Toy Story 3 won't be made by Pixar

Dr. Dastardly said:
Is Disney SO dried up that they cannot come up with a single orginal idea of there own. I'm not upset about this or anything but come on, it seems that their last orginal idea was the The Emperor's New Groove back in 2000. :eek:

Heh, the only reason it was original was because the emperor was a llama.

llama ;) :cool:
 
Now with the breakup of Disney and Pixar, we will see what Disney can actually produce on tis own. Pixar will do just fine, they are the ones that did all the work on the movies. They are larger enough now to go it alone.
 
Dr. Dastardly said:
Is Disney SO dried up that they cannot come up with a single orginal idea of there own. I'm not upset about this or anything but come on, it seems that their last orginal idea was the The Emperor's New Groove back in 2000. :eek:


well if you think about it, pixar's ideas for movies are basically all the same. You have your list of characters, someone gets lost, and then everyone goes and finds them. dont get me wrong, i love pixar and their movies, but it just shows that no idea is original anymore. and even back when disney himself was making movies, most of those were not original ideas either.
 
xli_ne said:
agreed.. old news

here is some what of what the plot is going to be like for the peeps that would like to know

linkage

I followed that link, and there's this linkcoming off of that with info about future Disney movies. I noticed this one:

A second project, tentatively titled "A Day With Wilbur Robinson," based on the book by William Joyce, follows a time-traveling 12-year-old orphan who hooks up with a 13-year-old kid from the future in settings that recall 1930's "Metropolis" and the cartoon television series "The Jetsons." The project stars stylized young human protagonists and a mustachioed and bowler-capped villain.

Besides the fact this sounds like a classic "fish out of water" movies, I like how the writer for Yahoo tries to parallel Metropolis with The Jetsons. Come on! I question whether the author has ever seen Metropolis. The Jetson's was a children's cartoon about a future where the standard of living is quite luxurious, Metropolis is a dystopian silent film about the majority of the population being forced to run a city's infastructure for the oppressive weathly. :rolleyes:
 
The Lion King was never a classic and IMO is overrated, just take a look, who is watching it right now? It was a media event but it was actually taken from the japanese cartton Kimba I think. The Emperors Groove was funny and that is it. The Incredibles and Toy Story are very respetable than the Lion King.

Remember, you do not create a classic, people does.

Disney is about their products, not about a one man vision.

Remember Apple without Steve Jobs, well, when Steve Jobs dies Apple will be an empty name just as Disney is today without his creator.
 
Whether or not you are happy with Disney, (and by the looks of it, the majority of you are anti-Disney) IMO Disney made Pixar and Pixar breathed life back into Disney... They both need each other which is why I was so shocked they they split up. Disney will stay around much longer than Pixar will if the two don't kiss and make up because of the history of Disney and it's popularity. If you were to ask a group of people what they thought of Toy Story I would say that they would respond with a " It's a really good/bad Disney (not Pixar) movie." I would even go further and say if Pixar created a new animated movie without Disney, the majority of the viewers would think of it as a Disney movie and when Chicken Little comes out I would bet that the majority of the viewers will think its from Pixar. When I think Disney I think of Pixar and when I think of Pixar I think of Disney, but this is just one man's opinion.

P.S. After proofreading what I typed didn't make that great of sense but hopefully someone out there knows what I'm trying to say.

P.S.S. If that's the real script of the third installment of TS then that will be horrible... not so much the plot but more the fact that Tom Hanks and Tim Allen aren't coming back to voice Woody and Buzz.....oh well
 
mymemory said:
The Lion King was never a classic and IMO is overrated, just take a look, who is watching it right now?

Well, just to give you an idea:

5-year-old cousin
2-year-old baby (family friend's kid)
8-year-old girls (sister's friends, x5 [or so])

There are probably a lot more watching Lion King than, say, Home on the Range.

The way you can tell something is a classic is, when you go to Disney Land, they have poor sods-- I mean, employees dressed up as those characters. I have yet to see a giant cow at Disney Land, but I have seen Simba, Timone, Pumba, etc. at Disney Land.
 
xli_ne said:
agreed.. old news

here is some what of what the plot is going to be like for the peeps that would like to know

linkage


Ouch!

Disney will, of course, be making this sequel without Pixar and probably without the original voice cast - a winning formula if I ever heard one. The story will apparently follow Buzz Lightyear as he's recalled to Taiwan due to malfunction. When they hear of this, Woody and the rest of the toys in Andy's room haul ass to Taiwan to save Buzz. I guess they don't realize they kinda already did a "save somebody from foreign place" storyline but it's cool cause this one's gonna be great, right?

I was hoping they'd be a little more, um, original, but with this story line and not having the same voices......Disney will push it to the screen and get a decent amount of interest at first because of the legacy of the previous two and then it will shortly disappear only to be in the stores before the end of the season....

So sad - and I'm sure some people at Pixar are not going to be happy.

D
 
Dr. Dastardly said:
Is Disney SO dried up that they cannot come up with a single orginal idea of there own. I'm not upset about this or anything but come on, it seems that their last orginal idea was the The Emperor's New Groove back in 2000. :eek:

And actually, IIRC, The Emperor's New Groove was supposed to be some high-handed tale about a King (capital K), not a comedy. The director said 'f*** it' and decided to make a funny movie instead.
 
Come on... Disney did not MAKE Pixar... All they did was provide distribution. Pixar has companies DYING to distribute their films now and the 3D Disney castle will not be missed. We'll still have the familiar Luxo Jr. lamp bouncing across and squashing the I in PIXAR..

As far as TS3 is concerned, I believe all the surviving voice actors are legally committed to doing ANY TS sequels.

Disney is a storehouse for classic animation, a brand of toys and a theme-park. They lost their soul...
 
guess we will have to see if disney keeps the same look as pixar. I know disney has all the rights to the film, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had do something different with the animation, since they don't have pixar's skill :D
 
xli_ne said:
guess we will have to see if disney keeps the same look as pixar. I know disney has all the rights to the film, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had do something different with the animation, since they don't have pixar's skill :D

I would be surprised if 'technically' TS3 is not BETTER than TS1. 10 years is a looong time in terms of technology, and they did hire some good people.
but as others have mentioned, it's the stories that sealed pixar's success, not just the animation. the overall packages was great, but the scripts were truly superior.
 
Don't panic said:
I would be surprised if 'technically' TS3 is not BETTER than TS1. 10 years is a looong time in terms of technology, and they did hire some good people.
but as others have mentioned, it's the stories that sealed pixar's success, not just the animation. the overall packages was great, but the scripts were truly superior.

Its not just the technology, though, its the animators. But I think they'll have a decent look and feel - its hard not to these days when you have resources you could only dream of several years ago in terms of computer power.

The story so far doesn't sound too promising - reworking old ideas....

D
 
Pixar films have intentionally avoided the uncanny valley which has doomed other films, aka Polar Express and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
 
Lacero said:
Pixar films have intentionally avoided the uncanny valley which has doomed other films, aka Polar Express and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.


The Incredibles made fun of villains in general. That was funny... made it even better.
 
Mr. Anderson said:
Its not just the technology, though, its the animators. But I think they'll have a decent look and feel - its hard not to these days when you have resources you could only dream of several years ago in terms of computer power.

The story so far doesn't sound too promising - reworking old ideas....

D

And it's not just the animators either. Though the main characters will already have been designed, there's tons of other elements that give a picture a look and feel. The 60s design of The Incredibles was.... incredible!! Once you have that down, you have color and lighting, and NOBODY comes close to doing that as well as Pixar. Disney may very well pull a Windows job and try to copy the past and then present it as the future. I'm betting there's a LOT Disney animators won't GET about what Pixar does best...
 
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