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Nothing new here and Jobs didn't crack anything.
Yeah but it's amazing that one guy just sitting in his living room can utter a few words to a biographer and all of a sudden the TV industry scrambles to the drawing boards.

It's freaking hilarious actually. Especially if Steve/Apple had something else entirely different in mind with that "I finally cracked it" comment. :D
 
oh for christ's sake

if i hear one more person whine about "how hard it is to use a tv nowadays" i'm gonna blow my brains out.

really, explain to me why it is so hard and what is so bad about it.
 
if i hear one more person whine about "how hard it is to use a tv nowadays" i'm gonna blow my brains out.

really, explain to me why it is so hard and what is so bad about it.

No complaints from me. I used to have 2 of these now I'm down to 1:

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Not for me. Late at night I don't want to be talking to tv. And there will be other instances as well where voice won't work well.

The example in the article forgets that the problem is really with the cable companies and their slow clunky interfaces when it comes to recording tv.

If your remote had a search button and a cellphone keypad and fast search like from the tech companies then you could quickly type in a few letters of your show, select it and then select record next episode.

IT is the stranglehold of cable and satellite companies over the interface to tv that is the problem.
 
The problem I have with the remote app for iOS is the delay between turning your device on and it connecting to my AppleTV. This makes it difficult to quickly pause what is playing to answer the door, phone etc. Any controller Apple come up with, voice activated or not, has to work as fast as an IR remote or it's going to get slammed IMO.

So bake it into iOS. As long as the phone and the TV are on the same network you could just activate Siri as you normally would on your phone and tell her what you want. I'd hate for that to be the only way, but it certainly wouldn't hurt for it to be one option.
 
After image quality, the most important feature of a TV set for many people is the Full Picture-in-Picture (Full PiP), which requires at least two Digital Terrestrial Television (DTTV or DTT) tuners inside the TV set. Which manufacturers/models deliver that?

Seriously? This is 2011, not 1990. I was a home theater installer from 2002-2010 and did thousands of installations. I think I can recall maybe one or two times when someone asked me about PIP. Most manufacturers don't offer PIP, because it's not a feature anyone really asks for.
 
Considering how often Siri *doesn't* work, I'm having a problem with this.....

no kidding, although I do love how I can set the timer easily, especially in the morning, but in general Siri leaves a lot to be desired.
 
The only problem with voice recognition on TVs is that it could interfere when commanding volume. If the TV is too loud, then the mic may pick that up. "Turn volume down to ten." "Did you say, 'buy a Snuggie?'"

The TV knows what sound it is sending out. Therefore it can cancel out that audio and only listen to what is left.

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If I were in charge of the design for an Apple TV... I'd work on an edge-to-edge screen. No bezel! And just to be different, instead of an all-black face when the power is down... make it all-white.

The point is to be better, not different. Thin bezels are great only if they don't sacrifice image quality or significantly impact price. It's not like you are putting the TV in your pocket, so bezel size doesn't matter. A thin bezel is good for an iPhone, irrelevant for a TV, and bad for an iPad. Apple always take the best design even if something is unpopular among spec-lovers.
 
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Apple is trailing in this arena, not leading.

xbox Kinect had voice control when it launched last November, and half a dozen TV manufacturers showed off some form of voice control in their TVs at this year's CES in January.
It's painfully naive to believe Apple is somehow the innovator in this technology.

It doesn't matter, there are people out there who think Apple invented touch screen and the MP3 player, simply because of their popularity. Actually these people think Steve Jobs invented them personally himself.
 
Sometimes industries bite on losing concepts and keep pushing it to no avail. Like 3D tv. Like a voice controlled tv. The concepts will never catch on beyond a niche market. Stupid ideas.
 
And that "remote" could very well be an iPhone/iPad/Touch.

While an iDevice can be A remote, it can't be THE remote. Being THE remote may work for someone who is single living alone but if the "good" remote leaves the house with someone who lives with others, there will be trouble waiting when they return home.

It will never work for an iDevice to be THE remote for any kind of Apple Television or next-gen :apple:TV unless the market is solely single people living alone or people who can dedicate a mobile device to being immobile as a full time remote.
 
Did a man change the industry, just by thinking it?

I am amazed at how the TV industry is being uprooted and changed, merely because Jobs said so in a book. Pause and think about it folks. A man, saying the he will take the industry in a direction, without even outlining that direction, has changed the course of that industry in a remarkable way.

I'm not trying to be all gushing over Steve, but when is the last time, in our lifetime, have you heard of a anyone hypothesizing (and more so, only rumored to be until the book came out) and billions of dollars in R&D was spent trying to get ahead of his thoughts?

:apple:
 
I am amazed at how the TV industry is being uprooted and changed, merely because Jobs said so in a book. Pause and think about it folks. A man, saying the he will take the industry in a direction, without even outlining that direction, has changed the course of that industry in a remarkable way.

I'm not trying to be all gushing over Steve, but when is the last time, in our lifetime, have you heard of a anyone hypothesizing (and more so, only rumored to be until the book came out) and billions of dollars in R&D was spent trying to get ahead of his thoughts?

:apple:

Im amazed that you put so much weight to one mans speculation. Even if Jobs had never so much as mentioned the TV, the industry would see the opportunity at hand. As such, no wonder that they are all scrambling to beat each other to the chase. After all, if Apple taught us anything, the one to succeed first will be richly rewarded. As such, and given the crisis the industry is in, they would be stupid not to act - regardless.

The genie is already out of the bottle. Any one not moving is a sitting duck, waiting to be killed.
 
Did a man change the industry, just by thinking it?

I am amazed at how the TV industry is being uprooted and changed, merely because Jobs said so in a book.

...except that Microsoft showed voice control with the Xbox in June, and recently updated with program search capabilites that have been in beta since before the biography bit slipped out.

http://techie-buzz.com/microsoft/e3-2011-xbox-dashboard-update.html

Xbox 360 To Get Voice Control, Bing, YouTube, Tiles & Live TV
by Manan Kakkar | Monday, 06th Jun 2011

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Voice Control

With Kinect integration, Microsoft has now enabled voice control throughout the Xbox. Voice commands can be used with Bing to search within apps for content.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/dec11/12-04Xbox360TV.mspx

You Say It, Xbox Finds It

How long does it take you to search and find your favorite movie or TV show? Do you find yourself searching hundreds of channels and multiple services and TV inputs? What if the entertainment you craved was simple, discoverable and exactly what you wanted at that particular moment?

Now, finding your favorite entertainment is easier than ever. Last year, Kinect for Xbox 360 revolutionized controller-free entertainment by letting you use your body and voice to play your favorite games and entertainment, turning you into the controller. The power of Kinect combined with the intelligence of Bing search is turning your voice into the ultimate remote control. With Bing on Xbox, you can use your voice to effortlessly find the games, movies, TV shows and music you want and discover the best offerings on Xbox LIVE, by simply saying what you’re searching for. You say it, Xbox finds it.

Beginning tomorrow and over the coming weeks, Bing on Xbox voice search will initially be available in English in the U.S., Canada and the U.K. for Zune video, Xbox LIVE Marketplace and select content partners. For those who do not have a Kinect for Xbox 360, text search will be available in Xbox LIVE markets.

Lots of innovation coming from Redmond. :D


Im amazed that you put so much weight to one mans speculation. Even if Jobs had never so much as mentioned the TV, the industry would see the opportunity at hand....

The genie is already out of the bottle. Any one not moving is a sitting duck, waiting to be killed.

QFT...
 
Microsoft is way ahead when it comes to centre stage presence in the living room with their xbox 360 + kinect. Its crazy how much stuff you can do on this console.

Ive been visiting a lot of family this winter and I've seen an xbox 360 + Kinect under the TV at every house. Zero AppleTVs...most didn't even know one existed yet they own iPhones.

Sorry but you have to be a rabid fanboy of epic proportions to disagree (we all know who that is around here...) that it's actually Apple who is behind when it comes to living room entertainment.

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I am amazed at how the TV industry is being uprooted and changed, merely because Jobs said so in a book. Pause and think about it folks. A man, saying the he will take the industry in a direction, without even outlining that direction, has changed the course of that industry in a remarkable way.

I'm not trying to be all gushing over Steve, but when is the last time, in our lifetime, have you heard of a anyone hypothesizing (and more so, only rumored to be until the book came out) and billions of dollars in R&D was spent trying to get ahead of his thoughts?

:apple:

No this is just the new tabloid-style way tech sites love to give us news/rumours these days. This is no different to reading gossip magazines about celebs, just its about tech companies and gadgets.

Most if not all of it is complete BS, Macrumors included, but who cares as long as it keeps the hits coming in thick and fast right?
 
Lots of innovation coming from Redmond. :D
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It's about ___ time. Considering you and IT guys think they have been for decades.

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Sorry but you have to be a rabid fanboy of epic proportions to disagree (we all know who that is around here...) that it's actually Apple who is behind when it comes to living room entertainment.
Wow, did you get off typing that? :rolleyes:

Even SJ called it a hobby. Get off people.
 
Sorry but you have to be a rabid fanboy of epic proportions to disagree (we all know who that is around here...) that it's actually Apple who is behind when it comes to living room entertainment.

Apple is going to need a gaming console (or equivalent) if it hopes to own this space.

Even now, PS3 is a better Netflix device than aTV2.
 
not apple product

not even close, where is the round corners, the aluminum edge, the large apple logo?
 
Whoopty freakin do.

That being said, it really doesn't matter how hard these companies try they likely won't prefect the technology or the marketing that Apple can and does.

Love how TVs are trying so hard to be computers these days.
 
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