TrendForce: Apple Overtook Samsung to Become World's Largest Smartphone Maker in Fourth Quarter

[69Mustang]

Oh boy, do you understand apple invented iPhone it's theirs to do with whatever they want.
Obviously you don't know what a monopoly is

You must have overlooked the /S in @Unregistered 4U comment. It was clearly a sarcastic joke, hence the /s.

 

[Peter K.]

Oh boy, do you understand apple invented iPhone it's theirs to do with whatever they want.
Obviously you don't know what a monopoly is

Did you miss the “/S”?

 

[Peter K.]

You must have overlooked the /S in @Unregistered 4U comment. It was clearly a sarcastic joke, hence the /s.

You beat me to it.

 

[subi257]

Other phone companies would have done better if they could sell the iPhone but they can’t because APPLE HAS A MONOPOLY ON THE IPHONE!

/S

 

[Alan Wynn]

That's really always been the case. A customer decides iOS or Android.

I mostly agree with you, but I think there is a small group that moves back and forth and those people look at specific phone and features. For them, something like Samsung’s stylus or high resolution camera might get them to buy.

If it's Android then the competition actually begins. Rivals exist at the budget, mid tier, and high end categories. Rarely is Samsung the cheapest option in any of those categories.

The do not usually compete on price at the high end, but try to compete on features (about a 50/50 mix of cool features some of which will be adopted by others and gimmicks or rushed, poorly implemented features that will often go away).

Apple's competition is Apple.

Often the case.

 

[69Mustang]

I mostly agree with you, but I think there is a small group that moves back and forth and those people look at specific phone and features. For them, something like Samsung’s stylus or high resolution camera might get them to buy.

The do not usually compete on price at the high end, but try to compete on features (about a 50/50 mix of cool features some of which will be adopted by others and gimmicks or rushed, poorly implemented features that will often go away).

Often the case.

I promise I'm not being argumentative, but what's the difference between my statement that a customer chooses iOS or Android and your "a small group moves back and forth"? Isn't that small group still choosing iOS or Android each time they go back and forth? If one of those people chooses Samsung because of a stylus or hi rez camera, haven't they already gone though the process of choosing the OS - Android and the manufacturer- Samsung in this example? Spec preferences occurs after the processes in my comment.

My comment is essentially a 50,000ft view of competition. Your comment is more of the 10,00ft view discussing more details. It's still the same at 50,000ft.

 

[_Spinn_]

Crazy that so many phones were sold during a pandemic.

 

[827538]

Market share by profit would be interesting. Most of Samsung’s sales are budget phones with razor thin margains.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Your use of "only" is a problem. It alters the context of my comment. I'm not implying only iPhone or only Android. Honestly, I'm not even sure what you mean with "only". There are essentially only two choices of phone OS. iOS or Android. The competition for Samsung begins when a customer decides to go with an Android handset. Who's Android handset are they going to choose? Oppo? LG? One Plus? Pixel? Sony? Vivo? Motorola? Xiaomi? Any of the many others. ← Those are Samsung's primary competitors. Those are the primary forces diminishing Samsung's overall smartphone marketshare as well as Android marketshare.

In case it wasn't clear, we're simply talking about making a hardware decision.

Context:

It has been postulated here that apple is not Samsung’s direct competitor, but other android manufacturers are. Seems like this is a truism.

You replied:

That's really always been the case.

I’m arguing against the notion that Apple is not a direct competitor of Samsung’s.

 

[BvizioN]

Well, since probably over 50% of comments in the MacRumors forums are from Samsung/Android fans

Spot on.

 

[Alan Wynn]

I promise I'm not being argumentative, but what's the difference between my statement that a customer chooses iOS or Android and your "a small group moves back and forth"?

My reading of your view is that they first make the iOS vs. Android choice and then pick a device. For the group I am discussing, they pick the device without caring about which OS it uses.

Isn't that small group still choosing iOS or Android each time they go back and forth?

Yes they are, but that choice is incidental to them. That is the difference.

If one of those people chooses Samsung because of a stylus or hi rez camera, haven't they already gone though the process of choosing the OS - Android and the manufacturer- Samsung in this example?

No. They see a new feature that interests them and that is the driving factor, not the OS.

Spec preferences occurs after the processes in my comment.

For most people that is true. For a fairly small group, that is not their process.

My comment is essentially a 50,000ft view of competition. Your comment is more of the 10,00ft view discussing more details. It's still the same at 50,000ft.

Nope. For the group in question the 50,000’ view is about one or two features and OS does not even come into play for them. They are truly agnostic.