I hate to think that ignorance is better... but that's what it's turning into. Sanity > curation.
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Tweetbot Removes Timeline Streaming, Activity and Stats Tab, and Push Notifications for Some Features Ahead of Twitter Changes [Updated]
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which i might be okay with if the official app didn't suck so much.
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the data in these studies might come out that more folks want some 'more of what you comment on' timeline but there are folks, myself included, that want a flat timeline. and we don't get why it's such a big deal to have both and let us pick
But they do offer the option. Settings -> Account -> Show best tweets first. Turn that off and the timeline becomes chronological again.
Don't see that option in the app?
I've got both installed - Twitter for notifications, and Tweetbot for use.
The whole situations sucks though
For some reason in the App that setting is located in Settings and Privacy -> Content preferences -> Show the best tweets first.
I agree the situation sucks in general though, I'd have much preferred 3rd parties to stay.
"I see your detailed post about the incredibly large analysis of all Twitter users and raise you one personal anecdote."
Ultimately the problem even when looking at data is that it’s a false comparison. It’s sort of like saying, would you rather have rampant consumerism or people starving in the streets? Well, there’s all sorts of choices outside of those two extremes so telling me that more people prefer not starving doesn’t prove that people want rampant consumerism.
One of the biggest things missing in social media are tools that allow people to make connections but selectively opt-out of nonsense.
For example, on Twitter, I follow lots of people. Industry contacts, friends, family, brands, etc. But I don’t want to hear from all of them. I like my cousin Jack but he’s a nut job and I also don’t want to unfollow him and have to hear him ranting about me unfollowing him.
So, I use lists. I have a list for friends and I only include the friends that I actually care enough about to want to read what they say. I have an industry list and it only includes the most relevant people and news sources about my industry.
And when XYZ starts live tweeting some conference that I don’t care about, I mute them for a day or two.
For really complex stuff I have to use filters/search. If I have to follow a high volume account, I’ll put tons of search filters in there to get rid of the repeat tweets, customer support responses, and other stuff I don’t want to see.
If anything, Twitter is the best at this because they do give you quite a good selection of tools. Facebook, not so much. So, when you say that Facebook did a study ... well, I’m not sure I trust their conclusions since there’s not a choice to filter what ends up on your timeline. There’s no easy way to just mute Bob when he goes on an epic 3-day rant about Trump.
So, Facebook makes it seem like people prefer them curating your timeline so they can pick and choose for you and in the process increase their ad revenues.
Like I said, Twitter is better than most but they’re still pretty sad because a lot of this is difficult to set up and maintain. What I would really like to see is social networks using AI to actually deliver content that is relevant.
For instance, I’m Friends with Bob on Facebook but he posts a picture of every meal he eats so I have removed him from my timeline because I can’t take another picture of his latest Olive Garden feast. But, I do want to know when Bob announces he’s getting married or that he just got diagnosed with cancer or that he’s changed jobs.
Or it should be able to figure out that just because I engage with a brand doesn’t mean that I want to see all of their social media manager’s BS posts trying to increase engagement. No, I don’t want to post a photo of how I use your product or take a survey or tell my success story. But I want to know when there’s a product recall. I want to know that there’s been a major security patch released.
AI needs to figure that out. Until AI gets to that point, just give us easy to use filters and give us the data chronologically so we can determine what is or is not of interest.
I don’t want some ad sales executive making that decision for me.
I'm ashamed it took me so long to finally kick Twitter to the kerb. Sometimes you need a trigger to help you move on...
Paying for features that the main service provides for free is a fools gambit. You're beginning to see this now. Sure tweet bot provides a great UI.
LOL, wrong there.
Twitter was already global and popular without third party apps. already a household name ... that is why third party apps existed ... to improve on the UI and accessibility of features (again that are free) on the platform by the service itself. Third party apps and AI helped spur the bot presence and affects your timeline, etc.
Affectively Twitter is cleaning house, and ahead of all other social media apps needing to do the same. We'll see a UI change in the next 12 months yet it will be a gradual change as not to alienate users further as did Snap did.
PS: You're still using their janky service just through a different much clearer lens.
I'd like to see these third party apps that have made their developers rich begin to collaborate with one another then work with Twitter to create new UI on the service's app ... and allow more features to flourish for 3rd party apps. Win Win for everyone.
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Did you miss that the timeline is gone after today?
Disagree. I've been on Twitter for about 12 years now... and NEVER used the native app on a regular basis. I did use the website interface when I first started, but within weeks I was using third party apps. I have tried the native Twitter app several times over the years, and found the interface to be confusing - too much stuff crowding the feed.
And I never called their service janky... I fully understand that the third party apps sit on top of the service and can only access their platform via the available APIs, but I stand my by position that the native Twitter app is janky.
I doubt that any Twitter app developers have gotten rich from this... and the issue is that Twitter is shutting these developers out by removing APIs and crippling the app developers' ability to continue to offer unique and stable options to the platform.
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The guys from Twitterrific were the first to use "tweet" and the first to use any kind of bird iconography surrounding the service. The app was around before the App Store and Twitter was definitely not a household name before iPhone blew up.
There's a difference between having a viable business and "getting rich." Yes, a handful of developers built businesses around Twitter... Which some argue you should never do (build your biz dependent on someone who can pull the rug out from under you), but that's more or less the nature of development. I don't think anyone's gotten "rich" off peddling apps to people who b---- and moan over $5 or $10 apps for their $900 phone.
I didn't say anything about all Twitter-users. I basically don't care about ALL Twitter users. If they can't control themselves and turn their timelines into a disaster with thousands of people they follow – it's their problem. They can go and use the official app that provides not missing interesting content.
I want to use a 3rd party app and what Twitter have done is disgusting.
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Have no idea what you are talking about my Timeline is still here.
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That's why before any app iOS 4/5 included Twitter sign-in account within the main iOS Settings App itself right?
Twitter itself brands the bird iconography before any third party. Where are you making that up?
And I never "b**ched" about an App for being $5-10 for my $900 phone for which I've paid outright full retail since the 3GS and every main model since then (except the SE which I purchased used as an experiment).
You should learn to READ before you make a statement and put words in someone else's mouth! I specifically stated paying for an app that offers services that are free is a fools gambit - meaning the person paying for the app. I've purchased TweetBot version 1 & 2 and quickly realized the same main functionality that the majority of users, or that I use, is being re-done for just about every 2 iOS versions which I got fed up paying for since I could not load the previous versions from the App Store when I made a major phone upgrade and when up on the iOS versions. Again don't mix people's words and to suit your insults of them.
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I know you never called the service Janky, you stated Twitter's main app as janky. I was poking fun using the word, since you're still using their service
And I agree twitter's own app blows. I only use the browser since they've pulled the OSX app. They have every right to pull their own APIs to shut out developers, and thus developers will need to adjust - since well, they didn't build the service. My suggestion was for all twitter developers to come together and pull resources and ideas to come to Twitter to help them bolster/better their service. Maybe also make the argument to re-implement API's or new ones to allow for new features. Since the developers feed of Twitter as a fruit/seed ... why not SEED the source with that is potentially explosive and expand ... a win win for all ... including the end users. Seems like a better idea than to just pull services out from users that have already paid without even a collective fight. But I'm not a coder yet so what do I know.
I don't see BBM (side note: did MySpace actually have a APIs that devs used?) developers crying much today ... they've moved on evolved and probably are a lot better off. hopefully.
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Maybe so .. have no idea if you received the update or not. This threads article begins with "Tweetbot Removes Timeline Streaming" hence why I stated what I did to your earlier post.
Again this is Twitter's service ... they must have a valid reason for pulling this feature, nothin disgusting about it because their service is free. I can see reporters or people that work for media in a business that provides data to their employees or to investors getting upset ... but for just end users it's a gripe for sure. But ultimately it's the service providers choice.
User engagement will either drop, remain the same, or grow and will tell Twitter what they need to do, or the development community will work with them to come to better features, terms, etc. What would you prefer? Personally, the reason I'm against paying an app that provides the same features in a better UI is a personal choice ... and for Twitter which I don't use as heavily as some here are jumping down my posts neck for - struck nerves in a few, not you - finds their services and features very important for the API's removed that they use on their 3rd party apps. This was not a surprised and was mentioned a few short months ago.
Even if this is true, the best solution is to give the user a choice, to view either the curated stream or the raw chronological stream.
In fact, I've been DOING this. I sometimes read Twitter on the website, which gives me the curated stream. I end up seeing different tweets, and interact with them there. Other times I read with Tweetbot, which gives me the strict chronological stream. It's nice to have that choice on how I want to read Twitter.
They should offer the users both options, but instead they're just shoving things down our throats how THEY want it without allowing any input from us.
Just reading the newest front page post ... seems like many points you're correct.
FYI - Tweetbots creator has made decent amount of loot on this app. People are VERY passionate about twitter and the service
That said Twitter did communicate via email not to duplicate services that the platform offered.
Seems like Twitter has been more than generous and fully communicated to app developers well in advance of changes to come. Maybe the developers didn't (or maybe they did I don't really know) communicate changes to their end user community. Conversation to continue in the new thread
Twitter never had a logo when they launched, Twitterrific launched in Jan 2007 (before the first iPhone was even released!!!) they had a bird logo which Twitter later used themselves. So you are wrong, see section on Twitter here:-
https://www.imore.com/evolution-social-media-icon
There is no Mac app at all now (as in, an official Twitter one) so they can't even say they did it to use their apps instead.
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Unless there is another option, it still shows you "x likes x" etc. I for one don't care what the people I follow "like" and do not want to see them.
No, there isn't another option for that unfortunately, I'm not overly keen on it either.
In the previous thread posted today I originally posted ...
After a few rebuttals re-iterated and adjusted my thoughts ...
I stand corrected.
After a few rebuttals re-iterated and adjusted my thoughts ...
I stand corrected.
The majority of Twitter users are using the main app so they’re not concerned about the small number of disgruntled users who are using a 3rd party app. I think one of the reasons they’re doing this could possibly be to make themselves more appealing to a potential buyer. One possibility at least.
They might have millions of peoples data, and the fine. But that should not limit me. I have always been agressive in hiding content (people tagging or commenting on meme's, fun video clips and the like) as there is much I do not see as important, I also use facebook to organise friends, many of which are through different organisations where I do not need daily updates or endless pictures of food, kids, and what not. So lets get some customisation back to the user, and if people have to many post to school through, thats their problem and they should have the tools to deal with it.
And it is not like I am arguing for FB, or any other service, to remove the functions they have now, but rather add something simple where those of us who manage what we want to see can see it chronological
