iPhone Trying to downgrade to ios 6 because I can't update to new itunes

[CheekyMac]

So because I can't update itunes my phone doesn't show up, which is why I want to downgrade. (because of the operating system needs to be updated as well for itunes) I have downloaded 6.1.3 but I can't select restore in itunes when the phone doesn't show up. So I thought maybe if I erased my phone it would go to factory but it went straight back to OS7 and I updated my personal stuff from icloud.

I have an iphone 4

Err

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks,
Lindsay

 

[darricksailo]

So because I can't update itunes my phone doesn't show up, which is why I want to downgrade. (because of the operating system needs to be updated as well for itunes) I have downloaded 6.1.3 but I can't select restore in itunes when the phone doesn't show up. So I thought maybe if I erased my phone it would go to factory but it went straight back to OS7 and I updated my personal stuff from icloud.

I have an iphone 4

Err

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks,
Lindsay

What's your computer's OS? What version is your iTunes?

Were you jailbroken in 6.1.3? Use iFaith and check if you have complete SHSH blobs. If you don't, then you're stuck on iOS 7

 

[TriJetHero]

Apple stopped signing 6.1.3 2 days ago, only IOS 7 is available unless you have shsh/blobs for 6.1.3, then you can downgrade, those are needed to downgrade to a none-signed firmware.

 

[CheekyMac]

Apple stopped signing 6.1.3 2 days ago, only IOS 7 is available unless you have shsh/blobs for 6.1.3, then you can downgrade, those are needed to downgrade to a none-signed firmware.

What is shsh/blobs?

I downloaded ios 6.1.3

 

[BumpyFlatline]

What is shsh/blobs?

I downloaded ios 6.1.3

Did you ever jailbreak your device on 6.1.3?

 

[CheekyMac]

Did you ever jailbreak your device on 6.1.3?

no

 

[TriJetHero]

Trying to downgrade to ios 6 because I can't update to new itunes

no

Then you are stuck on iOS7 .

Upgrade your OS and itunes to get access again

 

[CheekyMac]

Then you are stuck on iOS7 .

Upgrade your OS and itunes to get access again

I don't think or not sure if I can upgrade my OS on this computer anymore. (and don't have access to a newer OS right now)

I have a old blue tower that I have updated:

1.25 GHz PowerPC G4
1MB L3 cache
2GB Ram

 

[eyoungren]

Lindsay, essentially what's going on here is this.

Anytime Apple releases a version of iOS it signs that version. Without getting complicated, all it means is that that version is the only one that Apple considers to be valid. iTunes and over the air updates for normal non-jailbroken iDevices can only restore or upgrade to a version of iOS that Apple is currently signing (valid).

When Apple releases a new version of iOS it sometimes gives a small window where it will keep signing both the old version and the new, making both of them valid at the same time. But inevitably, Apple will stop signing the old version making it invalid and thus you can only update or restore to the current (valid) version of iOS.

With a jailbroken device there are a number of ways to roll back, a lot of them involving software and procedures you are probably not familiar with. But your device would have had to have been jailbroken to take advantage of that. Since it's not, you're stuck where you are as TriJetHero said.

In versions of iOS before iOS 6, rolling back was more or less non-complicated. But Apple changed things with iOS 6 that affect the iPhone 4s and up quite differently now. So, now it's even harder for those who are jailbroken to roll back if they have an iPhone 5 or 4s.

I hope that gives you some idea of why you are being told you can't.

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I don't think or not sure if I can upgrade my OS on this computer anymore. (and don't have access to a newer OS right now)

I have a old blue tower that I have updated:

1.25 GHz PowerPC G4
1MB L3 cache
2GB Ram

That's not going to work. iOS 7 syncing requires iTunes 11.1. The max that any PowerMac can use is iTunes 10.6.3.

You are in a rock and a hard place. You'll need either to find a crappy PC that can run iTunes 11 or buy an Intel Mac.

 

[TriJetHero]

Buy a newer computer or secondhand phone on 6.x

 

[CheekyMac]

Lindsay, essentially what's going on here is this.

Anytime Apple releases a version of iOS it signs that version. Without getting complicated, all it means is that that version is the only one that Apple considers to be valid. iTunes and over the air updates for normal non-jailbroken iDevices can only restore or upgrade to a version of iOS that Apple is currently signing (valid).

When Apple releases a new version of iOS it sometimes gives a small window where it will keep signing both the old version and the new, making both of them valid at the same time. But inevitably, Apple will stop signing the old version making it invalid and thus you can only update or restore to the current (valid) version of iOS.

With a jailbroken device there are a number of ways to roll back, a lot of them involving software and procedures you are probably not familiar with. But your device would have had to have been jailbroken to take advantage of that. Since it's not, you're stuck where you are as TriJetHero said.

In versions of iOS before iOS 6, rolling back was more or less non-complicated. But Apple changed things with iOS 6 that affect the iPhone 4s and up quite differently now. So, now it's even harder for those who are jailbroken to roll back if they have an iPhone 5 or 4s.

I hope that gives you some idea of why you are being told you can't.

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That's not going to work. iOS 7 syncing requires iTunes 11.1. The max that any PowerMac can use is iTunes 10.6.3.

You are in a rock and a hard place. You'll need either to find a crappy PC that can run iTunes 11 or buy an Intel Mac.

Thank you for giving more info. I had been looking up how to do this since I updated Friday I think it was since I haven't done this before and I did read today that apple stopped stop signing the old versions before I figured it out. but I thought since I downloaded it I was ok.

But I also had the OS and itunes issue.

If I am able to update to itunes 11 on a friend's computer would I be able to downgrade with the download or no cause of apple stopinng signing the old version?

 

[BumpyFlatline]

If I am able to update to itunes 11 on a friend's computer would I be able to downgrade with the download or no cause of apple stopinng signing the old version?

See post #7

 

[eyoungren]

Thank you for giving more info. I had been looking up how to do this since I updated Friday I think it was since I haven't done this before and I did read today that apple stopped stop signing the old versions before I figured it out. but I thought since I downloaded it I was ok.

But I also had the OS and itunes issue.

If I am able to update to itunes 11 on a friend's computer would I be able to downgrade with the download or no cause of apple stopinng signing the old version?

You have an iPhone 4 right? Without saved blobs I don't think you can do this, even if you get use of a computer that has iTunes 11. TriJetHero and the others will know much more. I've actually never done this myself (haven't needed to) so while familiar with the overall concept I don't have any practical experience.

 

[TriJetHero]

You have an iPhone 4 right? Without saved blobs I don't think you can do this, even if you get use of a computer that has iTunes 11. TriJetHero and the others will know much more. I've actually never done this myself (haven't needed to) so while familiar with the overall concept I don't have any practical experience.

No blobs mean no downgrade unfortunately.

 

[eyoungren]

No blobs mean no downgrade unfortunately.

Yeah, that's what I thought. You guys know way more than I do about all of this though so I didn't want to sound definitive about it and end up looking like an idiot.

Quite capable and adept of making myself look like a fool in a bunch of other ways.

 

[TriJetHero]

Yeah, that's what I thought. You guys know way more than I do about all of this though so I didn't want to sound definitive about it and end up looking like an idiot.

Quite capable and adept of making myself look like a fool in a bunch of other ways.

We all do that once in a while...

 

[CheekyMac]

You have an iPhone 4 right? Without saved blobs I don't think you can do this, even if you get use of a computer that has iTunes 11. TriJetHero and the others will know much more. I've actually never done this myself (haven't needed to) so while familiar with the overall concept I don't have any practical experience.

Thanks

 

[CheekyMac]

Not quite related but since I am stuck and I can't edit with iTunes I have noticed with iOS 7 you can't swipe and delete songs. Is this true?

I see songs on there that I know were deleted not only from the phone by from itunes. But I can't swipe delete.

 

[Tyler23]

Not quite related but since I am stuck and I can't edit with iTunes I have noticed with iOS 7 you can't swipe and delete songs. Is this true?

I see songs on there that I know were deleted not only from the phone by from itunes. But I can't swipe delete.

Swipe to the left? (so swipe right-->left).

 

[CheekyMac]

Swipe to the left? (so swipe right-->left).

I realize because they aren't under songs only under artists, artists that have been there in the past but deleted and I can't delete them now. I can delete songs in under songs.