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YMMV.
Make friends with different people. See their likes and replies.
Drop certain other people because you find out they’re actually extremists.
Still, the algorithms control a lot. I’m finding this more the case lately, as my feed has changed character somewhat, and I’m not happy about it.
Google don’t want a community of users to help each other avoid scam or conspiracy theorist garbage because scandal/controversy sells a lot of advertising impressions.
Haha I find MR weird because there's that 'disagree' button. I've seen a few accounts that just go around hitting disagree (either zero posts or very few - makes me curious about why they're doing this).
Reddit struggles with this matter as they want you to downvote stuff that's spam/off-topic rather than posts that you don't agree with. Since popular opinions float to the top, there's a tendency to only read them (even though there's often a tech answer down the bottom somewhere that's not popular, but it's from an expert who has completely nailed it).
From my perspective I don't care how many people agree/disagree with stuff as that's not a measure of quality. However I find an issue with downvote buttons is that people tend to try and say what they think's gonna be popular (and delete less popular stuff) instead of contributing to healthier discussion.
YMMV. Certain groups on reddit are trash fires. Others are fantastic. Many others are somewhere in-between.
If you get piled on with downvotes, consider whether you’re reading the room. Maybe you’ve actually said something that many people in the room will dislike. Maybe you’ve just gotten into a room full of people who have no interest in your comment. Maybe it’s a crappy room full of jerks. Maybe you’re the jerk.
Again, YMMV.
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Then you might find “Birdwatch” interesting. Are you a member of it? If you’re not a person who tends to get reported or blocked, Twitter likely invited you.
That section appears utterly arbitrary to me. I always view it and there’s almost never a clear delineation between the content there vs outside of it. At best, number of likes and how early in the “conversation” it was posted. Same goes for the “may contain sensitive or offensive language” section.
Yay. More idiotic UI design by people who can’t be bothered to learn the existing research done on UI design.
People are entitled to having stupid opinions, unless you're privy to mass mind control. It's up to adults to choose whether they'd like to associate or not. Personal agency, not blaming others.
As for people leaving the community, those who do made up their mind already. You can't appease the mob, and efforts to due so to keep a minority of whiners sticking around... It's like the politicians who adjust based on smears from a churnalist in another region instead of what's important to their constituents.
I’m more than happy to have extremists and various antisocial personalities suppressed on my “social networking” experiences.
Yeah I like the ability to hard block people more than anything. Happy for people to disagree but not for them to keep badgering me with their disagreement (or simply jealousy) for days.
Facebook can be good for this as it's easy to pick the extremists. I guess as a recent example, I posted an internal mod on a FB group for a model of retro Macs. Some guy kept calling my mod stupid, saying it was worthless and calling me an idiot. A few weeks later he posted this longwinded, bombastic post about how he'd invented a new mod (with inspiration from some random YouTuber) and linked us to all his crossposts/social media. Lo and behold, it was a direct copy of my mod but done poorly (he didn't know how to solder, so had just jammed some wires into a plug carrying 12v, taped them in and boasted that there was 'no need for soldering or cutting wires'... whereas I'd neatly cut, soldered and shrinkwrapped everything).
How do extremists tie in? I was about to reply saying 'haha not asking for credit but that's the ghetto version of my mod... hope it doesn't fry anything when those cables pop out'. Instead I checked his profile and it was full of anti-vaxx & pro-guns banners. Right. Block... not worth talking to this guy.
This is why I’m so annoyingly verbose and post-heavy. I comment. I respond. Especially if I want to offer nuance or reasoning for disagreement. It might be only partial disagreement. Etc. So I end up looking obsessive with a crazy number of comments for a few hours and then seemingly vanish (this is time consuming and I need to move on with my day!!!!).
I agree with the big tech comment, but disagree that twitter is always the worst. Facebook literally drove me to Twitter. I’ve not been on Facebook for over two years.
I see a little of everything you’ve said here. I also see exactly the opposite. It’s a mix of people out there. Some try to engage. Some are trolls. Some engage until they’re fed up with the situation. Some become obsessive. Others never engage at all.
The problem is that a tool that does not explicitly guide its usage will be used however people interpret its purpose. A downvote will always be group-interpreted (most people see it as this) as “dislike”, and the context for dislike will largely not matter.
The tool either needs better cattle chutes, in terms of its design, or it needs to be built to accommodate the most common usage that WILL happen when it’s offered to the masses.
Actually, it’s usually the larger groups who trigger change, even in the face of smaller interest groups loaded with cash. It’s not exactly democracy, but it’s a related phenomenon. Majorities aren’t always correct, but they often do represent the average attitudes of the society, for good or for ill.
People are entitled to stupid opinions, but they are not entitled to a platform to promote said opinions. All of these social networking sites are private businesses, not government agencies. They have the right to delete undesired content and kick out unwanted members.
If the majority of their members want a disruptive member ejected, these companies will choose to go with the money: the majority of eyeballs for their advertising.
What’s a “churnalist”?
Yeesh. Sigh. Sorry you experienced that. It’s part of the personality type involved; extreme personality types usually are extreme in more than one way.
The problem is giving the keys to curators to decide antisocial personalities, instead of blocking/hiding offending content on your own. Being placated like a child asking permission to watch a PG-13 movie.
Agreed, recall the OP:
It makes sense for them to censor according to their user base. I was pointing to the echo chamber effect that's encouraged as a result, and agreeing with OP.
Someone who practices 'churnalism' which is a portmanteau of churn and journalism. It means repeating material from other news reports or press releases instead of reporting based on source material, original research.
I think “dislike” and negative reaction emojis only encourage more bad behavior, which the internet and social media need less of, frankly. I’m actually surprised Twitter is doing this given how nasty it can be.
It also has the potential to be abused by bots and mobs.
And it doesn’t help that some social media companies have moved one way, and some the other. Some have disabled dislikes. Others “disappear” highly negative posts. I think a happy medium would be to allow for users to react, but only make it between the user (for interests), the OP (for stats), and the social media company (for algorithms).
It also has the potential to be abused by bots and mobs.
And it doesn’t help that some social media companies have moved one way, and some the other. Some have disabled dislikes. Others “disappear” highly negative posts. I think a happy medium would be to allow for users to react, but only make it between the user (for interests), the OP (for stats), and the social media company (for algorithms).
I would prefer to be the ultimate curator of my own social networking filtering, but I really would appreciate some group assistance in that effort, as well; just as we all rely on group efforts to create spam and adblock filter lists.
Thanks for the explanation for the word “churnalism”. ??