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Trump Administration Subpoenaed Apple for Data on Two House Intelligence Committee Democrats

eatrains said:
Guns and ammunition were found in and around the Capitol, notably on Cleveland Grover Meredith, Lonnie Coffman, and Christopher Alberts, and of course the crowd wasn't thoroughly searched. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/ https://www.politifact.com/factchec...jan-6-capitol-assault-was-armed-insurrection/


People waving giant Trump flags while storming the Capitol in his name aren't his core supporters? Please.
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Meredith was not at the protest, but was found heading to Washington after January 6. Coffman had jars of flammable liquid in his car (like a common Antifa) which was found parked many blocks from the protest. The only one found with a gun at the protest was Alberts, who was carrying what appeared to be a .380 pocket handgun (quite an arsenal to complete a coup with). He did not use the gun or brandish it. In fact, the only person who brandished or used a gun that day was a coward who shot and killed an unarmed female protestor in cold blood.

All of these nitwits (except for the one killer) were rightfully arrested and charged, but again, this was not an "armed protest", "insurrection", or "coup".
 
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DanTSX said:
I did. What was Mueller's recommendation to congress (who could prosecute) again?

Are we talking about the same meetings? The ones as President Elect, where meeting with foreign officials is normal and expected? The meetings with "Russians" before the election with were clear opposition set-ups (one of many).

On their face value, meetings for dialogue with Russia are not a bad thing.

No question he did/said things that were monumentally stupid during the first campaign. References to Mexican citizens and others were dreadful. But we really need to bring in Hillary's dreadful prior comments if we are going to go down that rabbit hole. I'd rather not, but her Super Predator comments are imprinted in my mind, just as Trump's are in yours.
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He kicked the can to Congress to do impeachment because he said DOJ's position is you can't prosecute a sitting POTUS.

The meetings with Russians i'm talking about were prior to the election and they were to dig up dirt on Hillary. He also publicly asked them to commit a crime by asking them to "find her emails". You aren't being truthful if you say meetings with a foreign adversary by a non-govt official for the sole purpose of having them interfere with an election are anything but a "bad thing".
 
quatermass said:
Of course, no other President could or would have accelerated the process. Trump has Special Powers, obviously. So special, that the three Casinos he owned all went bankrupt. Casinos... where you literally take money off people for nothing in return. Just because he's Trump, doesn't mean he must always win - see recent Presidential Election for details.
NB: Yes, he did lose. By the same margin that he won his single term - which he claimed was a landslide.
At what point does the tsunami of filth that emanates from him become intolerable and inexcusable? What exactly would he have to do to change you mind that he's not the person you think he is?
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Lol what a cope. You’re moving more than goalposts. You’re moving the stadium.
 
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eatrains said:
Guns and ammunition were found in and around the Capitol, notably on Cleveland Grover Meredith, Lonnie Coffman, and Christopher Alberts, and of course the crowd wasn't thoroughly searched. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/ https://www.politifact.com/factchec...jan-6-capitol-assault-was-armed-insurrection/


People waving giant Trump flags while storming the Capitol in his name aren't his core supporters? Please.
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No. They are fringe. It was a mostly peaceful protest. Except for the wignuts and LARPing lefties posing as Trump supporters. But here you are associating me, who is attempting to be rational with you, with them.
 
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TiggrToo said:
One man, Lonnie Coffman, is facing multiple weapons charges after police say they found him in possession of five guns, eleven Molotov cocktails, a crossbow, smoke bombs and a stun gun.

Coffman was arrested only because police were investigating pipe bombs that were discovered near the Capitol at the Republican Party and Democratic Party headquarters and noticed one of the guns in his truck while securing the area.

Authorities have said they don't believe Coffman was behind the pipe bombs and have yet to identify a suspect.

In charging documents filed with the federal district court in D.C., police said they searched Coffman’s truck while sweeping the areas around the pipe bombs, finding the weapons along with hundreds of rounds of ammunition and a list of public officials and journalists that identified them as “good guys” and “bad guys.”

“In the end, this is a defendant with access to firearms and numerous other lethal weapons, dangerous incendiary mixtures creating napalm, who appears to have been motivated to conduct violence against our elected representatives,” prosecutors wrote in a court filing.

“The defendant brought these weapons to the immediate vicinity of the U.S. Capitol Building, and traveled to the area with two firearms on his person. The amount of weapons suggests an intent to provide them to others, as no one person could reasonably use so many at once,” they added.

thehill.com

Police seized alarming number of weapons on Capitol rioters, court documents show

Police have seized an alarming number of guns from President Trump’s supporters who descended on Washington, D.C., last week and stormed the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress’s…
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One guy makes this an armed coup?

Different standards for different ideologies….armed individuals were busted in Lafayette square committing arson, as well as all over DC (and cities all summer).
 
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DanTSX said:
I’m gonna leave this thread since the non-stop off-topic accusations about Trump have nothing to do with Schiff’s leaks, or his responsibility in vetting staffers. It seems people would rather distract away from the original topic with inane accusations. It’s just people repeating (often disproven) editorialized headlines from years ago. Manufactured outrage like when trump got two scoops of ice cream, and everyone else got one.
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I know.....it's hard defending the indefensible trump.
DanTSX said:
No. They are fringe. It was a mostly peaceful protest. Except for the wignuts and LARPing lefties posing as Trump supporters. But here you are associating me, who is attempting to be rational with you, with them.
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Welcome back...

peaceful protest? people died. lawmakers feared for lives, capitol was stormed. Yet...you call this peaceful. I am amused at the logic gymnastics you do to downplay it.

what is with you all defending trying to overthrow the government? Leftist were the cause of it? waving trump flags and Qanon. Quite the imagination. Surely, it couldn't be Trump supporters. Supporters who moments before were told by trump to march on the capitol

Occam's razor my friend. Stop with the "conspiracies" and own up to the fact your party is perfectly ok overthrowing an election and government if they could get away with it. You see this with the DOJ news coming out, you see this with how the GOP is passing laws now to give them the ability to toss election outcomes they don't like and the continual ass kissing to trump still by the GOP

If you still support Trump after all that has happened, yes, I will indeed associate you with "them"
 
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DanTSX said:
One guy makes this an armed coup?

Different standards for different ideologies….armed individuals were busted in Lafayette square committing arson, as well as all over DC (and cities all summer).
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Quit deflecting.

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I provided exactly what you requested. Do you deny I fulfilled your ask?

This gentleman was a capital protestor who was "armed with firearms".

You asked, I answered. Respond accordingly.
 
jjudson said:
Meredith was not at the protest, but was found heading to Washington after January 6. Coffman had jars of flammable liquid in his car (like a common Antifa) which was found parked many blocks from the protest. The only one found with a gun at the protest was Alberts, who was carrying what appeared to be a .380 pocket handgun (quite an arsenal to complete a coup with). He did not use the gun or brandish it. In fact, the only person who brandished or used a gun that day was a coward who shot and killed an unarmed female protestor in cold blood.

All of these nitwits (except for the one killer) were rightfully arrested and charged, but again, this was not an "armed protest", "insurrection", or "coup".
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Do you not consider the underwear bomber to be a terrorist just because he failed?
 
Not surprising. gradual erosion of civil liberties since 911. Sucks to be American. Glad I’m not, but very glad that USA is our next door neighbor and still wonder what the world would be like w/o the US (like the US with Trump).

Very glad that this has come to light, and surely with a Democratic President, House and Senate the government should be able to get to the bottom of this, assign guilt and properly punish?

Tom
 
dukebound85 said:
I know.....it's hard defending the indefensible trump.

Welcome back...

peaceful protest?

what is with you all defending trying to overthrow the government? Leftist were the cause of it? waving trump flags and Qanon. Quite the imagination. Surely, it couldn't be Trump supporters

Occam's razor my friend. Stop with the "conspiracies" and own up to the fact your party is perfectly ok overthrowing an election and government if they could get away with it. You see this with the DOJ news coming out, you see this with how the GOP is passing laws now to give them the ability to toss election outcomes they don't like and the continual ass kissing to trip still by the GOP

If you still support Trump after all that has happened, yes, I will indeed associate you with "them"
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ahhhh the tolerant left!

Thanks! Thread was moved to appropriate sub forum.

They were as peaceful as the riots over the summer. Which is to say, they were anything but peaceful. All summer we watched the rule of law on overthrown with police stationed being overrun and burned. A few old farts (plus some feds and larping lefties ) storm the capitol, mess up some desks, and I’m supposed to share in their guilt due to voting for Trump?

What laws is the GOP passing? DNC has majority in Congress.
 
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TiggrToo said:
Quit deflecting.

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I provided exactly what you requested. Do you deny I fulfilled your ask?

This gentleman was a capital protestor who was "armed with firearms".

You asked, I answered. Respond accordingly.
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There were no firearms involved at the capitol.

Someone posted a misleading picture of armed protestors at an entirely different event in another state.

The same cannot be said about the DC riots.
 
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Thomas Davie said:
Not surprising. gradual erosion of civil liberties since 911. Sucks to be American. Glad I’m not, but very glad that USA is our next door neighbor and still wonder what the world would be like w/o the US (like the US with Trump).

Very glad that this has come to light, and surely with a Democratic President, House and Senate the government should be able to get to the bottom of this, assign guilt and properly punish?

Tom
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Typical Canadian chip on shoulder response.
 
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DanTSX said:
ahhhh the tolerant left!

Thanks! Thread was moved to appropriate sub forum.

They were as peaceful as the riots over the summer. Which is to say, they were anything but peaceful. All summer we watched the rule of law on overthrown with police stationed being overrun and burned. A few old farts (plus some feds and larping lefties ) storm the capitol, mess up some desks, and I’m supposed to share in their guilt due to voting for Trump?

What laws is the GOP passing? DNC has majority in Congress.
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Being, I assume, a GOP/trump supporter who values local control* , you do realize the GOP is passing laws not at the federal level right?

didn't think I would have to explain this, yet here I am.

Those protests....surely it wasn't Trump sending in his defacto "domestic military" (USBP) that won't id themselves to kidnap people off the street and engaging, igniting the violence. Surely, can't be that.

However, keep pointing to those protests, which can be argued were violent because of trump. Who care that 1/6 was about OVERTHROWING the government while they were certifying the election vs protests in response to civil rights injustices. Yup. very comparable in intent:rolleyes:

Keep up with the whataboutism and false equivalence. It's what you guys try to do to justify extreme actions. I'd expect nothing less

Ready for your next deflection as you can't argue the merits of any points being brought up.

*when if fits your purposes
 
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DanTSX said:
No. They are fringe. It was a mostly peaceful protest. Except for the wignuts and LARPing lefties posing as Trump supporters. But here you are associating me, who is attempting to be rational with you, with them.
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Put up or shut up. Any actual evidence of actual "LARPing lefties posing as Trump supporters" in that crowd?
 
DanTSX said:
www.wfmz.com

Self-described left-wing activist charged in Capitol riot

John Earle Sullivan is the 26-year-old founder of Utah-based Insurgence USA.
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Interesting. I didn't come across any, and I wasn't sure there was any example of this. It appears there's at least one. There have been a few hundred arrests in this, so I would have anticipated finding more if a number of them subscribed to liberal ideologies.
 
DanTSX said:
There were no firearms involved at the capitol.

Someone posted a misleading picture of armed protestors at an entirely different event in another state.

The same cannot be said about the DC riots.
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The gentleman in question was an armed protestor. Be honorable and admit I fulfilled your ask.
 
DanTSX said:
Who?

Goalposts moved
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The guy who tried to blow up a plane but failed to do so. Do you not consider him to be a terrorists just because he failed, just like you consider the Trump mob to not be terrorists just because they failed?
 
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