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iPad Pro Two Questions on iPadOS need Clarification ?

augustya

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Hi Guys,

So just want to double check here if I have understood this correctly !!

1. Now I can use a External Hard Drive or Flash Drive or Pen Drive with Data and access all my data form it but only save the data in the iPad File APP is that correct ? (Or can it be saved in a third Party APP aswell ?)

2. Can I use an external Mouse just like I can use it a Laptop and work on the iPad without any restrictions ?
 
1) Yes you can use external hard drives, flash drives etc. You can even use the internal storage apparently. We don't know the details yet, but as the beta is available to some, I'm some someone will fill in the details. Keep in mind, right now apps will not be updated with that functionality, even if it is possible (I'm thinking it is).

2) You can use a mouse now, but it is not just like a laptop. It's an accessibility option for a touch-based device, meaning its an alternative to touch for those who can't or don't want to use touch. The "cursor" is finger sized, and there aren't any mouse-sized menus or buttons.

Basically, don't expect it to feel like a Macbook or like its running MacOS. It's still iOS (well iPadOS now), but they've finally opened up the file system/external storage, making the real-life functionality closer to a computer, but it is still a touch-centric OS.
 
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loybond said:
2) You can use a mouse now, but it is not just like a laptop. It's an accessibility option for a touch-based device, meaning its an alternative to touch for those who can't or don't want to use touch. The "cursor" is finger sized, and there aren't any mouse-sized menus or buttons.
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What difference does it make even if it is in accessibility as an user all I am bothered is if I can use an external Mouse and can I start using a Mouse on an iPad just like I do on a Laptop ? So I dont understand when you say that yes, you can use a Mouse, But not like a Laptop ? what does it mean ? what is the difference ?
 
augustya said:
What difference does it make even if it is in accessibility as an user all I am bothered is if I can use an external Mouse and can I start using a Mouse on an iPad just like I do on a Laptop ? So I dont understand when you say that yes, you can use a Mouse, But not like a Laptop ? what does it mean ? what is the difference ?
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He means its just point and click. Prob no right click / shortcut functions
 
I explained it for you... I will copy/paste that part again.

The "cursor" is finger sized, and there aren't any mouse-sized menus or buttons.

Accessibility means its an extra option for those who can't or don't want to use touch. Imagine a person who has trouble lifting their arms or something. Its easier for them to use a mouse, right? So yes, this means that you can use it too.

But the OS is not designed for a mouse. So there is no menu or menu bar. No right click. You have to click and drag sometimes to scroll. The cursor is really fat, because the touch points (or click points in this case) are also fat, i.e. finger sized. You can't use the mouse for very specific clicks the way you do on a computer. Like you won't be able to go to iMovie and click on your timeline in a place the size of a traditional computer cursor.

If this is not already clear enough, the mouse will not offer you precision, and the OS is not designed for mouse use. It's just a remote touch input device.


augustya said:
What difference does it make even if it is in accessibility as an user all I am bothered is if I can use an external Mouse and can I start using a Mouse on an iPad just like I do on a Laptop ? So I dont understand when you say that yes, you can use a Mouse, But not like a Laptop ? what does it mean ? what is the difference ?
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I guess precision with mouse support will come gradually as developers implement mouse input for mac in their apps. Not surprised that for now it's just an accessibility feature. For me a great use for now will be in the kitchen, when I don't want to touch my screen while cooking etc. and interact via a mouse instead. So far I did it with my macbook air 11, but the ipad (propped by the smart cover) will take much less space and the pro will have better audio.
 
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AutomaticApple said:
Yup! Finally! :D
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It isn't !! The mouse support that Apple has given is going to be very cumbersome to use, infact there is no point in having such a mouse support which does not have a right click and the cursor is like gigantic !! not user friendly !!
 
vish26 said:
It isn't !! The mouse support that Apple has given is going to be very cumbersome to use, infact there is no point in having such a mouse support which does not have a right click and the cursor is like gigantic !! not user friendly !!
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Isn’t the middle point the point?

Edit: oops bad reading comprehension... but i thought the middle dot is quite precise though its ugly
 

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AutomaticApple said:
Yup! Finally! :D
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Except it's not the mouse support we were looking for. We weren't looking for just an accessibility option (although I'm sure it will be helpful for some folks out there). We want it to work just like on a real computer... normal cursor, context menus, scroll wheel support, etc. Even just being able to copy/paste via a context menu would make the iPad much more useful as a productivity tool. Just look at how that guy struggled yesterday when trying to demo the new gestures. All that would have been trivial to do with a real mouse and proper support.
 
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MrRabuf said:
Except it's not the mouse support we were looking for. We weren't looking for just an accessibility option (although I'm sure it will be helpful for some folks out there). We want it to work just like on a real computer... normal cursor, context menus, scroll wheel support, etc. Even just being able to copy/paste via a context menu would make the iPad much more useful as a productivity tool. Just look at how that guy struggled yesterday when trying to demo the new gestures. All that would have been trivial to do with a real mouse and proper support.
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Sounds like a good opportunity for App developers to plug this functionality gap.
 
MrRabuf said:
Except it's not the mouse support we were looking for. We weren't looking for just an accessibility option (although I'm sure it will be helpful for some folks out there). We want it to work just like on a real computer... normal cursor, context menus, scroll wheel support, etc. Even just being able to copy/paste via a context menu would make the iPad much more useful as a productivity tool. Just look at how that guy struggled yesterday when trying to demo the new gestures. All that would have been trivial to do with a real mouse and proper support.
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That's exactly my point !!
 
vish26 said:
It isn't !! The mouse support that Apple has given is going to be very cumbersome to use, infact there is no point in having such a mouse support which does not have a right click and the cursor is like gigantic !! not user friendly !!
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Those 2 things can be modify in the next 2-3 months...the support is the big thing, the rest are the little things
The cursor i bet is not here to stay that way for long, maybe beta 2 or 3 will be changed
The right click thing i think will take longer, but if you press longer it can act like right click aka 3d touch on iOS today
 
Anything that decreases the number of times I must reach for the screen while using my iPad with Smart Keyboard is a good thing. I welcome this new feature.
 
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augustya said:
Hi Guys,

1. Now I can use a External Hard Drive or Flash Drive or Pen Drive with Data and access all my data form it but only save the data in the iPad File APP is that correct ? (Or can it be saved in a third Party APP aswell ?)
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Curious about this one as well. considering taking back 10.5 256gb I just bought and getting a 11 64gb.

Will movie viewing off the Thumb Drive work?

Will editing a Lumafusion project right off a hard drive work? So curious.
 
jharvey71884 said:
Curious about this one as well. considering taking back 10.5 256gb I just bought and getting a 11 64gb.

Will movie viewing off the Thumb Drive work?

Will editing a Lumafusion project right off a hard drive work? So curious.
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It was posted elsewhere that movie viewing from attached drive worked - no need to download. This is possible with earlier iOS versions with specialized Lightning drives and associated interface apps.
 
I think we all need to give feedback on this feature of the beta. If enough of us say something who knows. It doesn’t hurt to flood the feedback :)
 
Is it possible to connect a Magic Trackpad via bluetooth?

Via USB C to USB to Lightning seems to work correctly but I'd to connect it wirelessly if possible.
 
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