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The fact these things barely show up on web traffic reports suggests that they do end up dumped in a drawer, never to be seen again :confused:
 
My friends asked me what laptop to get their daughter, a Mac or Windows? I said, frankly I don't care for the way either of them are going, why don't you look at a Chromebook. They got her one, it suits her needs and she loves it.

Despite the fact I have half a dozen Mac laptops (two are dead, I keep them for sentimental reasons), there's no reason one has to have a Mac. If I just needed e-mail, a word processor, a spreadsheet and a browser, I can't think of why I'd want to spend an extra $1000 or so.
Here is my reason not to get a Chromebook, I don't want to be tied into using Google services. Because I don't want all my actions, on a computer, tracked by ONE COMPANY, Google, so it can be sold to advertisers.

I want my online computer use to be spread around to several companies so my computer life isn't an open book for one company to exploit / sell.

- So, on a Chromebook my browser use, e-mail, word processing, chat, etc. would all be tied to Google services.
- On Windows, OS X, an iPad, I don't have to use an MS or Apple product for any of these services.
And I'm willing to pay more for that kind of flexibility / privacy.
 
Chromebook is not a real laptop. It's an overpriced toy that is essentially useless in the real world. Macbooks continue to dominate in the real laptop market segment with the world's most advanced operating system OS X.

Most of the comments like this are from people who have never used them (spending five minutes on one at Best Buy does not count).

I've had my Acer C720 now for two weeks, its by far my favorite device - just for its simplicity and the lightness of the OS. It does 98% of what most people want in a PC and its versatile, cheap and runs forever on a charge.

All I can say is before you hate, spend $199 and use one for a couple of weeks and you will find out that Chromebooks are one of the best values in tech. Period. Why else would Microsoft spend $millions on a smear campaign?

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Are they competitors to my i7 MacBook Pro?

They have their place and sell more units because they are cheaper than my i7 MBP (surprise surprise... mine has a 500gb SSD, 16GB RAM, an i7 and a dedicated GPU).

I'd prefer to see the raw number of sales. Have MBP/Air sales gone down or are they being compared with $200 POS cr@pt0ps with Atoms/Celerons and the lack of a rich OS (requiring an internet connection... fun fun).

Fandroids seem to have taken over these forums so I'm giving up on battling them. My point though... is an i7 laptop with OS X comparable to an Atom/Celeron based tablet requiring an internet connection that sits in a laptop case? I argue they are two different categories of machines and chromebooks should be in the sub-notebook category because their price/sales largely come down to their lack of grunt/features.

A Chomebook is a much cheaper device than at i7 Macbook - it costs 1/5 the price. The point being just like tablets took away from laptop sales, it appears that Chromebooks are the next blow
 
I really don't 'get' Chromebooks, they can't do anything a tablet (with keyboard) can't do. :confused:

They're (Chromebooks) are all fun and games until you want to go somewhere. Try using your Chromebook in the car or on a plane... maybe… if you have internet available. :)

Personally… I don't get them either… sure… if all you want is something to sit on your desk at home and do email then it's a bargain. To each their own.
 
A question: Doesn't the Chromebook require wi-fi?

I realize that virtually every home has wi-fi while more and more public places have wi-fi access but it still limits it's use.

Yes the Chromebook requires wi-fi to do most of its operations but you are able to create and edit documents off-line as well.

We purchased one for my daughter , who is eleven, for Hanukkah and it does everything she needs. Plus it has no bloat ware and fast boot up times.
 
I can see why Apple is slowly losing tablet market share. We bought the 7" Kindle Fire HDX for our daughter (at her request) and I must say it is a rather nice tablet. I myself still prefer the iPad, but it's nice to know there are very good alternatives out there.
 
People must be buying chromebooks so their android tablet has some company in the bottom drawer

Captain, sensors detect strong RDF readings...

Chromebook is not a real laptop. It's an overpriced toy that is essentially useless in the real world. Macbooks continue to dominate in the real laptop market segment with the world's most advanced operating system OS X.

Kind of like iPad and other tablets, huh?
 
I've just realised what this article is...

Commercial sales to third party retailers... So wouldn't take into account online apple or Apple stores...!!!!

Of course it's not going to look that big! Why would you buy from a retailer rather than apple direct unless there was a biiig discount.

Well, then at the same time it wouldn't count sales through Dell's website or HP's website, etc. I haven't bought a computer from a retailer since my first one back in the early 90s. Since then I have always bought PCs online directly from the manufacturer, but according to what you are saying those sales would not be counted. If that is the truth, then you are right about the numbers being pretty much irrelevant. However, they are irrelevant across the board, not just in the case of apple devices.
 
Chromebook is not a real laptop. It's an overpriced toy that is essentially useless in the real world. Macbooks continue to dominate in the real laptop market segment with the world's most advanced operating system OS X.

It actually looks like Windows continues to dominate the "real laptop market segment."
 
I honestly think chrome books are what windows 8 should have been. Slim, efficient low power hardware with no touch screen in sight. Sell 5x more than anyone else and make same overall profits.

Windows is now the last paid for OS. I can see chrome or others coming to maturity to overtake windows on oem laptops.

I'm really scared of google taking over the world they should be stopped.
 
I never, NEVER get tired of this photo. Laughing hysterically as I type this :D

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Er, no. Sorry, fully disagree.

Just the other day I had to reinstall Windows 8 on my Bootcamp partition. And oddly because I'm using an upgrade license key, I always have to install Windows twice over to get it to activate properly. What ensued next was what seemed like an endless cycle of updating and restarting of over 75 updates, not including upgrading to Windows 8.1, which lasted nearly as long as reinstalling the entire OS. This whole ordeal of getting Windows back to working condition lasted me almost a day's worth of my time. Granted I was not in front of my computer the entire time but it easily equated to several hours.

Meanwhile, I can log in my Apple ID to the Mac App store and download and install the latest version of Mavericks (10.9.1) in one fell swoop in about half an hour. No licensee keys. No activation BS. I absolutely love it.

How inefficient and time consuming of an OS Windows is (in terms of upkeep) makes me loathe Windows with a fiery passion.

Well, you had to install Windows that way because you didn't provide a full version license for the install and instead went around it. That's not Microsofts fault, that's yours.

Windows does separate updates for most thing so you can rollback an update if it causes an issue, very much an enterprise feature.

Mavericks is a service pack with a name, I believe Microsoft allows you to download service packs in "one fell swoop".
 
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Meanwhile at Apple...

I don't see why anyone would want a chrome book. Even the commercials don't show any useful features.

On the other hand Tim is laughing in the picture because he is saying who needs touch screens.

This is the bigger factor that is hurting sales not Chrome books.
 
I'd prefer to see the raw number of sales. Have MBP/Air sales gone down or are they being compared with $200 POS cr@pt0ps with Atoms/Celerons and the lack of a rich OS (requiring an internet connection... fun fun).

Probably best file that under 'Why does it matter/Who cares'

A lot of people here seem to be getting the panties in a twist because a $249 netbook is selling lots. Shocker.
 
It is really sad that there isn't a single PC OEM that can figure out the 5-6 simple rules used by Apple to build a good computer, and scale that down to $300-$800 territory. It is easily doable, but nobody is doing it.
No nonsensical touchscreen, just a good trackpad, good keyboard, decent screen, generous battery and pure SSD. It should be easy to build a $400 laptop with these rules, less powerful hardware than the Macbook Air but still plenty powerful for the common user.
But no, nobody understands it. So the PC industry deserves this.

You forgot a good OS and a user interface that doesn't make it appear to be a Speak&Spell.
 
Why so much hate for Chromebooks? They're hardly eating away at Apple's market share. I don't think people are making the decision between a $300 Chromebook and a $1500 rMBP. They're making the choice between a Chromebook and a $400 Windows laptop. And the Chromebook is beginning to win that battle quite frequently. A Chromebook replaces cheap laptops, but it complements a Mac quite nicely.
 
Well it's better than Linux, FreeBSD if only because of available software, built in and third party. Personally I prefer osx as it's always more stable than windows, BUT, that is generally fault of third party software.

Time machine is still a great sell for me and has saved me on a number of occasions. Surprised there are no decent windows clones of it

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I've just realised what this article is...

Commercial sales to third party retailers... So wouldn't take into account online apple or Apple stores...!!!!

Of course it's not going to look that big! Why would you buy from a retailer rather than apple direct unless there was a biiig discount.

There is nothing exactly like Time Machine due to the fact that Time Machine relies on folder hard-linking. Most file systems have that feature disabled due to the high risk of file system corruption. OS X has strict rules on where folder hard links can be made because of this. An OS would have to have file system support for it, which won't likely happen if the OS manufacturer has no need for it, so third parties can't make anything like Time Machine either.

When it comes to which OS is more advanced though, I'd have to say that once you get deep into the world of OS X automation, you absolutely can't go back to any OS. It is hands-down the best platform for automation, and no third party software could ever hack Windows or Linux up enough to emulate it. I have around 5 AppleScripts I wrote and use daily, and couldn't do without.
 
I don't see why anyone would want a chrome book. Even the commercials don't show any useful features.

It's a browser + anything else you can do in Chrome, and it has a decent keyboard. The better ones (like Pixel) also have a touchscreen. So it's pretty much a tablet with a good-sized screen and a usable keyboard.

With so many people using browsers for email and basic documents, you have to ask what it is that it cannot do. I do use some specialized stuff that needs a real computer. This is not true of either my daughters or my mother.
 
There is nothing exactly like Time Machine due to the fact that Time Machine relies on folder hard-linking. Most file systems have that feature disabled due to the high risk of file system corruption. OS X has strict rules on where folder hard links can be made because of this. An OS would have to have file system support for it, which won't likely happen if the OS manufacturer has no need for it, so third parties can't make anything like Time Machine either.

When it comes to which OS is more advanced though, I'd have to say that once you get deep into the world of OS X automation, you absolutely can't go back to any OS. It is hands-down the best platform for automation, and no third party software could ever hack Windows or Linux up enough to emulate it. I have around 5 AppleScripts I wrote and use daily, and couldn't do without.

All very interesting. Didn't know that. Don't suppose you can share the AppleScripts or perhaps just what they do? I've meant to look into Applescript more. I had ones to change my audio out from headphone to speakers etc. But Mavericks has broken them. Seems they need to be allowed in the security settings.
 
I never, NEVER get tired of this photo. Laughing hysterically as I type this :D

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Er, no. Sorry, fully disagree.

Just the other day I had to reinstall Windows 8 on my Bootcamp partition. And oddly because I'm using an upgrade license key, I always have to install Windows twice over to get it to activate properly. What ensued next was what seemed like an endless cycle of updating and restarting of over 75 updates, not including upgrading to Windows 8.1, which lasted nearly as long as reinstalling the entire OS. This whole ordeal of getting Windows back to working condition lasted me almost a day's worth of my time. Granted I was not in front of my computer the entire time but it easily equated to several hours.

Meanwhile, I can log in my Apple ID to the Mac App store and download and install the latest version of Mavericks (10.9.1) in one fell swoop in about half an hour. No licensee keys. No activation BS. I absolutely love it.

How inefficient and time consuming of an OS Windows is (in terms of upkeep) makes me loathe Windows with a fiery passion.

I bought windows 7 pro (from overstockdotcom) and on installation discovered that the key had "expired". I'd like to curb that damned pc but use it for printing crossword puzzles and torrenting tv shows. (Seasons that have sports in them screw up my recordings to the DVR)
 
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