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tvOS 16.1 changed my video settings without asking

w5jck

w5jck

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tvOS changed my settings from:
  • 4K HDR
  • Chroma 4:2:2
  • Match Dynamic Range ON
  • Match Frame Rate ON
to
  • 4K SDR
  • Chroma 4:2:0
  • Match Dynamic Range OFF
  • Match Frame Rate OFF
What a cluster flub of a company. I just noticed tonight because I’ve been using my Fire TV Cube 3rd gen since installing tvOS 16.1. So if things look wonky, check to see if your settings got changed. I swear, Apple could flub up an anvil with a banana peel!
 
Sheepish-Lord said:
At least it did something right by changing it back to SDR
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This is also my personal preference. I find the ATV GUI to be pretty strange looking when set to HDR. Dolby Vision enabled is even worse. So long as you have Match Dynamic Range set to ON then all your content plays as it’s supposed to independent of the HDR/SDR setting.

More on topic…welcome to New Apple. I want to know why they ALWAYS turn on Bluetooth after a software update to iOS and iPadOS…
 
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w5jck said:
tvOS changed my settings from:
  • 4K HDR
  • Chroma 4:2:2
  • Match Dynamic Range ON
  • Match Frame Rate ON
to
  • 4K SDR
  • Chroma 4:2:0
  • Match Dynamic Range OFF
  • Match Frame Rate OFF
What a cluster flub of a company. I just noticed tonight because I’ve been using my Fire TV Cube 3rd gen since installing tvOS 16.1. So if things look wonky, check to see if your settings got changed. I swear, Apple could flub up an anvil with a banana peel!
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Based on quite a few posts I’ve read, you dislike tvOS very much. Maybe you should bail on it and save yourself the aggravation.
 
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GoodOne said:
Exactly.

The key is to use SDR in the normal UI and enable frame rate and Dynamic range matching. At first it seems strange but once you think about it, it makes sense.

Nicely explained in this video:
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It’s actually pretty hilarious that Apple managed to make this all so muddled and counterintuitive. If they were so dead-set on not having displays blackout on transition, then they could have at least made the menus display correctly in HDR. For such an ostensibly simple device, they made it all about as clear as mud.

ETA: The same could and should repeatedly be said about Change Audio Format and, more specifically, Apple’s steadfast refusal to give an optional toggle for bitstream passthrough. I want my AVR doing my decoding, thanks. That’s why I bought it 🤨
 
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Sheepish-Lord said:
At least it did something right by changing it back to SDR
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That is merely a personal opinion. I prefer HDR so that the screensavers or in HDR because Apple screwed up screensavers where they won't automatically change to HDR if you use SDR as the setting.
 
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Edd70 said:
Based on quite a few posts I’ve read, you dislike tvOS very much. Maybe you should bail on it and save yourself the aggravation.
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I dislike Apple's terrible programming very much. tvOS has potential if they get rid of the bugs. Instead of drinking the Apple juice, perhaps you should demand Apple fix all the bugs and stupid design decisions so we can once again have great hardware with good software. I've been buying Apple hardware since 1981, likely before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye, so don't cop attitude with me. But I insist on Apple doing it right...
 
w5jck said:
I dislike Apple's terrible programming very much. tvOS has potential if they get rid of the bugs. Instead of drinking the Apple juice, perhaps you should demand Apple fix all the bugs and stupid design decisions so we can once again have great hardware with good software. I've been buying Apple hardware since 1981, likely before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye, so don't cop attitude with me. But I insist on Apple doing it right...
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I would venture to say a very small, actually an extremely small number of people change settings after set up.
After working in a store I learned that the vast majority of visitors didn’t stray far from default settings.
But for those that did, it was usually the longest most exhaustion interaction of the day having to listen to the dribble and whining about how the <$150 Apple TV was didn’t live up to an AVR.

I\we have 2 set ups with the same tv and atv models. One is set to my liking and the other to defaults.
My wife and in-laws are not overly techs and can’t tell the difference other than one looks slightly brighter.
That is the audience apple is shooting for. Watching tv is complicated enough.
 
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bruinsrme said:
But for those that did, it was usually the longest most exhaustion interaction of the day having to listen to the dribble and whining about how the <$150 Apple TV was didn’t live up to an AVR.
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An AVR is an Audio Video Receiver. It’s supposed to receive data from a source for processing, amplification and distribution. I highly doubt anyone who takes the time and effort to configure the audio & video settings in their Apple TV mistakes it for an AVR 🤔
 
Jim Lahey said:
An AVR is an Audio Video Receiver. It’s supposed to receive data from a source for processing, amplification and distribution. I highly doubt anyone who takes the time and effort to configure the audio & video settings in their Apple TV mistakes it for an AVR 🤔
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Do you expect AVR performance from an Apple TV?
I surely don’t.
 
bruinsrme said:
Do you expect AVR performance from an Apple TV?
I surely don’t.
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ATV isn’t an AVR. ATV is a source. AVR is a receiver. I expect ATV to fully integrate into any AVR-based home theatre, yes. Specifically I’m referring to it not offering digital bitstream audio out for external processing, and how Apple fumbles around this with confusing and unclear Change Audio Format language. Other players and media boxes have been getting this stuff right since the turn of the century. It really shouldn’t be that difficult in 2022 👍
 
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Jim Lahey said:
ATV isn’t an AVR. ATV is a source. AVR is a receiver. I expect ATV to fully integrate into any AVR-based home theatre, yes. Specifically I’m referring to it not offering digital bitstream audio out for external processing, and how Apple fumbles around this with confusing and unclear Change Audio Format language. Other players and media boxes have been getting this stuff right since the turn of the century. It really shouldn’t be that difficult in 2022 👍
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My point is: majority -> default.
Also the majority -> pays $10 a month to rent a cable box and never changes a setting
Apple throws a few things in to appease the others, throws in a pretty remote and puts it in a pretty box.
I agree the Audio side of the atv is weak. But I realize I’ve grown lazier in the audio/video hobby and I enjoy not being bothered by my wife and in laws how to operate the tv.
 
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