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I'm not a big fan of Trillian, but I highly doubt Trillian caused any problems to your friends PCs. What could it possibly have done?
On a couple of systems it blew away a bunch of the registry settings for sound. On other sytsems, it's caused other corruption.

This all probably happened with older versions, however, it left a bad taste in the mouths of several people.
 
I used trillian 3.x for a while on my windows machine, and I'd been less than impressed with it at the time (resource hungry, pointless transparency effects etc.). Adium's lack of AV support is a drawback, but I'd still stick with it.

Still, it's good to see developers acknowledging the existence of the OS X market.
 
When I tried Trillian a long time ago it sucked tremendously. I realize it might be better now, but I can't say I'm the least interested. I got what I need in Adium, Skype and the newly released beta for the Korean NateOn IM-service.
 
I am loving Adium, and use the latest Mercury Messenger beta when I need video...I'm more concerned about a final Mercury1.9 than Trillian...as these are non-commercial apps, I doubt saturation of the market will spur on development...
 
Without video, Adium is just not usuable. How long can they just keep saying we are working on it?

Come on Trillian!
 
Without video, Adium is just not usuable. How long can they just keep saying we are working on it?

Are you trying to be a troll? The Adium team has clearly explained this issue. Adium is reliant on the GAIM/Pidgin/libpurple project for IM protocol functionality. It has always been a development project to build an OS X interface on top of that project. They have always been more than clear about this. They have never just said, "We are working on it."
 
I'll stick with adium, iChat and Skype as they do the job and do it well!
 
I really like using Adium but as far as I know it does not support off-line messages from MSN. I am using 1.1.3 which does incorporate the new Libpurple 2.2.1 release but still no off-line messages. Thus I am plagued with aMSN which is fickle and slow.

sigh.... one day.
 
IRC is not IM. Adium is an IM application. Supporting IRC brings all kinds of terrible UI issues to deal with, since Adium has been designed to do IM well.

What difference does it make to include it though?

UI issues? They're developers, UI issues should be a walk in the park. Too me, that screams stubbornness.
 
If it has default support for video-chat, Adium will be in trouble (at least I will be switching). It is super annoying to have a built-in iSight and not be able to use it (aside from iChat/AOL).

I'm sure someone will figure it out one day. :rolleyes:
 
I really don't care about Trillian these days, but it is great to see a popular Windows application being ported to OS X.
 
Considering none of the other IM's for mac (not including iChat, nobody in the UK has AIM) offer AV support, i'm surprised MS hasn't jumped the line and developed a version of messenger for the mac that supports video chat, would piss off apple to have everyone using a MS IM app
 
Considering none of the other IM's for mac (not including iChat, nobody in the UK has AIM) offer AV support, i'm surprised MS hasn't jumped the line and developed a version of messenger for the mac that supports video chat, would piss off apple to have everyone using a MS IM app

Mercury supports video on MSN :)

As does aMSN, but I prefer Mercury's latest beta...
 
Mercury supports video on MSN :)

As does aMSN, but I prefer Mercury's latest beta...

And they're both awful.

Ones written in java (!??!) and the other is written in TCL (WHY?!)

IMO Adium is the best third party client, but still, half of the 'features' don't work properly, custom emoticons is a complete joke, the support is next to none-existant and the file transfer feature might as well not be there.

There is no decent third party IM client for the mac, period. If Trillian can give me all the features of the Mac MSN client, do AV and be able to send/receive files at a decent speed then I'll be the first in line to buy it.

iChat is great, but for gods sake either release a windows port or add full support for MSN and Yahoo.

Speaking of Yahoo, their client is possibly the best IM client I've ever used on the mac. But still, I know no one that actually uses it.
 
Mercury supports video on MSN :)

What does "supports video" mean in the 1.9 release candidates? Does it still mean webcam only and "receive-only" AV or does bidirectional AV now work? It seems they now put their release summaries in their forum, and they don't allow you to access the forum unless you register. I'm not signing up for their forum just so I can see what their latest version does.... :rolleyes:
 
What difference does it make to include it though?

UI issues? They're developers, UI issues should be a walk in the park. Too me, that screams stubbornness.

When you're having to account for a completely different paradigm of communication, the UI issues are non-trivial to say the least.

Your argument makes zero sense. Developers generally suck at UI. Hence, Linux.
 
trilliwhat? it's all about iChat AV with Jabber Transports... and i'm sorry, Audium is just ugly...

Adium is ugly without skins...it can look just like iChat if you want, personally I have it like this on autohide on the right side of my desktop, it lays above all other windows when my mouse hovers there, and resizes depending on how many people are online :)

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