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One more yawn

The current PM G5's are dating fast and the technology gap is not going to get smaller. One more yawn, Id say so by all the posturing and delays.
 
berkleeboy210 said:
Now that these Madonna iPod Rumors are starting to float around, this is leaning more and more towards somewhat of a repeat of Last year's event at this Theatre.

2004: iPod Photo - U2 iPod

2005: iPod Video - Madonna iPod

My 2 cents

I like it...if only Apple was consistent
 
KindredMAC said:
I was banking on the PowerMac and the PowerBook, but the more I think of it, the iMac G5 hasn't seen any real upgrades since it debuted.... as well as the Mac Mini.

The iMac G5 has got a pretty good update: the GPU/VRAM bump. If only the rev.B Mac mini also had a GPU bump along with the 32->64MB bump, it would've been nice (even if only the GeForce Go 5200, which is a bit better than the Radeon 9200).
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
I like it...if only Apple was consistent

It could just be a pink nano introduction. The "one more thing" could refer to the introduction of the 2, 4 GB and black, white iPod nano--oh and one more thing--a pink one (and/or pink Madonna edition).

PowerMac updates might be a separate announcement. Prepare for the worst, and you'll not be crushed.
 
matticus008 said:
It could just be a pink nano introduction. The "one more thing" could refer to the introduction of the 2, 4 GB and black, white iPod nano--oh and one more thing--a pink one (and/or pink Madonna edition).

PowerMac updates might be a separate announcement. Prepare for the worst, and you'll not be crushed.

I would spit nails if this was really the case haha. You do have a good point tho...
 
five04 said:
this week will really hurt my credit card. :)
Only 'til the end of the cycle, when you pay it off in full, right?

No, wait, you couldn't possibly be considering paying the 20+ % credit card interest just to have the latest Apple, could you?
 
I have to agree with the rest of the folks on page 10 (that's all i've read). I'd say that the pink Madonna ipod (nano or otherwise) is probably a sure thing. The fact that she and her music collection are featured prominently at the bottom of the Apple homepage pretty much guarantees that. Plus the fact that pink is about to become the new black (ie Pink RAZR) and the lack of a portable to fill that void means that Apple needs to be able to meet that market demand. I still think that there will be something completely new (i would consider ipod video something new). If I remember correctly there were very few folks that knew about the nano while it was under development/released. Just my 2 cents....
 
au contraire

UMHurricanes34 said:
Intel macs arent going to come until when Steve said they were, June 06, stop trying to jump the gun. They wont be coming this year. The chips arent even available yet and OS x86 isnt ready yet, and there is absolutely no software available yet. Its not gonna happen. Its gonna be updates to the PPC, and as Steve said, that are finally coming out of the "pipeline"
The chips are here - Apple's been telling the developers to program for Dothan systems, and Dothan's been out for half a year.

I don't necessarily disagree with you - except for the fact that if a MacIntel doesn't show up on Wednesday it won't be "because the chips aren't ready"!
 
matticus008 said:
It could just be a pink nano introduction. The "one more thing" could refer to the introduction of the 2, 4 GB and black, white iPod nano--oh and one more thing--a pink one (and/or pink Madonna edition).

PowerMac updates might be a separate announcement. Prepare for the worst, and you'll not be crushed.

I would be crushed if this was the case, but for some horrible reason I think you might be right.
 
No Mactels on Wednesday

AidenShaw said:
The chips are here - Apple's been telling the developers to program for Dothan systems, and Dothan's been out for half a year.

I don't necessarily disagree with you - except for the fact that if a MacIntel doesn't show up on Wednesday it won't be "because the chips aren't ready"!

If Intel based Macs do end up coming early, if it was at all possible it would be a MWSF. This announcement will not be the one for Intel based Macs.
 
OK knuckleheads...I'm only listing this once. Some may get it, others will not...so pay attention! And please don't ask me to respond (this is a one time deal).

As an extra, I'm going to curb the red curtain theory. The curtains are only hiding what's beind them. They could blue, green, yellow, black. It could have been a sheet, a door, or anything else you would conceal something with. They have zero meaning other than to keep you guessing.

Now, listen close! In the very near future you will not be seeing video on your ipod. You will not be accessing movies from your computer through a wireless connection and into your tv, your PowerBooks and PowerMacs will run at the same speed they do today, and Madonna will not appear on stage.

You need to start looking towards the sky and contemplate what the heavens may sing back to you. This will take Serious thought beyond what these postings have offered.

Again, please don't ask me to respond. Just know a few of you will be very happy with what is about to happen with your iPods.
 
I really think we'll be seeing Intel Mac preview machines for the masses. Apple made an OS X beta release for the public. I'm sure they're more than willing to sell boxes with Intel chips and profit from the big demand from them. I'm predicting the same exact dev. configuration kit to be made available for around $1299. Shipping with the latest Mac OS X 10.4.3 for Intel :D As for casing, Apple will go with the small-form factor (like the Shuttle) since it doesn't offer one in this config. Apple wants this box to be faster than the Mac mini and probably the iMac, but slower than the basic updated G5 towers.

Powerbooks will of course receive their G5 chips, running at 1.6 - 2GHz with 512MB memory baseline and a nice X600 graphics chip across the board.

Powermacs will go dual dual cores (4 logical processors?) at 2 - 2.4GHz each.

iPod will not go video. As widely rumoured, same price-point, 40GB and 80GB. They'll announce a special Nano discount during the holiday season, and further bring up the prices of flash memory (by selling more units of the Nano). We're talking about $179 and $229 now.

Airport Express Video will go 802.11n but is backward compatible with current g hardware. Apple wants to be the first few in the industry to go 'n'. Apple introduces iFlicks to store, convert, rip and organise your video collection to be streamed wirelessly.

Bluetooth Mighty Mouse is introduced, bringing down the base wired MM to $39.
 
bertagert said:
You need to start looking towards the sky and contemplate what the heavens may sing back to you. This will take Serious thought beyond what these postings have offered.

Again, please don't ask me to respond. Just know a few of you will be very happy with what is about to happen with your iPods.
Holy crap! Socrates is on this message board!
 
EDIT: Guess I was seeing things.


Anyone else notice that Apple removed the drop-down menus when customizing your Powerbook?

Point is...looks like they might be updating the line!
 
a core is a CPU

bankshot said:
1. As Peace said, current PowerMacs have 2 CPUs. Each CPU is single core, thus 2 cores total.

2. The common interpretation here is that if a quad Mac comes to exist, it will have 2 dual-core CPUs, for a total of 4 cores.

3. Hyperthreading is a technique used by some Intel CPUs to make a single core look like 2 logical processors. For some tasks, this improves performance by letting certain operations execute in parallel while others are stuck waiting for something. For the most part, the benefit is fairly small, and not nearly enough as if you have two physical cores. You still only have one core, so it can only do so much at once.

So in theory it would be possible to have 2 dual-core CPUs with hyperthreading. This would give a total of 8 logical CPUs, made up of 4 physical cores on 2 physical CPUs. As far as I know, IBM has not done anything with hyperthreading, but they do have a new dual-core CPU. It's hoped that new G5s will use these. Whether they'll stay with 2 physical CPUs (giving us 4 cores, twice as many as before), or whether they'll use this to drop down to 1 physical CPU with 2 cores (therefore the same performance in less space), we don't know for sure.
Actually, it's a lot closer to the truth to say that a "core" is a "CPU". What you're calling a "CPU" should be called a "chip" or a "package".


1. As Peace said, current PowerMacs have 2 CPUs. Each CPU is single core, thus 2 cores total.
As Pease said, current PowerMacs have 2 chips. Each chip is single core, thus 2 CPUs total.

2. The common interpretation here is that if a quad Mac comes to exist, it will have 2 dual-core CPUs, for a total of 4 cores.
The common interpretation here is that if a quad Mac comes to exist, it will have 2 dual-core chips, for a total of 4 CPUs.

in theory it would be possible to have 2 dual-core CPUs with hyperthreading. This would give a total of 8 logical CPUs, made up of 4 physical cores on 2 physical CPUs.
in theory, it would be possible to have 2 dual-core chips with HT. This would give a total of 8 logical CPUs, made up of 4 physical CPUs on 2 chips.

As far as I know, IBM has not done anything with hyperthreading, but they do have a new dual-core CPU.[/QUOTE]
IBM calls HT by the name SMT, do a Yahoo! search. Their new chips (and Sun's new SPARCs, by the way) do HT.

BTW, the PPC970 started out as a dual-core chip - the POWER4. The PPC970 is a "POWER4 lite", with the second core chopped out, the cache reduces, and an AltiVec unit glued to the side.
 
aafuss1 said:
I'd like to see and buy JTHM or Jhonen Vasquez iPod SE (the first would look good-as Jhonen did the comic in black and white and it's the 10th anniversary, and Apple offers a nano in black)-SLG does have a deal with Disney (and Apple did sign something do with Disney Records.) Or a Pixar SE. Maybe a Madonna iPod nano SE is most likely.
Perhaps you're being facetious, but I think another iPod special is more likely to be related to someone that most people have heard of, not some minor cult comic artist and his "most famous" character.
 
As to the rumors:

Let's face it, people. Apple is going to be unveiling iPod AV. It's long overdue. Steve says "one more thing" when he unveils new technology, not when he bumps the speed on the PBs a couple hundred megahertz.

As 1984 said earlier, it's one more thing. Not two. Not four. Not seven. While I can see Steve introducing a new AirPort to go with iPod AV (which will be WiFi and Bluetooth enabled), that's it.

Now I'm going to make some huge sweeping predictions. While most of them will probably end up untrue, I think some of them may still be good.

iPod AV will be available in 60/80GB models, in black and white. It will be able to stream music to any Apple-compatible video or music player in your house over Bluetooth or WiFi. It will have a large, ultra-high-res 720x480 pixel OLED display, slightly smaller than the screens on current Pocket PCs, on which you can watch videos (converted to H.264 from DivX or MPEG by iTunes upon import, similar to the protocol used with WMA audio). The controls will be on the sides of the device to maximize the size of the screen.

In conjunction with the introduction of iPod AV, Jobs will also introduce the iTunes Media Store, included with iTunes 5.1. The new iTMS will utilize a BitTorrent-type peer-to-peer protocol for faster downloading. Initially, it will mostly be music videos available (and a few independent films), but movie studios will catch on, just like record labels caught on to iTMS a couple years ago.

We all love the idea of the new PowerBooks. But I can guarantee that you'll be seeing those (maybe even Intel versions) at Macworld this January. And with that event coming so soon, and this event primed to introduce perhaps the most-wanted gadget of the year, why wouldn't Apple do the iPod AV? It just makes sense.
 
matticus008 said:
I agree. Apple's marketing and retailing people would seriously be off their rockers if they thought that nano sales wouldn't slump if you could get 10 times the capacity for $50 more.

That, and nobody really needs more than the capacity of existing iPods for music. What are the chances you'll be away from your computer long enough to listen to the 40 days of music or whatever that a 60GB iPod can hold? I understand that with the audiophile lossless market and people using them for portable data storage that there's a need to add higher capacity models, but there's no reason to increase the bottom end.

The already cantankerous nano owners (as opposed to the satisfied nano owners, like me) will definitely not let the minimal price difference go if Apple does this.

My guess is that iPods will be slimmer, with higher resolution displays and greatly improved battery life and they will move the headphone connector to the bottom for consistency (and so that dock connectors can also make use of the AV-out port. They'll be offered in black and white, with an 80GB model added to the high end. They might include an onboard iTrip like feature that will allow them to be used in cars out of the box (depending on how angry the iTrip manufacturers would become).

oh, please. I don't think that argument can work anymore - people said that with the ipod mini when it first came out..."why spend $249 on 4gb when you can get 20 for $299?" The mini then went on to become the best selling ipod ever. they are two different markets - some people care about capacity, others care more about size.

And regarding the capacity, you're right - no one needs to listen to 40 days straight of music (or whatever it is) - It is about people with large music collections being able to carry every song they own at any time, so that on a whim you can listen to any song at any time. not to mention people that want extra space to store/transport/back up files.

and I hope they don't build itrip functionality into the ipod. I haven't heard an FM transmitter that doesn't suck. unless they can come up with a way to drasticly impove it, don't bother.
 
NO Madonna iPod

It IS NOT a Madonna iPod. Her new album comes out on the 14/15th November. Apple would surely wait until around this date to have another media event to release it. At this event they could have Madonna perform live, promote her new album and promote the pink iPod Nano.

When the U2 iPod was released last year it was in conjunction with their new album. There was no 5 week gap between the iPod release and the album release.
 
Aqua Structure said:
Let's face it, people. Apple is going to be unveiling iPod AV. It's long overdue. Steve says "one more thing" when he unveils new technology, not when he bumps the speed on the PBs a couple hundred megahertz.
You really need to read my post over and over till you get it. I'll repeat...Not video, look to the sky, very serious.

Yours truly,

Socrates
 
bertagert said:
You really need to read my post over and over till you get it. I'll repeat...Not video, look to the sky, very serious.

Yours truly,

Socrates

Solar-powered ipods? :eek: Wow, that would be pretty cool! :rolleyes:
 
crustikid said:
EDIT: Guess I was seeing things.


Anyone else notice that Apple removed the drop-down menus when customizing your Powerbook?

Point is...looks like they might be updating the line!

Good observation and it got me looking, however, I realized the only computer still using the drop-down menu style is the iBook. Must mean iBook updates!! j/k
 
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