True Tone

2020ric

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picked up the new Mini 5 and I see it has tru tone. Are people watching movies on iPads or Mac with True Tone or do you prefer it off. It makes it warmer and I assume it’s a a matter of preference. Just curious to see what people like

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kristalsoldier

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I also use it constantly on my IPP 10.5, regardless of what I am doing. It more soothing to my eyes. Of course, YMMV.
 

2020ric

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I’m going to try it for a week and see how I like it. I know on my tv I do not prefer the warm look, which is what most calibrations result in, but on the iPad I may like it. I’ll circle back to give my opinion.

Thanks guys.
 

dcpmark

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I hated it when I first powered up my Mini 5.....makes the screen yellow, and I’m just used to the cooler screen of the Mini 4. It also seems to require a higher Brightness setting than my Mini 4, which might affect battery life. But, when I switched off True Tone my eyes started hurting immediately, which makes me think that True Tone is indeed healthier for my eyes. So, I’m going to use it and see if I can adjust to it.
 
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EugW

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I leave True Tone on all the time on my iPad Pro 10.5.

Ironically, I don't use Night Shift on my iPad Pro (or on my iPhone). Problem with Night Shift is it doesn't dynamically adjust. True Tone does.
 

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I hated it when I first powered up my Mini 5.....makes the screen yellow, and I’m just used to the cooler screen of the Mini 4. It also seems to require a higher Brightness setting than my Mini 4, which might affect battery life. But, when I switched off True Tone my eyes started hurting immediately, which makes me think that True Tone is indeed healthier for my eyes. So, I’m going to use it and see if I can adjust to it.
It is most definitely better for your eyes. The cold blue screens besides being completely unnatural are also bad for your eyes.
 

Ladybug

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I've always hated true tone because it makes the screen more yellow. You convinced me to test it out again, let’s see if I can last an hour this time.
 
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dcpmark

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I've always hated true tone because it makes the screen more yellow. You convinced me to test it out again, let’s see if I can last an hour this time.
I’m on Day 3, and while it’s still a little off-putting, I’m getting used to it and will definitely keep it on. I use my Mini for HOURS every day, and I have to be nicer to my eyes. :)
 

tps3443

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I always leave True Tone off. It really messes the color accuracy up and I do not need it anymore. The only thing good about True Tone, is that during extended working sessions on the iPad your eyes will not be as blood shot the next morning. Sometimes I’ll be using software for around 4 hours editing something, or playing a video game. My iPad is my only computer now So it can really hammer your eyes. Although, after a month your eyes adjust to the display and with true tone off, my eyes no longer get red, or strained.

I always leave it off.
 

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Hold a white sheet of paper next to your phone displaying a white screen, move around in different lighting conditions and toggle True tone on and off. This is what convinced me to leave it on all the time.
 
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dcpmark

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Hold a white sheet of paper next to your phone displaying a white screen, move around in different lighting conditions and toggle True tone on and off. This is what convinced me to leave it on all the time.
Sounds like a lot of work.....reminds me of people that download special screens and then sit in dark closets to pore over their displays to find imperfections. ;)
 

EugW

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Just curious but why does everyone want True Tone on? It ruins the color accuracy.
It looks better overall for regular use, and I'm not doing critical colour correction on my iPad when I surf the net or watch a Netflix video.
 

EugW

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Put it this way:

Right now after 9 pm, I have my iMac in front of me without True Tone, and my iPad Pro beside it with True Tone, and I have a halogen lamp illuminating the desk. While the iPad is clearly warmer toned right now than the iMac, it’s actually much closer to the sheets of white paper I have sitting on the desk. In comparison, the iMac looks very blue.

During the day with bright sunlight, the iMac would be close, but right now it is not.

I don’t use Night Shift though, since there is no sensing of the ambient light so it doesn’t work as well as True Tone.
 

ElectronGuru

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I've always hated true tone because it makes the screen more yellow. You convinced me to test it out again, let’s see if I can last an hour this time.
Just curious but why does everyone want True Tone on?
Apples giving you the tools but not the context to understand the tools. This is about sleep hygiene.

Imagine drinking a half cup of coffee every hour between sunset and bedtime. The caffeine would keep you alert, cause you to fall asleep later, and make that sleep less restful. Melatonin is reverse caffeine, lack of it keeps you awake.

Your body relies on the sun going down to produce melatonin to put you to sleep. Exposing yourself to daylight colors (screens without night shift or flux) after dark, retards melatonin production, tricking the brain into thinking it’s still day, producing daytime energy at night. It’s invigorating but done often is also expensive to your health.

The problem with true tone is it’s all or nothing. Beginners (people exposed to day colors after dark for years) see a sudden yellow and turn it back. Eyes are organic and need time to adjust. Leave TT off and start with night shift. It has a slider so you can start with just a little and increase over time. Turn NS on and start with the least yellow option and increase only one notch every week or two.

Over time your eyes will accept warmer colors and over time it will feel more neutral/natural and over time blue after dark will feel awkward. Provided the rest of your lighting is also warmer. If there are 10 light sources between your sofa and pillows and only one is yellow, your eyes will take the average and it won’t work. So for the test period, turn off most non warm lighting.

In a hurry, here’s a faster test: buy a bottle of liquid melatonin. Put 5-10 drops under your tongue as you’re going to bed. If you are melatonin deprived, sleep should begin much faster and go deeper than you are used to.
 
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