Trade In early 2008 for new Nehalem?

[xgman]

Try this program on the 08 and negate alot of the difference:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/507454/

 

[TheStrudel]

Dude,dont get your panties all wedged up. It was all in jest,if you didnt understand?
I have tried to search for clear,plain performance charts on the gfx cards,but they seem to be harder to find than uncorrupt politicians.

And yes,i have checked out the bares test,and it tested only motion but failed to clear what and how they tested it.
Let alone shake,color or lightroom/aperture.


So,once again i´ll put a in here so you dont all revved up!

Different graphics cards are better at different things. The chart you're looking for doesn't exist. The Barefeats test is elaborated on more in an earlier post (that was a later post using their already-established tests). Nobody benches or reviews Shake any more, I haven't come across any Color literature, and photoshop is customarily used instead of RAW workflow software for benchmarking.

Also, your attempt at humor was fairly lousy. Not to say that humor can't be performed well with text, but smilies and sarcasm are no substitute for wit.

 

[Bokes]

"Intel's already taken care of the RAM bottleneck in Nehalem"

What about the early 08's? No advantage to extra RAM?

And it seems there is a disagreement to the graphic cards. GTX vs the 4870.
Is it fair to say both are faster than the 8800GeForce using Motion, After Effects, Photoshop, FCP?

 

[Macinposh]

Different graphics cards are better at different things. The chart you're looking for doesn't exist. The Barefeats test is elaborated on more in an earlier post (that was a later post using their already-established tests). Nobody benches or reviews Shake any more, I haven't come across any Color literature, and photoshop is customarily used instead of RAW workflow software for benchmarking.

Also, your attempt at humor was fairly lousy. Not to say that humor can't be performed well with text, but smilies and sarcasm are no substitute for wit.

Yes. Humor over internet and language barriers is challenging,glad you noticed it.

But we still get to the point that I was trying to convey in my earlier thread and theese posts : People allways shoot of the hip and say "get the XX gfx card,it is going to help you in the x,y and z programs. The most poplurar progs,the said color,shake and fcp are invariably mentioned.
Yet no one seems to be abel to present any or very little facts.
You dont find that odd?
I do.

"You never have too much ram", "get the XX card and your editing will be blazingly fast" , "repair the disk permissions".

 

[Keebler]

Even though I didn't start this thread, I'd like say thanks for all the discussions

I'm looking at th refurb site (cdn) and a nehalem was $3199 ($600 off) but last years 2.8 8-core is 2499 and a bit higher for other speeds obviuosly.

So I might get the 08 and putthe savings to some ram and hds

cheers
keebler

 

[TheStrudel]

People allways shoot of the hip and say "get the XX gfx card,it is going to help you in the x,y and z programs. The most poplurar progs,the said color,shake and fcp are invariably mentioned.
Yet no one seems to be abel to present any or very little facts.
You dont find that odd?
I do.

"You never have too much ram", "get the XX card and your editing will be blazingly fast" , "repair the disk permissions".

People say that on the forums, sure. But the articles with actual data give you a lot more to go on, plus the data with which to make your own conclusions.

As to what you list, Color and Motion are the newest pieces of  software and therefore most likely to have GPU-acceleration baked in. Barefeats has done benchmarking for Motion many, many times. Shake is now old and discontinued and hasn't been benchmarked for a long time. FCP has no GPU acceleration, or if there is it's negligible, so it is also not used to benchmark GPUs as much as CPUs.

Anandtech, Barefeats, Macworld and others all present benchmarks and explain how they got them with such facts as they have available. So no, I don't really see what you're describing.

The GTX 285 and Radeon 4870 should both be faster than the 8800 at most tasks. As far as we can tell, the 285 (and Nvidia cards in general) perform much better at games, while any tasks involving Core Image and other such frameworks tend to perform better on ATI cards due to better drivers. But drivers have been updated for the 285 twice already, resulting in speed increases. OpenCL is a new software framework and as such difficult to gauge at this juncture. That said, Nvidia's higher core count architecture seems to be giving it better scores on its cards at this time. But we really don't know yet, because there aren't Pro apps using OpenCL. Time will tell.

Bokes, the bottleneck I was referring to was not RAM count but the frontside bus (which constrained the CPU's access to memory), which is no longer present in Nehalem, so that bottleneck is no longer an issue. More RAM is always better if you run multiple apps at once, or hefty 64-bit apps that can actually use it.