TSMC Expected to Begin Volume Production of 5nm-Based A14 Chips in April Ahead of iPhone 12 Models

[cmaier]

You’re absolutely right. Hey, why not 20 like Samsung did? Since the last decade of iPhone naming doesn’t help us at all for reference, sure.

The only time Apple skipped the S was with the iPhone 8. (I’m not talking about the 5C, the SE or other special or odd iPhones, I’m talking about the main phones.)

But you knew all this before posting, thus my comment. If you are reading Macrumors is very likely you know by now Apple naming conventions. And I know, I know, they are not the most logical guys around (iPhone Xr? One letter is a roman numeral but the other one isn’t?) but they are somewhat predictable with certain things.

And that’s why I asked who started this iPhone 12 name thing. Someone, Kuo, MacRumors, 9to5 or else, coined this iPhone 12 name when the most logical name would be iPhone 11S, since the current one is the 11. I just want to know the source of the 12 name, maybe there was a report saying that this is the name, and I missed it. I don’t want to argue with you. I just want to know where the iPhone 12 name originated.

The pattern hasn’t really held up AT ALL lately. Why are being so argumentative about it? It’s been 7, 8 and X, XS, 11. That hardly makes for a recent pattern. In fact there have only been 5 times where the pattern was non-S to S, and 3 times when it has gone non-S to non-S. So, what is it about this transition that makes you think that ”S” makes sense?

 

[simonmet]

And yet Intel struggled to get to 10 nm.

 

[notengoojotas]

The pattern hasn’t really held up AT ALL lately. Why are being so argumentative about it? It’s been 7, 8 and X, XS, 11. That hardly makes for a recent pattern. In fact there have only been 5 times where the pattern was non-S to S, and 3 times when it has gone non-S to non-S. So, what is it about this transition that makes you think that ”S” makes sense?

The iPhone 8 and iPhone X where introduced the same day. One was the same design as previous iPhones, the other, a new design, all screen, FaceID, all that. Since Apple decided to make that separation and jump the new design to X to mark something big or different or special, there was a big gap between 7S, which really would have been the logical name for the 8, and X. So they jump to 8 to make that gap shorter, even though that iPhone wasn’t such a big leap from the 7. (And iPhone 9 was skipped, maybe they’ll use it for the new SE, since it’s rumored to have the same design as the 7 and 8, so it would be and extension of that design.)

Then there’s the iPhone XS. If they weren’t doing the S year any more why not call that one 11? And by the way, that was just two years ago, so the pattern is more likely to be kept than broken.

But again, this is not the thing I want to discuss. Let me ask again in another way: Does anyone actually know (Gurman or a source or Kuo or someone) that the next iPhone will be called 12 or someone making a headline in a rumor site just decided to call it that and everyone is going along with it?

 

[0924487]

The iPhone 8 and iPhone X where introduced the same day. One was the same design as previous iPhones, the other, a new design, all screen, FaceID, all that. Since Apple decided to make that separation and jump the new design to X to mark something big or different or special, there was a big gap between 7S, which really would have been the logical name for the 8, and X. So they jump to 8 to make that gap shorter, even though that iPhone wasn’t such a big leap from the 7. (And iPhone 9 was skipped, maybe they’ll use it for the new SE, since it’s rumored to have the same design as the 7 and 8, so it would be and extension of that design.)

Then there’s the iPhone XS. If they weren’t doing the S year any more why not call that one 11? And by the way, that was just two years ago, so the pattern is more likely to be kept than broken.

But again, this is not the thing I want to discuss. Let me ask again in another way: Does anyone actually know (Gurman or a source or Kuo or someone) that the next iPhone will be called 12 or someone making a headline in a rumor site just decided to call it that and everyone is going along with it?

The next one will be called the iPhone 12.

iPhone X was introduced as the new generation, that's why they skipped a few. You should ignore the gap and think of it like this.

Section 1.1, 1.2, 1.3
Section 2.1, 2.2, ..., 2.7
Section 3.1, 3.2, ..., 3.14, 3.15
Section 4.1, ...

 

[MoreRumors?]

That would be good news if they are going to start on time and without delays.

 

[Daniel Kerr]

For interesting but pointless context, the COVID-19 coronavirus is roughly 120nm in diameter.

But that's the size of the entire biochip, including power regulation, and reproduction. Which generation of chip will be able to reproduce? How soon will we be getting a fully functional chip that is that small? Are you sure the CV isn't more advanced? Base pairs are 1-2nm wide, and is there any real doubt the whole architecture is way more advanced--since the engineering problems solved are far more difficult at smaller scale. Metaloids and semiconductors by comparison are clumsy and inefficient.

Sorry, as much as I'd like to disparage CoronaVirus, the tech it uses is far more advanced than anything you or I will ever have. 🙂