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I am a midline conservative, just so you know! That insult falls flat every time!
I just prefer not to have the phonies undermine what's left of the rational thinking that is required to make effective decisions in a group of people that seems to be more-and-more convinced by themselves, starting with horrid people like O'Keefe, that everyone is out to get them and that our world is in shambles like a fictional tale.

I don't believe a word of what you are saying. I think you are a liar. I've never even heard of a "midline conservative", sounds like Mitt Romney's claim to be a "severe conservative". Dishonest and repulsive. O'Keefe is a hero.
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Keep in mind that the Princeton Election Consortium made that claim, using their own methodology, but this was soundly rejected by Nate Silver, who said on ABC News that this claim failed to pass a "Common sense test."

CNN's own prediction system estimated that HRC had a 91 percent chance to win, while the NYT estimated that HRC had an 85 percent chance to win.

But, what's important in all of these analyses, and even in the worst ones, is that there still was the possibility that Trump could win.

This is a problem with political reporting and maybe there was too much reliance on national polls—which tend to be inaccurate, especially when compared to state polls.

But, overall, people reported accurately on the data that was available. Being a reporter doesn't mean one is always right, especially when it comes to predictions.

And, there's a tendency to conflate all reporters together as if we all work for CNN. Most of us don't work for CNN. In fact, rather few of us work in Atlanta or New York.

However, Trump and his acolytes don't care about the distinction and attack any report that goes against the Dear Leader like an allergic reaction.

Now, I'm a tough reporter whose spent some years working on tough stories in places that give most normal people pause, so if someone wants to say mean things about me on Twitter, I think it's hilarious.

But, the President is different. President Trump is attacking the media in an effort to distort the meaning of facts in order to make it easier to sell his agenda. And, his broadsides against the First Amendment has real long-term consequences, especially if we cannot agree on basic, checkable facts because someone can just cry "fake news" and hold their hands over their ears.
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"Smoking gun" LOL. O'Keefe couldn't find a smoking gun if he were in front of a firing squad.

Thanks for reminding us that leftists will gladly murder their political opponents when given the chance. Concentration camps are progressive inventions.
 
...Thanks for reminding us that leftists will gladly murder their political opponents when given the chance. Concentration camps are progressive inventions.

Congratulations on proving my point, by completely misunderstanding or mischaracterizing what I said. The conservative allergy is so overreactive that you're attacking a tiny bit of pollen by having a full-blown reaction, vaguely Godwin-ing the thread.

I'm assume you saw the words O'Keefe + firing squad and totally misconstrued what I was saying, so let me be explain:

I'm using a classic metaphor for incompetence, but playing with the idea that O'Keefe found a smoking gun. I don't want O'Keefe to be shot, I want him to stop being terrible at his job.
 
Congratulations on proving my point, by completely misunderstanding or mischaracterizing what I said. The conservative allergy is so overreactive that you're attacking a tiny bit of pollen by having a full-blown reaction, vaguely Godwin-ing the thread.

I'm assume you saw the words O'Keefe + firing squad and totally misconstrued what I was saying, so let me be explain:

I'm using a classic metaphor for incompetence, but playing with the idea that O'Keefe found a smoking gun. I don't want O'Keefe to be shot, I want him to stop being terrible at his job.

You are lying, you know very well what vile thing you were saying. Explaining it away as "playing" with a "a classic metaphor for incompetence" is standard leftist weaseling when called out for reprehensible hate and violent intent. Thankfully you are a nobody on a comment board, while James O'Keefe is taking down the SJW thought police at ****ter. I will make a donation to Project Veritas in your name.
 
I don't believe a word of what you are saying. I think you are a liar. I've never even heard of a "midline conservative", sounds like Mitt Romney's claim to be a "severe conservative". Dishonest and repulsive. O'Keefe is a hero.
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Thanks for reminding us that leftists will gladly murder their political opponents when given the chance. Concentration camps are progressive inventions.

No they weren't and the Nazi's were NOT a progressive party. they were a party that believe it or not, does not fit into the standard political spectrum very well. In fact, the political spectrum is a sham as there is not simply two aspects to politics.

it's more of a compass with 4 axis

The problem with your ascertation that it was a "Progressive" move, is that Progressiveness is about equality and openness, which is exactly counter to facism which is about protectionism and deep routed conservatism (classes of citizenship based on traits)

if anything. Stalin's Work camps were somewhat progressive. Everyone, regardless of background and class could be sent to them as punishment, because everyone should be equal.

Concentration camps however were very conservative and were intended exclusively for certain classes of peoples.
Facism falls under High Authoritarian, and High government controls. Progressives tend to fall more on the libertarian left, vs the libertarian right.

Nazis' believed in free market economy (as long as it was directed towards the war effort and the fatherland), but were strongly authoritarian in what the free market was allowed to do. (you can make as much money as you want as long as it's doing what we tell you to do)
 
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You are lying, you know very well what vile thing you were saying. Explaining it away as "playing" with a "a classic metaphor for incompetence" is standard leftist weaseling when called out for reprehensible hate and violent intent. Thankfully you are a nobody on a comment board, while James O'Keefe is taking down the SJW thought police at ****ter. I will make a donation to Project Veritas in your name.


You couldn't be more off base, bro. You'd know that if you read any of his post history. Then again, pretty hard to take you seriously when you use terms like leftist weaseling, SJW and ****ter. In case the irony escaped you, O'Keefe is a SJW. :eek:
 
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You are lying, you know very well what vile thing you were saying. Explaining it away as "playing" with a "a classic metaphor for incompetence" is standard leftist weaseling when called out for reprehensible hate and violent intent. Thankfully you are a nobody on a comment board, while James O'Keefe is taking down the SJW thought police at ****ter. I will make a donation to Project Veritas in your name.

That's a pretty cute thing to argue mens rea for an Internet comment.

I'm neither millionaire, movie god, nor rock star. But, I know exactly what I meant what I said that "O'Keefe couldn't find a smoking gun in front of a firing squad."

He couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat, apparently means I hope he drowns. And, if I say, he couldn't get out of a wet paper bag, apparently means I hope he suffocates.

You're not impressing anyone with your posing, nor your disingenuous misapprehensions. But, feel free to give O'Keefe all your money, I'm sure he'll be impressed with the rounding error your donation fixes after he stops counting all his Mercer money.

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The weird thing about this comment is that for someone who regularly researches history, you think you'd understand metaphors better.
 
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No they weren't and the Nazi's were NOT a progressive party. they were a party that believe it or not, does not fit into the standard political spectrum very well. In fact, the political spectrum is a sham as there is not simply two aspects to politics.

it's more of a compass with 4 axis

The problem with your ascertation that it was a "Progressive" move, is that Progressiveness is about equality and openness, which is exactly counter to facism which is about protectionism and deep routed conservatism (classes of citizenship based on traits)

if anything. Stalin's Work camps were somewhat progressive. Everyone, regardless of background and class could be sent to them as punishment, because everyone should be equal.

Concentration camps however were very conservative and were intended exclusively for certain classes of peoples.
Facism falls under High Authoritarian, and High government controls. Progressives tend to fall more on the libertarian left, vs the libertarian right.

Nazis' believed in free market economy (as long as it was directed towards the war effort and the fatherland), but were strongly authoritarian in what the free market was allowed to do. (you can make as much money as you want as long as it's doing what we tell you to do)

Rubbish, where do you think the Nazis got their ideas for concentration camps? The Gulag! The Gestapo and NKVD met on multiple occasions. Modern progressivism has nothing to do with equality and openness, it's all about dominance and thought control, Google's intolerance for non-leftist, dissenting viewpoints is a prime example. You don't seem to have much of an idea of who the Nazis were at all, free market economics was certainly NOT one of their beliefs. A free market is by definition not authoritarian. If concentration camps are "very conservative" why were they constructed to imprison Japanese Americans by uber-progressive Franklin D. Roosevelt, while conservative Republicans had wanted to stay out of war with Japan? And why were American leftist-progressives the biggest supporters of Soviet communism in the world, while conservative Southerners were the biggest anti-Fascists? A useful way to look at politics is a spectrum ranging from total freedom to totalitarian despotism. Communists, Nazis and now today's Progressives, all want total dominance over your life, from confiscatory taxes economically, to redefining genders socially to denying God spiritually.
 
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