U.S. Government Using Mobile Ad Location Data to Track Compliance With Curbs on Movement

[IIGS User]

Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

You're quite the rebel, aren't you? How's that working out for ya?

Tell you what. You'll impress me when you've got the cajones to lick a urinal at the Port Authority Bus Terminal and show the world a video of it.

Until then, you're just another keyboard commando who's childish attitude puts you in the same category as someone who eats Tide pods.

Grow up, fella. Let's see if we can keep from filling those morgues up with bodies. You can play in the mud with your rolling coal truck and Tonka toys all you want when this thing is over....

 

[Vjosullivan]

Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

30 March 2020: 2,500 dead in the US so far (and forecast to rise above 100,000). 35,000 dead worldwide. But hey, why care about anyone else.

 

[bpeeps]

30 March 2020: 2,500 dead in the US so far (and forecast to rise above 100,000). 35,000 dead worldwide. But hey, why care about anyone else.

As history has shown us over and over again, people don't care. These are just numbers on the news until it personally affects them. And given the trajectory he's on, it's only a matter of time.

 

[rgbrock1]

Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

Obviously you care more about yourself than anyone else. Selfish much?
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Why do you need to know an "at risk" person? You can be asymptomatic for >1 week while spewing viral particles with every breath. Isolation, together with prophylactic masking, shouldn't require a government mandate.

Correct, it shouldn't require a government mandate. But if you look at "Cocky Jeremy" and his post above, then you will understand why there are government mandates.

 

[kyleh22]

Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

Thanks for putting people at risk...

 

[DrewDaHilp1]

Yes but will they relinquish the monitoring after this has passed?

Governments rarely give up powers.

 

[rgbrock1]

Jokes on you, the IC intelligence community. I block all ad and analytics traffic on a network level. All my network traffics are over a secure VPN to HQ, which then routes exit traffic through a commercial VPN or Tor based on traffic and packet analysis at the gateway.

So, unless the server hosting the web content is also natively hosting first-party ads and analytics without using an advertising network API and without running an internal dedicated ad server or API proxy, nothing will reach me. Therefore, for ones that do reach me, I don’t mind because they are safe, and I believe this is the only legitimate way of advertising and analytics on the web.

There is a log of the ads that are blocked on the network. It is randomly delayed and passed to VMs with Tor-enabled Firefox, all ads are randomly clicked there silently, opened and interacted with silently for a random number of times between 0 and 5 million, and for a random duration between 0.002 to 20 seconds. Each interaction is a stateless RAM-only instance with a new Tor identity, and a randomized set of Firefox profiles.

If you click on every Malicious Ad, that’s going to break the banks of advertisers. A real click can cost $25 just for visiting the advertiser. It is also very boring for analytics octopuses. Having a preference for everything is the same as having no preferences at all.

Trying to act human-like will only generate bot-like patterns that you would never have expected or realized. This is just math. Therefore, you need to act “obviously like a bot” and “no way that’s a bot” randomly, like a bipolar.

Outstanding! You win the Internet for today. LOL! Great stuff, really.

 

[DrewDaHilp1]

 

[DogHouseDub]

This has already been going on - has been for a while now. You can look at the Δ in mobility over the past few weeks with the visualizer here:

Social Distancing Scoreboard

Our interactive Social Distancing Scoreboard informed millions on the changes in how people moved across the US during the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.unacast.com

 

[Iconoclysm]

‘Oh I don’t care, I’ve got nothing to hide, they can do whatever they want with my data’ — Probably nobody anymore.

If your problem is with the government using this data but had no problem with third party companies trading and selling it to anyone in the entire world, you have serious priority issues.
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Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

Says the person that will likely be dead in a couple of months.

 

[lunarworks]

Says the person that will likely be dead in a couple of months.

There's a greater chance that he himself will be fine, but he'll pass the virus onto someone who dies.

 

[Iconoclysm]

There's a greater chance that he himself will be fine, but he'll pass the virus onto someone who dies.

Define "fine". Would you want to potentially be hospitalized with pneumonia and have people say "oh, he's fine"? The public really needs to learn the actual details of what "surviving" this can be. And if people do what he's doing, there won't be a hospital bed for him to use. We're already seeing teenagers dying now. Or hey, how about a $35k hospital bill - that's "fine" right?

 

[lunarworks]

Define "fine". Would you want to potentially be hospitalized with pneumonia and have people say "oh, he's fine"? The public really needs to learn the actual details of what "surviving" this can be. And if people do what he's doing, there won't be a hospital bed for him to use. We're already seeing teenagers dying now. Or hey, how about a $35k hospital bill - that's "fine" right?

The point I was trying to get across is that it's a selfish stance with complete apathy towards the health of others.

 

[iOS Geek]

Governments rarely give up powers.

Which is exactly why I and many in my state are a little worried. Our governor is really seeming to enjoy this little power trip he's been on. He has issued more executive orders in the last three weeks than he has in his entire term. I'd have to take a look at them, but I can remember at least a couple of them that when issued...people were asking "wtf does this have to do with the virus"? He's made some very good moves when it comes to trying to fix this. But he has also made some seriously questionable moves. And unfortunately...in my opinion the questionable moves kind of overshadow the good moves. He made a seriously questionable and consequential move a few weeks ago and we are now starting to see the results of it. The stay-at-home order started 4 days after something he refused to delay, despite the fact that this response should have happened a week earlier.

Aside from that...his current record for responsiveness to my hospital's requests for aid...is bad. We are one of the hardest hit hospitals in the area and he is letting us down. We are effectively on our own. Yesterday was a bad day at work. Today is my day off. I have no idea what I'll be walking into tomorrow.

 

[Iconoclysm]

The point I was trying to get across is that it's a selfish stance with complete apathy towards the health of others.

I understand, my point is that "But did you die?" is not "fine" and these people are also hurting themselves.
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This has already been going on - has been for a while now. You can look at the Δ in mobility over the past few weeks with the visualizer here:

Social Distancing Scoreboard

Our interactive Social Distancing Scoreboard informed millions on the changes in how people moved across the US during the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.unacast.com

Yeah, the entire world has access to this but when our government leverages it - watch out, too much power!

Meanwhile, when they don't leverage it, "Government is so inefficient, private sector is more agile"

 

[dannyyankou]

With the data being anonymized, I think this is fine. They're basically just looking out for clusters of dots in public areas, they need to get an idea of where things stand.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Folks forget that the cell phone companies have been keeping this data for a very long time.

I sat on the jury for murder trial, and the murderer's cell phone records were in evidence. Every time the cell phone made or received a call, the records showed which antenna on which tower had communicated with the phone. Thus they showed an approximate location based on direction from the tower sites as he moved around the county that day.

This was in 2010. With a MVNO carrier and a flip phone.

With today's smart phones constantly sending and receiving internet data, rest assured your location is being recorded whether or not you've agreed to anything with an app.

Very true. Last month I watched a trial at the Old Bailey in London (anyone can enter the visitor gallery. No phones permitted at all at no on site storage so leave the phone elsewhere that day). The prosecution spent a long time focussing on each call made and received on the accused's phone.

 

[dannyyankou]

Good. They'll see I don't care about their stupid "stay at home" BS.

*checks age in profile*

Ah, makes sense.

 

[dan110]

Enough said;
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Individuals still thinking COVID-19 is a non issue words fail. Right now individual actions matter, as consequences are serious to say the least...

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While it is not a "non issue", it is still being overblown.

 

[tongxinshe]

I’m all for protecting the elderly, but this has really opened my eyes as to how willing most people are to just hand over there freedoms and blindly follow what the government tells them to do.

It’s also been telling just how quickly people panic-buy at the grocery stores and how wildly unprepared we are for a serious national disaster.

Of course maybe I’m just jaded. My business (tour buses for musicians) was one of the first industries affected when this thing reached the U.S.. Until the arenas re-open, we’re dead in the water and living off what little savings we have. And since we made a little bit of money last year, we don’t qualify for this magic check that everyone else seems to be set to receive.

We could lose our home and everything else because of this. But oh well, I guess hiding at home from the flu while politicians play games to make it look like they’re part of the solution is worth it. /S

If you’re high risk, stay at home and have your groceries delivered; the rest of us need to get our lives (and this economy) back to normal.

If you are not qualified for the check, that means you earned a large amount in the past. With that level of income, if you didn’t save any to survive just such a short time, you have a deep wrong mindset in the first place anyway.

 

[siddavis]

While it is not a "non issue", it is still being overblown.

How dare you apply nuanced thinking and try to be pragmatic. Don't you know, you are either a saintly savior of life or an evil devil economy worshiper. There is no room for in-between, so please just stay out of this as you clearly haven't decided which side (there are only 2) you should take. /giganticS
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If you are not qualified for the check, that means you earned a large amount in the past. With that level of income, if you didn’t save any to survive just such a short time, you have a deep wrong mindset in the first place anyway.

He or she is an entrepreneur and runs a business for which there is probably a lot of investment that is difficult to nail down in AGI. The businesses outflows don't just stop because Uncle Sam said so. But feel free to attack those willing to take risks, actually create something, employ people, and contribute to a functioning economy.

 

[TheColtr]

Right!!! To hell with science! It’s so inconvenient sometimes! I’m going with cocky jeremy! C’mon everyone, party at his place!!!!!!!

sounds great, I’ll bring the Coronas!
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Wont be effective. Had to remove all public hoops from the backboards here in NY State. Now they play a new game catching rebounds off the backboards. I really don’t see how to stop them. There are simply not enough resources to enforce such adolescent behavior.

this really has separated the adults from the kids, or maybe the caring from the selfish? If you care about anyone other than yourself you’ll stay home, pure and simple. And if you do go out, keep your distance, remember just because they’re essential employees doesn’t mean they are immune.

 

[msp3]

Next stop: Chinese-style full on police state. What do you have to hide? Are you guilty of crime-think?

 

[mixel]

Why do you need to know an "at risk" person? You can be asymptomatic for >1 week while spewing viral particles with every breath. Isolation, together with prophylactic masking, shouldn't require a government mandate.

Oh, he doesn't need to know them. I was trying to appeal to his morals. Maybe he's more likely to care about people he knows than people he doesn't. If they literally can't see how it impacts them and their immediate circle maybe they make different judgement calls.

 

[Queen6]

While it is not a "non issue", it is still being overblown.

Good luck with that one, what can be agreed it's a problem, how big an issue will be debated at a later date...

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