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"twice as fast, half the price"
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If my realtor told me "this house is half-priced...only $50,000" and then, later (on her website) had a note saying "oh, and we're charing you $50,000 extra for water, gas, and electricity" then I think they would complain, yes.
You would honestly be perfectly happy with that realtor? You would use her again?
Okay, yeah, they don't have it there. Every other phone advertisement does. Dozens of little words at the bottom of the screen aren't clean. They aren't Jobsian. Besides, who's dumb enough in this day and age to think that you can get a good phone without a contract for a price like that?
Every smartphone needs a contract to get its price to a purchasable level. If people don't like it, get an iPod touch.
Wow, I'd REALLY like you to show me where, in Apple advertising they say something like that...It pretty clearly states that you need AT&T service. I'm also not clear on what point you're trying to make with that example, Toyota wouldn't come out with an ad like that because it's CLEARLY NOT TRUE. Just like Apple wouldn't come out with an ad that implies that you can use the iPhone without cell service. Maybe you're getting confused with the iPod Touch?
Additionally, can you show me ANY cell manufacturer that lists the associated costs (plan, fees, taxes) anywhere in their advertising. Serisouly, show me where Samsung, Palm, Motorolla, etc. mention this in their ads. It's ok, I'll wait.
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I'm not sure why people are so hostile towards logical arguments such as this one.
All of you who are saying that it really IS half the price and that the data cost is AT&T's fault are completely wrong (or just think Apple can do no wrong). Remember, the iPhone is only that cheap BECAUSE AT&T is eating more than half the cost to give it to you that cheap which is WHY they are charging higher data prices. The iphone with NO contract is going to be $599 (8GB) and $699 (16GB). The slogan should be, "twice the speed, twice the price (except for those who at&t will subsidize the price)." You guys should be THANKING AT&T for making the price of the iphone lower, not bashing them! And even though in the long run the cost will be a little more, the value of cash now is def greater than the value of cash 2 yrs from now (not to mention after a yr, at&t allows you to upgrade a device again for the subsidized price).
Perhaps you missed it. The small print at the end of commercials and at the bottom of print ads.
Here's the deal: The ad says:
"It surfs the web and downloads data twice as fast for half the price."
How can you read that and NOT think they are describing the service plan? If you "download data for half the price" that sure sounds like they're describing the connection fee, not the handset fee.
I know they're actually not, so don't explain that to me, but can't you agree they're trying to make it LOOK like they are?
"It surfs the web and downloads data twice as fast for half the price."
How can you read that and NOT think they are describing the service plan? If you "download data for half the price" that sure sounds like they're describing the connection fee, not the handset fee.
I know they're actually not, so don't explain that to me, but can't you agree they're trying to make it LOOK like they are?
Can you show me any of my posts where I say that Apple should do this? It's ok, I'll wait.
EDIT: Actually, the post you quoted before specifically says I DON'T think that. So challenging me to prove something I don't think is kind of odd, don't you think?
my reasoning for not liking is the slogan is because it's a jab (from apple) to current iphone holders. the "twice as fast part" is fine, technology is constantly getting updated, so 3g was a given. the "half the price" is a smack in the face to all the people who paid original pricing and didnt get a break even if they were new to at&t or were up for an upgrade. it also seems that 1st gen iphone owners paid through the roof for something that could have cost much less the first time.
It's all just clever marketing speak. It's half-price up front, and that's all that people see. It's not lying, but it's definitely being a bit creative with the language!
AT&T is subsidizing the phone to reach that "half-price" figure, and they are making up for it with the data fees. If apple were to sell the phone separately the cost would be just as high as the current iphone. So while it may not be apple's "fault" that the data is higher, nor is it to their credit that the price is half.
Regardless, it is half price. Indeed, the UK has a better deal. Summer last year I bought an 8GB iPhone in the UK that you could only get with an 18 month contract for £269. This summer you can get an 8GB 3G iPhone with an 18 month contract for free, or a 16GB one for £59.
That's either INFINITELY cheaper or about 1/5th the price. I can't see how people can think that is not cheaper.
Are people forgetting that you could only officially get the 1st iPhone with a contract? How can you say the 1st iPhone WITH the contract is cheaper than the 3G iPhone with the contract!?
1st gen iPhone with contract (at release) = $599
iPhone 3G with contract (at release) = $199
PLUS they are no longer including the Docking stand for charging. Another $49.95 purchase you didn't need to make for the original unit but do for this one. I just noticed that on Apple's "compare IP and IP3G".
It pisses me off because 3G is a lot more than twice as fast as Edge so it is a huge lie.
It is like 10-15x as fast. Stupid Apple liars.
Giving us 10-15x more speed for half the price.
AT&T is charging the same rates for the iPhone that they charge for other data phones. These rates are also comparable to other networks.
Claiming that the network and data network which are necessary for EVERY phone that is similar is somehow a part of the purchase cost is simply ignorant.
You exclude everything that is the same. If I go to get a smartphone from AT&T on Friday the price of the voice and data plan will be exactly the same. The ONLY difference is the price of the phone.
I'll quote myself and ask again:
It doesn't matter that it's the same as other phones. Apple is trying to make it SOUND like owning an iPhone is cheaper when really it's pretty much the same price to own as it was last month.
I'M PISSED OFF...
pissed, pissed, pissed...
(what am I pissed off about?)
enjoy your new iPhones...
half the price...
of the original iphone.
i don't think that "half the price" is referring to the cost of the plan since i used to have an htc 8525 and it was $10 cheaper per month (total) than what i pay for the cheapest iphone plan right now.
of the original iphone.
i don't think that "half the price" is referring to the cost of the plan since i used to have an htc 8525 and it was $10 cheaper per month (total) than what i pay for the cheapest iphone plan right now.