Twitter Working on End-to-End Encryption for Direct Messages

[nt5672]

It doesnt really matter actually, Twitter would control the endpoint. It's how other E2E services comply with law enforcement for ex, the endpoint app can forward data to be read without having to MitM the encrypted stream. tldr Twitter doesnt need to hold the keys, they can get the data after it gets decrypted on the client.

Then its not end-to-end encryption in any way that matters to me.

So I was right it is only end-to-end encryption except for twitter, friends of twitter, the government, and anyone that can convince some twitter engineer to hand over the data.

It might as well be unencrypted.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

Then its not end-to-end encryption in any way that matters to me.

So I was right it is only end-to-end encryption except for twitter, friends of twitter, the government, and anyone that can convince some twitter engineer to hand over the data.

It might as well be unencrypted.

Accounts get sold and hacked all the time on Twitter and that should be the priority. It is probably 70% bots not just 5%. Jack Dorsey ran that company like a farmer taking a donkey to the horse races.

Musk is even worse. Every day his illusion of intelligence just evaporates every time he opens his mouth about software development and servers.

 

[seek3r]

Being military, we’re mission driven. If you’re the one person capable of performing a role and there are others’ lives depending on you being there and doing it, you stay until it is done. Sometimes the work gets done early and you cut out, I get that. I know my experiences are not the norm here, but 20 hour shifts are a thing on deployments. I look at situations through different eyes because of those experiences. His message reads that these people have not been meeting product deadlines and reading some of the back and forth there is evidence to this (go to Twitter for you ‘sources’ people). He’s set up a forcing function, either do what you were brought on to do or be removed as dead weight. If I have an incapable soldier who cannot perform as is necessary, I cut them loose and bring in someone who can. There’s no more time to piddle around. Twitter has been bloated and mismanaged far too long.

My father was military, I get what you're saying, and what you just illustrated there is why it's sometimes hard for former military to integrate well into a civilian workspace. What I would say is the military is the way it is for a reason, and that's fine but also not necessary in the civilian world. If twitter engineers wanted to join the military they would have, but they *arent* soldiers and expecting them to act like soldiers is problematic.

 

[Sciomar]

It would be like if you, in the military, were being given conflicting orders from day to day by your CO, who loudly demands your respect and publicly demeans you for not doing stuff you were never told to do by a deadline you were never given. Do you respect that CO? You make affectations toward that, for sure, because you're legally obligated to respect the chain of command regardless of who's sitting in it. But in the civi world, that's usually where the hired talent starts job hunting.

Funny enough, you just described some units in the military. 🤣 There are a lot of terrible, incompetent, and emotional people occupying leadership positions. Thankfully there are more measures now to help remove them from those positions, though it takes a while.

My father was military, I get what you're saying, and what you just illustrated there is why it's sometimes hard for former military to integrate well into a civilian workspace. What I would say is the military is the way it is for a reason, and that's fine but also not necessary in the civilian world. If twitter engineers wanted to join the military they would have, but they *arent* soldiers and expecting them to act like soldiers is problematic.

Thanks for his service! It's true, reintegration is very hard. You get used to making things work and "sucking it up" that you become numb to the concept of time and work/life balance. 😅 We can only speculate as to internal communications and previous expectations versus newly established. I by no means operate at his responsibility level, but when I took over platoons or sections I would first watch how they operated while identifying strengths and deficiencies, then I made my changes. He very well could have done the same, but because of the size of the company it just looks more drastic. Again, I am only speculating, everyone seems very quick to denigrate anything this guy does because social media has deemed it imperative. Everything on Twitter is extremely over-sensationalized/exaggerated, including his personality.

 

[themastermind]

Well if your boss was to behave in the same manner as Elon Musk, taking over a company and immediately firing all the top directors and then getting employees access to Twitter computers and accounts disabled without telling them first they are part of the 50% that will be fired then hell yes the boss should be taken down publicly. Musk is proving he is a boss that likes to dish it out but cannot take it when it is fired back at him because when it is, he fires them.

If a boss cannot handle criticism then do not go dishing it out.

That has happened in companies I have worked for before, in fact we have heard it happen at many companies over the years. Everyone is just up in arms because it is Elon Musk, if it was someone else doing it everyone would be like "well that sucks but it happens" and move on. This is all being overhyped because of the anti-Musk people. Does it stink? Yeah, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it, but it is certainly not something new and certainly not something that is specific to Elon Musk.

Also - you lock company computers to keep people from doing bad things. A large number of Twitter employees had been on the Twit bashing Elon and the company, yada yada, as well... the risk of them making personal copies or doing "something" with company data that they had access to was a > 0% chance, so its a risk mitigation move.

 

[laptech]

That has happened in companies I have worked for before, in fact we have heard it happen at many companies over the years. Everyone is just up in arms because it is Elon Musk, if it was someone else doing it everyone would be like "well that sucks but it happens" and move on. This is all being overhyped because of the anti-Musk people. Does it stink? Yeah, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it, but it is certainly not something new and certainly not something that is specific to Elon Musk.

Also - you lock company computers to keep people from doing bad things. A large number of Twitter employees had been on the Twit bashing Elon and the company, yada yada, as well... the risk of them making personal copies or doing "something" with company data that they had access to was a > 0% chance, so its a risk mitigation move.

What Musk is doing happens in a lot of smaller companies which does unfortunately go under the radar and thus not reported on BUT with the scale of the buyout, who the buyer is and the world wide recognition of the social media company, you tell me what other company of the same world wide prominance and same or similar size buy out has been treated in the same exact way?. Had all their directors fired as soon as the take over was finalised, many senior excutives also fired, had 50% of their staff immediately fired also and then threatens the rest with the sack if they do not agree to the new owners outrageous working hours demand. I do not know of one, do you?

The only one I know of that comes close is the P&O ferry saga where the CEO sacked all UK staff in one day over zoom, text messages and emails. Locked them out of company computers and buildings, told them to collect their personal belongings off the ships and to leave immediatly which resulted in reports of security staff removing people off the ships.

Therefore to say 'Everyone is just up in arms because it is Elon Musk' is an incorrect statement to make in my opinion because what Musk is doing, the level he is doing it at and the speed he is doing it at is unprecedented. He is being not only ruthless but cruel to the thousands of long serving employees at the company. He is treating them like garbage (don't need you, out you go with the trash). He is affecting the lives of thousands of people and it would seem he does not care. THIS in my opinion is why people are up in arms over Elon Musk and it is not because of who is is.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

This is all being overhyped because of the anti-Musk people. Does it stink? Yeah, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it, but it is certainly not something new and certainly not something that is specific to Elon Musk.

Noooo, I don’t think we’ve heard of half the employees being fired as well as the entire executive staff. Though, I’ll do some searching later. There’s a good bit of this that is indeed unique to this particular situation. Anyone finding this “out of the ordinary” would certainly be correct in thinking so. That doesn’t make them anti-Musk, it makes them a human capable of understanding when a thing that is occurring is out of the ordinary.

 

[GeneralChang]

Funny enough, you just described some units in the military. 🤣 There are a lot of terrible, incompetent, and emotional people occupying leadership positions. Thankfully there are more measures now to help remove them from those positions, though it takes a while.

It was a slightly educated example, I work with a lot of veterans and they pretty much universally have at least one story about "that guy"!

 

[_Spinn_]

For all the insanity that’s been going on in the media, I really feel like Twitter will get better over the coming months / years. Elon is 100% an ego maniac, but he will bring back Vine (which could actually compete with TikTok) he will simplify and clean up the infrastructure and then be able to use one of the largest databases of human nonsense to train his AIs.

It was so stupid that Twitter killed Vine in the first place.

 

[MacHeritage]

End to end encryption for DMs will be nice. Glad they are bringing it back.