Spotify is a big selling point for a mobile device in countries where Spotify service is available. If they remove the Spotify app from AppStore, I'm pretty sure many Spotify users will move to Android, where Spotify is still available. Only time will tell how all this affects Apple, but I'm sure that losing content providers to Android isn't a good for the iOS platform.
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U.S. and European Regulators 'Looking At' Apple's App Store Subscriptions Program
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No creative sales and marketing can get past paying a 30% fee on top of every subscription when your product is designed around a 1% margin or less.
I would not scrap the project as I would expect the rule to change. Perhaps 30% net versus 30% gross. I would not think it fun to prove to Apple what my costs were to provide a subscription.
I'm being 100% honest. The reason our company is pulling out is because they can't give Apple 30% of their revenue. All of their apps will be pulled. You want to know the name of the company.... AT&T. Yes, AT&T's Navigator and a few new projects will be pulled from Apple's App Store.
I have no reason to lie... I'll let the App Store and the many companies that will pull from it speak for itself.
Apple don't distribute, don't host and don't advertise the content they want the 30% cut.
No it isn't. It's perfectly legal. The only question is whether it is legal for a company with Apple's level of market control to do it. Now given that the level of market control Apple has is below 50% and falling, I'm hard pushed to see how this could be seen as even remotely an anti-trust issue.
This is ********, Stevie putting all publishers into an Apple headlock, losing their 30%... i wouldn't bring any magazines to iOS or any music subscription services, just Apple thinking they can control the world, hopefully the US and European Anti-Trust peeps will do the right thing and squish them like a bug... knock them back into line... Microsoft don't do things like this with their OS yet 99% of all computers run Windows!
consumer computers for dell/hp are like supermarket soda is to Coke and Pepsi. it's a loss leader for branding and the real money is made somewhere else. dell/hp make their money on corporate products and services. the computers are there just to get a foot in the door. they make money on them, but they don't really care about high margins
if apple pulls netflix, kindle, pandora and other apps from the app store why would i buy the iphone 5 for $400 when i can get an android phone with those apps for half the price or less?
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I don't think the courts are that much of a threat. The court of public opinion is a whole different ball game though.
Apple's policy is legit. Companies are allowed to place contract term restrictions on their terms of use. If a company wants to do business with Apple, they have to agree to the terms. They can charge whatever they want, they just can't lowball the price outside the app store. It would be like putting something for sale on Ebay with a link to your own site to sell the item for a lower amount (sans ebay fees).
The fact is that the App Store is easy and brings a much larger qty of subscribers than a website. It's up to the developer to determine if the 30% cut to Apple is worth it. Keep more % of the sales revenue on lower sales volume or keep a smaller % on a much larger sales volume.
The fact is that the App Store is easy and brings a much larger qty of subscribers than a website. It's up to the developer to determine if the 30% cut to Apple is worth it. Keep more % of the sales revenue on lower sales volume or keep a smaller % on a much larger sales volume.
Don't pull the MyWireless app. It's nice being able to check my usage and pay the bill directly from the app. Besides, you can't sign up for anything from it, so no reason to yank it.
Besides, you can't sign up for anything from it, so no reason to yank it.
No, it doesn't mind that you can't sign from the app, if you can sign from the web they are inside the new rules
If someone buys through iTunes (which is the ONLY place they get their 30%) it's no different than walking into Walmart and buying something.
This whole discussion is silly.... why not go complain next to the Mall Management near you and protest them taking a cut of sales from their stores. You realize many malls do this?
I think this is funnier than crap.
The industry and free market had no problems kicking Apple in the nuts when it was a fledgling company and now Apple starts to wield a little power...
So Apple is dictating prices outside the App store... big deal. Don't list your apps there.
Whine on cry-babies.
Settle this with your wallets. It's pretty sad that the average consumer needs protection from his/her stupidity these days.
You may now resume your game of Angry Birds.
The industry and free market had no problems kicking Apple in the nuts when it was a fledgling company and now Apple starts to wield a little power...
So Apple is dictating prices outside the App store... big deal. Don't list your apps there.
Whine on cry-babies.
Settle this with your wallets. It's pretty sad that the average consumer needs protection from his/her stupidity these days.
You may now resume your game of Angry Birds.
I've explained in my post - go back and read it. I see other comments make the same points too...
Here's what I put:
Subscription Content via iOS applications never touch Apple servers - so Apple are basically getting the 30% for free. All Apple do is host the application on the AppStore - and the owner of that App has paid Apple already via the $99 yearly subscription.
Don't pull the MyWireless app. It's nice being able to check my usage and pay the bill directly from the app. Besides, you can't sign up for anything from it, so no reason to yank it.
My Wireless isn't subscription based so it won't be affected.
It's not the policy as such that is raising questions, it is the issue that the iOS (especially the iPad) is a major player in the market and companies who need that 30% as their profit margin cannot bring anything to the App Store, so they are essentially stuck with just Android, Symbian, BlackBerry OS and Windows 7 Phone OS etc, and the whole point is that due to Apple's policy, companies are losing out big time because Apple know that they can maintain the 30% cut because they own a considerable amount of the OS market
I don't know if it is legal or not, I have only said that any companie can't make the rules they want, they must be legal.
And time and the regulator agencies will tell if the new App Store rules are legit or not. Perhaps in USA are legal and in Europe no, or viceversa, or legal in both or ilegal in both. I don't know
The policy can be legit. That does not make it smart. I think this is one Apple will back down on. Apple needs to be able to make money off of subscriptions. They need to prevent companies from cutting them out by selling the subscription off of their websites. I think that a flat 30% will prevent many companies from being able to do business with Apple. They need to find a smarter way.
And chicks for free?
The real problem is Apple saying that you can't offer your product/service at a lower price anywhere else. That makes no sense in any business setting, and is absolutely anti-competitive. They're holding people to ransom -- what can you do? Raise prises across the board or take a 30% hit. I hope Europe move fast to rule it illegal, before Apple go and shoot themselves in the foot too badly. If Hulu, Netflix, Spotify, Lastfm and the others all abandon iOS there is going to be an incredible amount of negative press and bad will.
I don't suscribe to anything, so I don't really care. However Apple should have this particular new terms of service shutdown. I don't mind them trying to get maximum profit where possible, but this isn't it.