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U.K. Court Reinstates Lawsuit Accusing Google of Bypassing Safari's Privacy Settings to Track iPhone Users
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This has been explained to you before, so why do you insist on repeating a lie?
Google wrote code to take advantage of an exploit in Safari. They are no different than scammers/hackers exploiting flaws for their own benefit.
They should have reported the issue to Apple so it could be fixed. You know, like they are more than happy to when Project Zero finds an exploit and they can pat themselves on the back in public for finding it.
Hypocrites.
Edited: Even the article (if you read it) says so.
“Google added code to some of its ads that made Safari think that a person was submitting an invisible form to Google, thus creating a temporary cookie.”
What Apple bug? It sounds like google is being sued because special code was developed that hijacks iOS security. In google you trust?
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The headline says it is about a lawsuit against google for taking advantage of Apple's lack of security.
If you were familiar with WEB development then you'd realize that web developers get creative with a lot of things all the time. Which law specifically did Google violate by adding a code that looked like form submission?
I see you're trying this tactic again (Google was just being "creative").
I do write code (including for browsers). It's how I can spot all the lies you tell.
Google agreed to pay a $22 million fine to the FTC over this. I suppose you're going to say Google is in the habit of paying multi-million dollar fines for doing nothing wrong?
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It does not, so stop lying.
From the article:
"Google took advantage of a Safari loophole"
"Apple closed the loophole in a Safari update shortly after"
In this case, "loophole" is synonym with "bug". Safari developers simply did not know enough about web interfaces and overlooked some scenarios.
If apples software was perfect, could google (or even black hat hackers) still have tracked these Safari users?
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Forget about trusting google. Do you trust black hat hackers to not take advantage of Apple's sloppy software?
Waaaiiit a second.
Are you claiming Apple is at fault because they didn’t write a piece of software that was “perfect” (free from bugs or exploits)?
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Another ignorant comment implying developers who can’t write bug-free software actually exist (and none of them are at Apple).
I don't expect perfect software but do you acknowledge that a software dev increases the chance of bad code if they use "goto" statements? If yes, do a web search for "apple goto fail"
You clearly don't understand software. Or even the technology you're discussing. There will always be vulnerabilities, and as is often the case with the web, limited control over the governing technologies means a company may simply be able to take steps to combat a problem rather than definitively resolve it.
This guy's post history is worth a look. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned.
It may not have been a bug as much as an exploit against a different vector. So it may not have been a bug.
Your logic is a bit like saying a burglar is entitled to enter and steal if the door is open.
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One word answer, no. You are taking a specific bug and making a generalization out of it. That is fallacious reasoning.
I am not saying Google is blameless here but this is obviously a bug. Otherwise Apple would not need to fix it.
Something unforeseen is not potentially a bug. Or to take your definition then, android is one hot mess, since now everything is a bug. So either everything is a bug in which case the worlds android maker produces the worst software in the world, or bugs are bugs and exploits are exploits.
Consumers have already lost the privacy argument. Even the EU couldn't outlaw surveillance in exchange for services. They could only enforce disclosure. As long as a web service informs you of their data collections before you use it, it is respecting your privacy. Disregard the service's conditions and the consequences are on you.
As for Google's Safari exploit, One could argue that Apple hacked the websites with its blocks. Most websites depend on ads to exist. The nature of web ads is that they utilize the medium's abilities; they are interactive and adaptive. Blocking ads and their activities, while benefitting from the content they finance, is hacking. Google was simply fighting fire with fire.
As for Google's Safari exploit, One could argue that Apple hacked the websites with its blocks. Most websites depend on ads to exist. The nature of web ads is that they utilize the medium's abilities; they are interactive and adaptive. Blocking ads and their activities, while benefitting from the content they finance, is hacking. Google was simply fighting fire with fire.
Using web standards to block ads, etc is not the same as the exploit that google used. Google hacked. Apple didn’t. And Apple is entitled to benefit financially from their platform.
Google is getting sued, Apple isnot in this matter. That should tell one something.
I know about the “goto fail” bug. You’re hardly the person to lecture me on best practices for writing code. Your comment has nothing to do with what I asked, except to further deflect and imply all Apple software has bad code because of one incident.
You really need to read the FTC settlement. You’re trying to constrain this issue to one of bugs/exploits.
The primary reason Google got into trouble is because they LIED.
They told users they didn’t have to opt-in to tracking and that the standard settings in Safari already blocked tracking. Then they turned around and used an exploit to do something (track users) after telling them they weren’t.
That speaks volumes about the morals of Google. They lied to users AND wrote code to take advantage of an exploit.
There you go again with your double standards. Apple makes it possible for you to disregard a website's business model and still benefit from that provider's content on your own terms. Apple is not protecting you from outside parties. Apple is effectively enabling you to steal. Imagine Apple's reaction if you tried to circumvent their software and services UAL's.
The fact that a foreign government is suing—rather than Apple—is more telling.
There you go again ignoring the facts. Apple uses standard html, probably JavaScript along with AI to determine which streams to allow, and google coded an exploit.
it’s hyperbolic to say Apple enables you to steal as this is your device and you are entitled to determine what you can see. Different than google who placed cookies against safari restrictions.
There is some disjointed logic taking place.