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U.S. Senator Calls on Apple and Google to Ban TikTok From App Stores
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Social media reaches far into a culture’s mind, therefore it is a powerful tool to both extract information and implant ideas. Knowing this, I was very surprised when a Chinese social media app Tik Tok was allowed in the US. And shocked it took this long to start talking about banning it.
ANY country’s government should be very watchful and wary of this new extremely subtle but extremely powerful weapon. It’s a new type of modern warfare.
If anyone thinks this is an issue of America restricting freedom, then they should also allow spies to live in the US in the name of freedom and immigration rights.
ANY country’s government should be very watchful and wary of this new extremely subtle but extremely powerful weapon. It’s a new type of modern warfare.
If anyone thinks this is an issue of America restricting freedom, then they should also allow spies to live in the US in the name of freedom and immigration rights.
Data flowing to the highest bidder is not true though. What really happens is advertisers can target ads based on region, age, gender, interests, etc. But they can’t really see who has those interests or what your individual interests are. The government can, with a warrant of course. But advertisers who bid for ad space can’t see you or your interests.
With respect to China, they don’t have any due process or democracy. They can look at anyone’s data, target individual users, influence public opinions and lot more.
With respect to China, they don’t have any due process or democracy. They can look at anyone’s data, target individual users, influence public opinions and lot more.
Knowing they are under US Law did not stop them sharing data illegal (both illegal in the US and EU) to Cambridge Analytica. And I know what you'll say - oh that's a UK company, not China. And yeah, it is. But it's also the the thing they got caught on. What have they not been caught on? What were the repercussions? They paid $750m to settle the legal battles. Meanwhile, they had $84bn in revenue. So they didn't even notice the fines.
People here hilariously think that Facebook are obeying laws just because they're American laws and that there are actually repercussions for violating them. We know for a cold hard fact this isn't the case because it literally happened. But tell me more about how Meta is fine, but TikTok evil.
Cool, I'll stick to the facts.
Facebook illegally sells your data (see: Cambridge Analytica) and Facebook illegally collects your data without consent (see: Shadow Profiles which they admitted to collecting during the Camridge Analytica scandal).
So we know Facebook is doing it. And we're speculating TikTok is doing it. But only one of these is being asked to be banned? Why is that? Tell me without speculating.
Who said Meta is fine? I said there’s a huge difference in scale. Yes, FB broke/breaks laws but imagine what they would do if they WEREN’T under any US law, which is what TikTok is, except worse, they are under CHINESE law. This makes Tik Tok much much more dangerous and absolutely in need of banning. FB should be punished and regulated for sure, and maybe banned, but because the US has power over FB, banning is not at all as urgent. It’s like a teen that steals from mom and dad vs a home intruder—one wants to see them dead. They’re both bad but not in the same boat.
Oh ok, you feel that. Then I guess we better ban it!
Yeah, rules are pretty lax around here. In Denmark, it’s the same way.
How do you propose that would work? How simple are we talking about and how many votes do you feel this might change, in a close to 50-50 vote society?
(on Safari.) not really, though. It would be totally unprecedented and not really enforceable due to VPNs etc.
(The Norwegian minister.) yes well… they apparently watched less spy movies in Scandinavia, or something
Yeah, maybe detain them and use the capital punishment to prevent this. That’s often done in some other countries. Something to strive for. Fun aside, it would have to be demonstrated to be a national security risk. I haven’t seen that. Just claims.
CA obtained this data via the app platform, without Facebook’s direct involvement.
CA obtained the data via the app platform, without any trade or other compensation.
It’s a fine theory, but I think it doesn’t take into account fundamental differences between American and foreign, especially Chinese companies, and the potential threats that they pose.
I explained my position in these previous posts:
From what I understand the truly horrible thing is that the British(US) Law only protects its citizens and thus excludes the native population. So technically no "laws" have been broken which makes it even worse.
What kind of data can they collect? I don't know much about TikTok, but as far as I know, it's mainly about weird dances, cute pets and other funny videos.
Don't forget about Tax filing websites have been sending users’ financial information to Facebook But no lets worry about supposed foreign nefarious nerdowells collecting data
TikTok has an American subsidiary which is bound to US law…like every multinational company that does business here does.
Samsung is South Korean, but to do business here they have a US subsidiary.
Are you sure you understand the basics of business?
This thread is filled with self declared political and law experts who can barely string a sentence together. We still don't have an answer on why TikTok should be banned over any other social network. Other than "China bad".
So, we should let mistreatment go on today because a tragic event happened 192 years ago (it’s safe to say that no one alive today participated in the event, was alive then to fight to stop it, nor is anyone that participated is alive
today) ?
Most of us here get it. We study history to keep bad events from happening again. We don’t study history to justify wrong doings of today by wrong doings of yesteryears.
Um, it wasn’t on The View, therefore it’s not a fact…
Wow, a democratic senator actually doing something constructive and good for our country (I guess) instead of the B.S. policies they’ve been cramming down our throats the last two years.
saying how it doesn't bring anything to this world yet he contributes tiktok quality banters on here 😂
you don't want it? why do you have it then, i don't want the 1000 different flash light apps on the app store but u dont see me ranting about it 😂
I figured out a while back that the phone is the issue. TikTok on phone? Addictive. TikTok on desktop? Meh. Same with Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. I've sat up for hours at night scrolling social media on my phone...desktop version I barely check once a day...it turns from crack to broccoli on desktop.
Take social media from phones but allow them on desktop and so many problems would get better over night imo...and you still have full access to it. It's like a luxury car vs a Pinto, you still get the utility available just without all the fun addictive parts that make you wanna sit in it all day
Take social media from phones but allow them on desktop and so many problems would get better over night imo...and you still have full access to it. It's like a luxury car vs a Pinto, you still get the utility available just without all the fun addictive parts that make you wanna sit in it all day