TouchID/Passcode Lock.....Do you??

ARizz44

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I was searching for a thread asking this question but all I found were threads specific to issues and questions regarding setup and issues. I have never used a passcode on my phones, and I do not use touchID. I am just curious how much in the minority I am.

Years of muscle memory have me wanting to just swipe a notification on my lock screen and go directly into it, in its native app. Particularly text messages. With TouchID enabled on my 6S I either a) press my home button and it bypasses the lock screen all together and goes to the home screen or b) I access the lock screen and by instinct swipe the notification thus bringing up the passcode screen.

Yes, I know, minor issues and likely considered petty by most. But it's enough to keep me from using either. Any one else out there feel similarly or do most of you use some form of access protection? Thanks for sharing!
 

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I use TouchID/passcode because there is a lot of private information on my iPhone and iPad. I come from an IT background and I have seen too many situations where sensitive information was compromised because of the casual attitude about access to private information. Would you really like someone to have access to the texts or emails or other private information on your device if it were stolen?
 
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ARizz44

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I use TouchID/passcode because there is a lot of private information on my iPhone and iPad. I come from an IT background and I have seen too many situations where sensitive information was compromised because of the casual attitude about access to private information. Would you really like someone to have access to the texts or emails or other private information on your device if it were stolen?
No, I would absolutely not want anyone else to access what I have stored. I guess I am caught up in the ol "it'll never happen to me" cliche. Perhaps it is time I buck up and secure my phone. I just hate the added steps/change of behavior.
 

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No, I would absolutely not want anyone else to access what I have stored. I guess I am caught up in the ol "it'll never happen to me" cliche. Perhaps it is time I buck up and secure my phone. I just hate the added steps/change of behavior.
It's the same reason for backing up data regularly. If you prepare for the worst, then you won't sweat the "oh crap" moment.
 
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I went from the iPhone 5 to the 6+. Didn't use TouchID on the 6+. I now have the 6S+ and I don't use TouchID on that either. I use a 4-digit passcode. It's second nature and I prefer it. Plus, I don't run the risk - however small - of my prints being hacked or somehow retrieved from the phone either remotely or if it's stolen. I don't fancy being placed at a crime scene or being impersonated...
 

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I went from the iPhone 5 to the 6+. Didn't use TouchID on the 6+. I now have the 6S+ and I don't use TouchID on that either. I use a 4-digit passcode. It's second nature and I prefer it. Plus, I don't run the risk - however small - of my prints being hacked or somehow retrieved from the phone either remotely or if it's stolen. I don't fancy being placed at a crime scene or being impersonated...
TouchID does not store an image of the print. It is a digital conversion. Do you realize it is not the button, but the metal ring around the button that interprets the fingerprint? As for the phone being stolen, that's one of the uses for Find My iPhone. You can use it to erase an iPhone/iPad remotely, which includes the digital conversion of the fingerprint.
 

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I started using passcode when Touch ID came into existence. Probably should have been using passcode before then.
 

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I _never_ use Touch ID... haven't tried it, don't care to, doesn't matter.

Instead I use a passcode, that's good enough.

Carrying two smartphones, the one and only time my iPhone was stolen right off the table I was sitting at, I simply pulled out my MBA that's always in my bag and wiped the iPhone remotely.

All within just a minute or two of watching it run out the door. In a matter of 45 minutes I was standing in the AT&T store, picking up a replacement. Easy. Especially since I backup a minimum of once daily.
 

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I started using passcode when Touch ID came into existence. Probably should have been using passcode before then.
Some of my coworkers think I am paranoid about passwords, but I have been very protective about my personal information. For websites like this, I will use the same uncommon password, but if the site has sensitive or personal information, I use a unique password. That's also why I use a password manager, to keep track of them.
 

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Some of my coworkers think I am paranoid about passwords, but I have been very protective about my personal information. For websites like this, I will use the same uncommon password, but if the site has sensitive or personal information, I use a unique password. That's also why I use a password manager, to keep track of them.
Kind of strange I didn't have a passcode for awhile since I've been using LastPass for years.
 

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TouchID does not store an image of the print. It is a digital conversion. Do you realize it is not the button, but the metal ring around the button that interprets the fingerprint? As for the phone being stolen, that's one of the uses for Find My iPhone. You can use it to erase an iPhone/iPad remotely, which includes the digital conversion of the fingerprint.
Of course I realise it's the ring. However, as the software recognises my prints it therefore knows my prints. Nothing is safe as houses, especially not a mass-produced mobile phone.
 

Pspressart

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Kind of strange I didn't have a passcode for awhile since I've been using LastPass for years.
I use eWallet which syncs with the application on my PC and brings up another nice feature of TouchID. eWallet and some of my other data sensitive apps, like my credit card apps, also support using TouchID
 

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Of course I realise it's the ring. However, as the software recognises my prints it therefore knows my prints. Nothing is safe as houses, especially not a mass-produced mobile phone.
You are right. Nothing in this life is absolutely safe. Think about those people in Mississippi whose vehicles were swallowed by the giant sinkhole
 
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You are right. Nothing in this life is absolutely safe. Think about those people in Mississippi whose vehicles were swallowed by the giant sinkhole
Absolutely! Really though, I'm so used to tapping out my 4-digit PIN that TouchID would only save me a nanosecond or two when unlocking my phone. I can see that it's beneficial when purchasing apps and accessing compatible banking apps etc, but I'm happy doing things old skool. I don't use Apple Pay either, chiefly because I would feel a bit of a dork getting my cumbersome phone out when a simple debit card would suffice.:D
 

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Absolutely! Really though, I'm so used to tapping out my 4-digit PIN that TouchID would only save me a nanosecond or two when unlocking my phone. I can see that it's beneficial when purchasing apps and accessing compatible banking apps etc, but I'm happy doing things old skool. I don't use Apple Pay either, chiefly because I would feel a bit of a dork getting my cumbersome phone out when a simple debit card would suffice.:D
I am old school in many things, but I would prefer to use Apple Pay, if it is available. When you use Apple Pay for a transaction, it generates a unique transaction code that can only be used once. If it is intercepted or the store's database is hacked, they can't get my credit card information from that transaction code.
 

techspin

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Can't imagine not having TouchID. People can easily see what numbers you're typing in for your passcode.
 

sunking101

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Can't imagine not having TouchID. People can easily see what numbers you're typing in for your passcode.
It's really not that important. Why do you have people staring at your phone screen evey time you unlock it? Still, horses for courses. I don't need it and don't miss it. Some need it and couldn't cope without it. Beats me why but hey, I need 2GB of RAM and some don't.:D
 

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TouchID does not store an image of the print. It is a digital conversion. Do you realize it is not the button, but the metal ring around the button that interprets the fingerprint? As for the phone being stolen, that's one of the uses for Find My iPhone. You can use it to erase an iPhone/iPad remotely, which includes the digital conversion of the fingerprint.
actually, it's not the ring. it's the button inside the ring that is the touchid sensor.
 

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It's really not that important. Why do you have people staring at your phone screen evey time you unlock it? Still, horses for courses. I don't need it and don't miss it. Some need it and couldn't cope without it. Beats me why but hey, I need 2GB of RAM and some don't.:D
I have a complex password installed on my iPhone. 4 digit pin isn't really that secure. It would be a pain not to be able to use Touch ID in that case
 

sunking101

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I have a complex password installed on my iPhone. 4 digit pin isn't really that secure. It would be a pain not to be able to use Touch ID in that case
I don't really have a need for complex security, just something to prevent quick snooping. Plus repeatedly typing a long code would get tiresome.
 

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no it doesn't. i just used the tip of my finger to unlock my phone and it was no where near the ring.
You are correct. I was mistaken. But either way it is a digitally encrypted stored representation. It can't be reverse extracted or copied.Just think, if Apple is telling the NSA/FBI/police departments that they can't decrypt information on an iPhone, then they most likely are taking the security of the device seriously.
 

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You are correct. I was mistaken. But either way it is a digitally encrypted stored representation. It can't be reverse extracted or copied.Just think, if Apple is telling the NSA/FBI/police departments that they can't decrypt information on an iPhone, then they most likely are taking the security of the device seriously.
I'm pretty sure that Apple will give the security services any information they require, we're just told otherwise to make us feel better. As for things being secure, people can hack into FBI computers, NASA computers, White House computers....pretty much anything. To the right person, getting information off an iPhone would be child's play. We're just led to believe otherwise. Sure the prints are encrypted but someone would only have to know the encryption technique used by Apple, and I'm sure they could get there eventually even if they didn't have that information. We're talking about protecting someone's iPhone here, not protecting national security. No way will these things be impenetrable.
 
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