Trouble with panther on a Wallstreet

my startup disk panel looks nothing like that....

...im trying to upgrade to OS 9.2.2....hoping thats the difference.

however..as seen in the other thread...im having trouble aquiring stuffit...=P
 
Togglehead said:
my startup disk panel looks nothing like that....

...im trying to upgrade to OS 9.2.2....hoping thats the difference.

however..as seen in the other thread...im having trouble aquiring stuffit...=P

Here is a copy of the Startup Disk Control Panel that is specifically designed to work with the Sonnet G4 upgrade card, but which will work with any build of OS 9 (or OS 8 for that matter) on a WallStreet.

You will need to install Stuffit Expander though.

http://www.allume.com/mac/index.html

The free version is hiding somewhere on this site.
 
wow.......you are a life saver....however..the only stuffit installer i can find there is an .hqx....which i cant open either

The PRAM will be in tomorrow....ill let you know how the install goes....im sure by this point youre dying to see it work so i can quit buggin ya....=D
 
Ah yes, the old "instant water, just add water" problem :)

OK, what do you have on your Mac? Do you have any of the following MacOS 9 programs or utilities?

ResEdit
Script Editor
Snitch
Compact Pro
BinHex 4.0
America Online
ZipIt
UULite
FileType
File Manipulator

If you have any of these, I can get a means of un-BinHexxing the Stuffit program into your hands, and from there you can decompress & decode other things you need, like the Startup Disk Control Panel.
 
Nope. I have a fresh install of OS 9. Right after i freshly installed 9, i freshly installed 10.3.....then since the batt is out (which didnt arrive to day and im livid) i can never boot back to ten.....everytime i try, it hangs. However, im only trying through XPF, which i know is no good.

*slams head* As soon as i get this battery im starting over, can you maybe tell me how to do that? Should i just boot to OS9 CD, then delete contents of drive, then clean install?

Unless you have some other ideas/method....
 
Don't delete anything! Just stop!

Are you absolutely, positively sure that your fresh install of MacOS 9 did not include Script Editor?

(that would be unusual)
 
heh heh...ok...i may have gotten ahead of myself...lol

actually it appears as though i have three of them.

two in the System:Library:CoreServices: Classic Startup...blah blah folder
and one in the Apple Extras:Apple Script folder....
 
Excellent.

1) Control-click and download this file. It should land on your computer with filename "binhex4.0.bin". Please save it to your Desktop. This odd and ancient little app is executable under OS 9 if the right file type and file creator code are assigned to it. (Which they will most likely not be at this point).

2) Open Script Editor. (One version should open under OS 9 when you double-click it). Copy and past the following into the Script Editor window and then click the "Run" button:
Code:
set theNewNewFileType to ""
set theNewNewFileCrtr to ""

repeat with eachLetter in "APPL"
	set thenum to ASCII number of eachLetter
	set theNewNewFileType to theNewNewFileType & (ASCII character thenum) as string
end repeat
repeat with eachLetter in "BNHQ"
	set thenum to ASCII number of eachLetter
	set theNewNewFileCrtr to theNewNewFileCrtr & (ASCII character thenum) as string
end repeat

tell the application "Finder"
	set iFile to file "binhex4.0.bin"
	set file type of iFile to theNewNewFileType as string
	set creator type of iFile to theNewNewFileCrtr as string
end tell

3) If it works (and I just tried it out on a MacOS 8.6 machine), it should cause the file "binhex4.0.bin" to take on an icon that looks like some kind of hand-cranked contraption, kind of like a coffee grinder. If it throws errors, please copy them down verbatim and post those errors here.

4) If it does work, double-click binhex4.0.bin to launch it; you should get a rather plain splash screen that you have to click to dismiss (do so), then just a File menu, Edit menu and Help menu. Go to the File menu, select the command "Upload --> Application", and navigate to the downloaded copy of Stuffit Expander you got from the Allume.com website (the file ending in .hqx). Click the open button. You will be invited to choose a spot to save the decoded file, and it should provide a default filename (usually the same name as the 'hqx' file minus the 'hqx' but not always).

Result should be a functional copy of the Stuffit installer! And once you've got that installed, you can expand stuffit files and can install and use the Startup Disk Control Panel for which I posted a link a few posts above this. And with that, you should be able to switch back into OS X. (Reboot OS 9 once after every initial restart/date-reset until you get the new PRAM battery installed).
 
Ok, i'm reading this forum on a PC....are there any characters i cant see?

I typed that out verbatim, and received"

Syntax Error
"Expected end of line but found class name."
 
Togglehead said:
Ok, i'm reading this forum on a PC....are there any characters i cant see?

I typed that out verbatim, and received"

Syntax Error
"Expected end of line but found class name."


You did just copy the contents of the "code box" up above, right?

OK, copy it again, paste it into Script Editor, and this time click the button that says "compile". It will probably throw the same error, but it should highlight a specific word in the script to show exactly where it's having problems. Tell me what term it doesn't like.

Hmm...you say you're browsing this from a PC? How did you get the text into the Macintosh Script Editor?
 
there is no compile button. just record, stop, and run.

I printed it out...and i typed it into the box.....there could be something lost in translation....

I cant get the mac online right now either....as there are no open IPs at my office...nor does the WS have IE for OS 9 right now....only safari, and IE5 for OSX

i just hit TAB for the child lines right?
 
Togglehead said:
i just hit TAB for the child lines right?

Actually, don't bother putting any tabs in. When you go to run it, Script Editor will put the tabs in for you. (Maybe the tab character is what it doesn't like!)
 
ah ha.....ok will try....

I just got it back together again from the PRAM battery swap. OWC got it out to me quick, and the ifixit installation guide walked me through the process both ways in under an hour. I would say for the tech savvy, straightforward job requires some finesse. For the non tech savvy, have your tech savvy friend do it....=]

No more PMU reset everytime i plug the cord it....i have high hopes.....eventually....=P

Back to this. I got rid of the tabs...and now it gives me same error....but highlights the word... "number" from:
"repeat with eachLetter in "APPL"
set thenum to ASCII number of eachLetter"

EDIT: It seems my machine doesnt like the second stick of RAM i bought either.....It runs fin with the one stick in....but it hangs at boot with the other.....
 
UPDATE: After the PRAM installation, i attempted to boot into OSX using XPF...just for sake of arguments.....miraculously....it WORKED!!!

...sort of....

I immediately installed the other ram stick, and came to the conlusion in the other post....and now with it removed again.....i get the same hang on OSX boot.

Oh well.....anyway...you were saying? =]
 
STOOOOOOOOP!

So i managed to boot into OS X.....stuffit was there....so i unstuffed, updated, and now it looks like im good.

any suggestions on the RAM issue though?

Also, what do the different option in the Sonnet cache enabler mean? Do you know anything about this?
 
Congratulations! Do a backup! :)

Get your RAM from Crucial. OS X is incredibly picky about RAM.

This rod will take a 256 above and another below. The one on the underside of the processor daughtercard has to be "low profile" and those tend to cost more. The Crucial folk should be well-familiar with Mac models and will know which two chips to sell you.


Question: are you "purple"? Are the graphics under OS X all weird-colored, purple-toned, and leave an odd trail behind if you drag a window or an icon around on screen? It affects most WallStreets under Panther but not all of them. If you have Purple Panther Syndrome I will walk you through nuking the kext files that cause the problem. (If you aren't having the problem, you get to keep the kext files, which give you a bit of graphics acceleration).

Backups: the freebie solution is called Carbon Copy Cloner. I use Retrospect because I got it as a freebie with my backup drive. Ideally you want to back up to something you can boot from. A WallStreet can boot OS X from a second internal ATA 2.5" drive (by swapping them, putting the existing one in an external FireWire enclosure or an expansion-bay drive carrier); I'm pretty sure it can also boot from a SCSI drive (yep, WallStreets got SCSI built in :)).

As you can see, doing an OS reinstall isn't something you really want to contemplate on this model, not if it can be prevented. So for you 850% more than for the rest of the Mac-using world, do a freaking backup!
 
ahunter, i cant thank you enough. This is amazing....thanks!

No purple! All is well.....so far at least. The only video thing i noticed was at shutdown, it leaves the blue screen color up for a second or two, and it a little garbled....but then it goes off....and no big deal...=]

Well...oddly enough, i bough tboth of these ram sticks in the same place....macmemory.com i think it was...or maybe mac solutions....they were cheap. Both low profile, both approved for wallstreets....and the one on the bottom works great....but when i put the top one in, it borks. I mean, OS 9 wont even boot.....i dont think....

come to think of it, i think im just a little afraid of it.....i dont want it to screw my install....since youre syaing that its the OS that is RAM selective....i'll check out crucial...im familiar with their RAM from PCs....maybe i should return this stick.
 
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