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Twenty SUVs Damaged in Texas Attack

Thing is, whoever did this will probably go down under some form of domestic terrorism law. And go to jail for a very long time. If it's just kids, they're in real trouble now.
 
That's just stupid - but if you're in the market for a cheap SUV......;)

and that Earth Liberation Front - the ELFs? bwahahahaha:rolleyes:

Oh, I'm dying here.....:D

D
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
ELF's? :eek:
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www.earthliberationfront.com

seems to be shut down....

whois:

Thurston, Darren (EARTHLIBERATIONFRONT-DOM)
NO ORG NAME
PO Box 78061, 2606 Commercial Drive
Vancouver, B.C. V5N1G8
CA

Domain Name: EARTHLIBERATIONFRONT.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Thurston, Darren (DTT61) darren@TAO.CA
PO Box 78061, 2606 Commercial Drive
Vancouver BC V5N1G8
CA
604-618-5469

Record expires on 22-Nov-2003.
Record created on 04-May-2002.
Database last updated on 4-Sep-2003 10:46:43 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

DNS.ENVIROWEB.ORG 208.40.195.228
DNS2.ENVIROWEB.ORG 208.40.195.4

and this link:

http://www.furcommission.com/debate/words6.htm

"Earth Liberation Front, one of the most dangerous terrorist groups in the country"

wacko's

:rolleyes:
 
There was another post about a similar attack in West Covina.

Looks like these kids are fa real.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=35967&suvs+and+destroyed

Interesting stuff. I'd like to sit down and chat with these folks. I definitely agree that SUVs are a massive (pun intended ;) ) problem and there should be legislation against them somehow.

That said, the dealerships are only being proper capitalists and preying on the general stupidity of americans in general.

I'd be more down if these kids went into the "classy" suburbs and did the same thing to the families that drive around their one kid in a Suburban or an Escalade because "they need to protect their kids"

Or better yet, the phonies who tool around in h2's. I'm definitely a fan of that.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I'd be more down if these kids went into the "classy" suburbs and did the same thing to the families that drive around their one kid in a Suburban or an Escalade because "they need to protect their kids"
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So let me get this straight - you're saying that these ELFs should go and vandalize personal property just because.....?
 
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
So let me get this straight - you're saying that these ELFs should go and vandalize personal property just because.....?
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Well, the people who buy these monstrosities are worse than the dealers IMHO. The dealers are selling what they know the public will scoop up like lemmings.

So if you're gonna do it to the dealers, do it to the idiots who buy these things. ;)

Sure. Why not. I'm all for the people who sticker SUVs with bumper stickers that say "i'm helping the environment, ask me how?"

A normal family DOES NOT need one of these things toride back and forth from the café to their suburban McMansion....

So go get 'em! ;)
 
I don't think condoning violence in this way is even a remotely intelligent. There needs to be an alternative to this sort of activism. Sure its an issue, but violence is not a solution.

You're not going to get people to sell their cars by shooting out the windows and slashing tires. And what happens if they get caught doing it? Someone gets hurt.

Its all so stupid. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I don't think condoning violence in this way is even a remotely intelligent. There needs to be an alternative to this sort of activism. Sure its an issue, but violence is not a solution.

You're not going to get people to sell their cars by shooting out the windows and slashing tires. And what happens if they get caught doing it? Someone gets hurt.

Its all so stupid. :rolleyes:
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Well, we live in a country that condones violence. So why not play along? Eh?
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Well, we live in a country that condones violence. So why not play along? Eh?
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So when did we become a country that condones violence? We still live in a free country, so they have a right to buy the SUV and not have personal attacks.

Maybe the car dealerships could have a reverse invisible dog fence!
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Well, we live in a country that condones violence. So why not play along? Eh?
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Yeah, that's a good argument.:rolleyes: Sure things can be hypocritical at times, but allowing violence like that would be just plain stupid.

Anyone busting up my stuff would have to face justice - no exceptions. Trying to take a 'ends justify the means' approach is pretty much going to lead to anarchy. No one wins then.

Blah....

D
 
Becuase 2 wrongs do not make anything better. Peaceful protest should be the way they make their point. I thoroughly disagreed with the issue of the 10 commandments monument, but those people did it right. No violence, no intimidation, no property destruction. These extremist groups need to realize that they are hurting the cause they wish to help when they act like this. This isn't an issue of SUV's, I totally agree with the principles they support, but the tactics are inexcuseable.
 
Originally posted by wdlove
So when did we become a country that condones violence? We still live in a free country, so they have a right to buy the SUV and not have personal attacks.

Maybe the car dealerships could have a reverse invisible dog fence!
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Ummm. Let's see... how about that whole pre-emptive war on iraq from a few months back?

The one where americans are still getting killed. And so are iraqis.
 
unfortunately, violence IS condoned by the country as a whole.

that said, i don't support this stuff.

use the time/money spent on these attacks and educate people about what they're doing when they drive these things. educate them about what our government is doing (nothing really) to support alternative energies and such.

or tutor someone. or whatever.

unless it's a flash mob eh? ;)
 
Originally posted by mactastic
No violence, no intimidation, no property destruction. These extremist groups need to realize that they are hurting the cause they wish to help when they act like this.
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How does this hurt the cause? People are more responsive and attentive to violent actions and protests than to "talking". The 10 Commandments "thing" was highly publicized because it involved a lot of angry people from all surrounding States, and because it involved religion. It got by without the need for violence, but this is a rarity.

Nobody pays attention to stories that indirectly condemn their lifestyle. If theres a news story about inhumane working conditions and paltry salaries at clothing manufacturers.......just change the channel. Sure, you may be indirectly enslaving the 3rd world, but you don't have to hear it. This is a 1st world attitude. That's why anti-corporate, anti-materialist protests (eg: G8 summit) end up involving spray-paint, destruction of commercial property, and sparse violent outbreaks. If they didn't, it wouldn't get more than a brief mention on the news, either print media or televised media.

If somebody talked about how bad SUVs are, do you think it would be in the news? No, but if 20 kids scratch up a few cars, we hear about it. I'd say they're helping their cause, as bad as that sounds to you..........and I.
 
They are also making it easier for those who disagree with them to dismiss them out of hand because of their tactics. So yes, we hear more about it on the news, but it's not good press. I think actions like this harden people into more extreme positions rather than creating a dialog that will lead to productive compromises.
 
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
did you really just say that? ice cube? or is it ice t?
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yo! yo! yo!

I gots da post count crown and some crown royal.

And bizatches on my tip 'cuz i'm postin' 19.5.

Yoooooo!

sorry. couldn't resist.

Jello... you bring out the worst in me. hehe
 
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