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Not all of Europe, or have they fallen to the ways of the greedy American bureaucrats that sell off spectrums despite overall harm to the marketplace?

I don't know anywhere in Europe that it isn't the case.

In-market roaming was speculated by some to be illegal under European law and site sharing arrangements are relatively new and limited only to some sites where it makes sense.
 
Free Market?

So then it would be OK for the government to stop APPLE from buying, say Microsoft? This pick and choosing in a free market IS BS !
AT&T should be able to buy whoever they want regardless of how crappy their service is.
 
Yes but unfortunately, if the T-Mobile towers are not 4G, AT&T will have to upgrade all of them (expensive).
What's your point?

Cell tower equipment needs to be upgraded/repaired/replaced anyhow, whether the tower belongs to AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, NTT DoCoMo, Vodafone NZ, whoever.

If AT&T acquired T-Mobile USA, AT&T would have to foot the upgrade bill. If not, T-Mobile USA would eventually have to pay.

If America Movil or Telefonica bought T-Mobile USA, the parent company would have to upgrade one day.
 
Sounds like the same excuse people make for Apple filing frivolous lawsuits. I am a "Shareholder".

Look when you have 10's of thousands of dollars invested I understand but when you buy a few shares and you are throwing around I am a shareholder... thats like a Porsche Boxter owner gloating to a Porsche GT3 owner.

Like YOU would know how many shares he owns?? Ha.
 
oh please

This is all part of this acquisition "drama," corporations bend the government left and right. Just watch as they "tried to block" AT&T, but in the end will allow it. AT&T didn't spend millions lobbying the government for nothing. Either way t-mobile will die out, they are almost filing bankruptcy, AT&T at least can get their antennas.
 
T-mobile has no real path to getting 4G. This merger was the only way those employees would still have jobs once 4G becomes the norm.

However, their HSPA+ implementation is actually competitive with LTE and WiMax in terms of speed. AT&T's is not. T-mobile just lacks coverage.
 
Too bad

I really think if it is blocked that is the end for T-Mobile..... The German parent is not pumping any money into the company for LTE at all. They said so themselves. They will never have a true 4G network because they can't afford it. Which most likely means no T-Mobile iPhone. Why do you think the German parent wanted to sell out to ATT in the first place? It was a friendly merger NOT a hostile take over.

My predication.... Deutche Telekom puts the company into bankruptcy, and in the end, will end up selling off the assets (towers/spectrum) etc to others. In a way the assets alone are more valuable than T-Mobile as an operator.
 
AT&T will just spread some more money around Washington... hire some friends and family of elected and appointed officials... be required to do some token divestitures... and just like magic the deal will be back on.

It is sad, but lobbying politicians and bureaucrats has become far more important to "success" than good old fashioned innovation and customer service.

You can no longer (with a straight face) call these corporate behemoths, who spend countless amounts of money every year currying favor in Washington, "private sector" entities.
 
Good news. I really hope this doesn't go through for two reasons. The first being that having more mobile phone service will be better for consumers' wallets. The second being that T-Mobile will be more likely to get the iPhone 5 because the deal probably won't go through.
 
Good to see our government works (sometimes). If corporations had their way, we would all have a choice of exactly 1 carrier.

But without the government to pick the winners, the only way they could achieve that is by providing the best product at the best price.... hmmm... sounds like a win for consumers. If they then raise their prices, it creates an incentive for a new little guy to get in the market. No government fines, imprisonment or death necessary.

You see, customers are the ones who should decide which businesses succeed, and they are (until the government steps in and screws it all up). The ones that don't contribute more to their customers than they take go bankrupt, prioritize their debts and get sold off to better management (what should have happened to GM, which was instead handed over to the very covetous management which capsized it in the first place), whereas with government, they prop up continued failures draining the people's money away from things they actually wanted, like the government-subsidized Collins steamship line vs. the entirely-private Vanderbuilt. It's the government-mandated monopolies that can do real harm to people.
 
However, their HSPA+ implementation is actually competitive with LTE and WiMax in terms of speed. AT&T's is not. T-mobile just lacks coverage.

T-Mobile also lacks customers and money. Deutsche Telecom is finished pouring money into the pit. Sprint might be willing to make a low-ball bid if this is blocked, but seeing that it's been more than 6 years and they still haven't fully integrated Nextel, it doesn't bode well for them to integrate yet another incompatible network (actually 2, since they are incompatible at both the 2G and 3G levels).

US Cellular is the strongest regional carrier, but also has the problem of incompatible 2G and 3G networks. Another foreign buyer would have Deutsche Telecom's problem of a small and shrinking customer base. AT&T was the best option for T-Mobile.
 
My predication.... Deutche Telekom puts the company into bankruptcy, and in the end, will end up selling off the assets (towers/spectrum) etc to others. In a way the assets alone are more valuable than T-Mobile as an operator.
Not far fetched.

For the last several quarters, T-Mobile has been losing more customers than they have been adding new customers. Their revenue has also been falling.
http://www.t-mobile.com/company/InvestorRelations.aspx?tp=Abt_Tab_InvestorRelations&ViewArchive=Yes

Maybe getting the iPhone would be the Hail Mary that they need in order to stay in business. Otherwise, they go out of business, and the US is left with three major carriers.
 
Unless you plan on unloading your stock...

I am an AT&T shareholder.

There is no lack of literature and case studies that point to these large mergers resulting in a brief increase in share price followed by a lower than pre-merger stock valuation 18 to 24 months post merger. Unless you are looking to sell off the stock in the near term these mega mergers are not only losers for consumers they are losers for shareholders.
 
I hope they merge. The government needs to learn from its past mistakes and must stop interfering in what needs to become more of a "free" market, not a regulated one.

Free market economics works without the need for preventative anti monopoly legislation. In fact, this acquisition may spur competition and innovation in the wireless communication market but forcing a new inventor or small business to come up with a better means of wireless technology that is more efficient and cost effective than what At&t currently offers, even with the expanded coverage! A large network isn't the only way to compete; new technology is too.

People need to understand that all monopolies crumble eventually, with or without the government getting involved. But if we allow too much regulation, than our economy crumbles. There aren't any resources or inventions out there that are so basic or so isolated to one region that they are either not acquirable through a different means, or not replaceable.
 
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I hope they merge. The government needs to learn from its past mistakes and must stop interfering in what needs to become more of a "free" market, not a regulated one.

Free market economics works without the need for preventative anti monopoly legislation. In fact, this acquisition may spur competition and innovation in the wireless communication market but forcing a new inventor or small business to come up with a better means of wireless technology that is more efficient and cost effective than what At&t currently offers!

People need to understand that all monopolies crumble eventually, with or without the government getting involved. But if we allow to much regulation, than our economy crumbles.
I'm surprised someone could actually be more wrong then the people just babbling on about competition.

i hope they merge but your reasoning is completely wrong.
 
Eh, I mean t-mobile is gana be dead in a year or two and it would make att.'s 4g network completive.
 
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