users the iTunes music store and Youtube and then deciding that the iPhone needed those things to.... it seems like they are trying their hardest to please the iPhone people and they don't care about the iPod people... this annoys me. They give us features that the iPhone didn't have... so it's like... haha, iPhone users, you don't have iTMS and then Apple turns around and gives it to them anyway. I think Apple should share iPhone apps with us 'touch users for free because they felt the need to put the iPod stuff on the iPhone. Why does the iPhone get everything? The choice was simple for me... I wanted an iPod/PDA without paying for a phone.
So by your logic, if I have an iPod Touch and a cell phone carrier other than AT&T and a cell phone other than an iPhone, I should pay my carrier a $175 early termination fee and then buy a $400 iPhone and only run apps on said iPhone just so Apple and AT&T can stay all warm and fuzzy in their beds at night? You're nuckin futz.
P.S. If it's been hacked, it wasn't protected to begin with was it?
ps, I think there was a heap'n help'n of sarcasm in the OP's comments... could be wrong, but thats the way I read it
Nope, no copyright violation..... you can download the Applications officially from apple free of charge (a iPhone firmware update file) I did not copy anything, I just have installed it on a different device than it was intended for.
Good, I hope they lose sleep over this.
Well, there's goes all the Wii "Virtual Console" sales...
Well, there's goes all the Wii "Virtual Console" sales...
On the contrary, my good friend! I own an entire screen (12) of Virtual Console games on my Wii.
Personally I don't have any problem with the iPod Touch hacking that's going on, and I would hack my own Touch but I don't want to deal with Apple's inevitable response... especially when I consider that some of the itouch features (like Safari) aren't totally stable yet.
I think that Apple will really lock down security in the next update but try to offer some sort of carrot to the masses to make up for it. There's a rumor swirling around right now that Apple is planning on offering OSX style 'widgits' for the iphone and maybe the touch.
I think that Apple will really lock down security in the next update but try to offer some sort of carrot to the masses to make up for it. There's a rumor swirling around right now that Apple is planning on offering OSX style 'widgits' for the iphone and maybe the touch.
What response? This is no different than buying an iMac or a Mac Mini and installing Linux onto it or hacking the way it works. You paid for the device, it is your choice what to do with it.
rubbish. I think apple will be stoked. I bet Steve jobs is loving the iPod touch revolution.apple has a contractual obligation to protect cross carrier hacking - the touch on the other hand is apple's own thing. Daft as it may sound until the whole touch crowd started wanting to install apps apple probably really didn't suspect that users would really use It like this. At the end of the day you have to let consumers make the choice - phone or no phone - either way apple win. 12 months and 30 million touches from
now apple will be happy to see such a vibrant rich app culture. Really touch is the future of apple
now apple will be happy to see such a vibrant rich app culture. Really touch is the future of apple
So what happens when Apple comes out with an update that fixes some Touch problems, such as making Safari more stable, or adding support for Java or Flash?
If you do the update it will likely come with some much stronger security which may or may not be hackable.
So at the end of the day I don't want to become used to using a hacked iPod touch and then have it "broken" again when a much needed stability update or new features come from Apple for the device.
All good and valid points, and this is where it becomes the specific user's opinion. I don't mind using it the way it works now, jailbroken. The next release I simply won't update to until they've found a way to re-break that system (assuming they fix the TIFF exploit hole- which I am sure they will). But for me, this whole experience has been. Reminds me of being a kid and tinkering with my toys.
leaving the touch app blocked would be just a tragic waste of such an amazing piece of kit- it would be like selling a ten thousand dollar Ferrari and locking it in first gear.
I wish I could find a ten thousand dollar Ferrari
but not if it was factory locked in first gear right?
(actually it would still be totally cool but just ludicrously frustrating -ahem!)
Ewww, groooosssss!!! Install SummerBoard! Looks nicer with it!
And, oh yeah, that AT&T thing has fooled quite a quantity of people... with just today!
[Note: Yeah, there's a time and mod difference between one and the other. The second page is the most recent screenshot.]
I've said this before but in all likelihood people will simply move the features of the new updates to the old jailbreaked firmwares. The same thing has happened with the Sony PSP.
Also it's highly unlikely that Apple will ever add Flash or Java support.
Whoa, I thought you had an iPhone. We need a better "Services" icon, though, compared to the others on my iPhone, it's kinda weak...