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johnnyjibbs said:
Maybe there's hidden Wi-Fi capability? The rumoured AirPort Express remote?

However, hidden features like this would have to be declared on the Tech Specs page, wouldn't they? e.g. radio transmission :confused:

I think you're right, it sounds dubious. Still intriguing though!
 
johnnyjibbs said:
Maybe there's hidden Wi-Fi capability? The rumoured AirPort Express remote?

However, hidden features like this would have to be declared on the Tech Specs page, wouldn't they? e.g. radio transmission :confused:

This would be evidence for the observation made by Foxer in this thread

Interesting to say the least.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
However, hidden features like this would have to be declared on the Tech Specs page, wouldn't they? e.g. radio transmission :confused:
If it is capable of transmission, there would certainly be a stack of paper in the box for regulatory compliance.
 
Diatribe said:
This would be evidence for the observation made by Foxer in this thread

Interesting to say the least.
This might be something. But then you could say that "remote control" of AirTunes is what you do using iTunes with your Mac anyway. Still, there are many possibilities. Can anyone confirm if the ordinary 4G iPods have antennas in them?
 
johnnyjibbs said:
This might be something. But then you could say that "remote control" of AirTunes is what you do using iTunes with your Mac anyway. Still, there are many possibilities. Can anyone confirm if the ordinary 4G iPods have antennas in them?

I agree it's all a bit far fetched but Apple said that there are some hidden features in those iPods...
Info about the antenna would sure be appreciated.
 
A little stupid

I see no need to view my photos on a tiny screen. They NEED to put quicktime on this. Then it is worth something. I want to view movies on the plane! My phone and my camera lets me view photos just fine. I also see no need to hook it up to a TV. I dont mind showing my photos on my mac.

GET QUICKTIME ON THERE! Only positive I see is the battery life...
 
Poff said:
Tell him to take it right back. He doesn't need to give a reason for it.

He bought it direct from Apple, so can he send it back without a reason? Won't they ask why when he goes to setup an RMA?
 
rev B please

I apologize if this comes out twice.

Now all I need is a wireless remote and integration with Keynote!
 
That's not the real ipod screen.. So these are the folks that need those little warnings at the bottom of commercials and in magazines that screen images are super-imposed.. fantastic.
unsigned said:
here's their sample image scaled to a220x176 pixel image for comparison. view it on an LCD monitor to get a hint as to the iPod Photo's sharpness.
 
Without crippling amounts of DRM you'll never see that. The MPAA's in the death throes, and they're lashing out in all directions.

grimmace said:
I see no need to view my photos on a tiny screen. They NEED to put quicktime on this. Then it is worth something. I want to view movies on the plane! My phone and my camera lets me view photos just fine. I also see no need to hook it up to a TV. I dont mind showing my photos on my mac.

GET QUICKTIME ON THERE! Only positive I see is the battery life...
 
mvc said:
Bingo, we have a winner - this is the sort of thing that I and most other travelling photographers will be after - its the most solid device I've seen so far from any manufacturer, and EPSON is a quality outfit unlike some of these no name device makers, it supports viewing RAW files as well as JPEG, has a CompactFlash slot built in and has a fantastic quality screen plus TV out. The only downer is that the battery life is low at 3 hours.


*sighs and rubs his temple in frustration*
Why don't people, not singling you out Mvc but people in general, get that this device is a consumer product. It was and in all likelihood, never will be designed for the pro. The photo feature is designed to upload pictures to your iPod from your PC. Let me ask. Does the iPod allow you to upload music on the go? Does it natively support capturing audio? No. These are features outside the scope of the iPod. The iPod's primary goal it to playback your media on the go. Not capture it.

Then you have the whole "Lets put a storage card slot in it" crowd. The device in question is already .75 in size. Do you know what adding a CF and SD (And only both would be fair since CF cards are the more common of the card types on the market.) slot would do to its size? Just look at any Pocket PC that has a dual storage solution vs. a single SD slot and you have your answer. In all likelihood prob .8" or .9". Getting precariously close to one inch thick.

Then you have line in. Built in microphones. Built in WIFI. Etc.
Could apple add all these capabilities? Sure. It then becomes a 1 pound, 1" thick brick that no one likes and consequently they lose to the competition because they end up doing exactly what their competition is doing: Jack of all trades master of none.

Apple is treating the iPod as a national treasure. They aren't going to make any major changes overnight. While the Photo iPod looks like a massive departure from the traditional iPod in reality it's nothing more then a baby step in progress. The form is nearly identical. No features were lost from the B&W iPod. This is an incremental advance people. Apple isn't going to possibly alienate the people that purchase their products. And making a "me too" product that has everything and the kitchen sink would quite possibly do just that. The photo iPod is simply another line of iPod with additional features that are built in that the user can ignore without impacting the performance of the device. You add all the above features and you get some heavy brick that would impact the device in size and weight.

The bigger question I have is what is the NEXT big thing after Photos. I really do think Jobs was talking out of his *** yesterday. Yes. Right now video in its current form it isn't optimal. Eps on a 2" screen. But I can easily imagine within the next two years Apple releasing the iPod video alongside the iPod photo. With the iPod B&W going bye bye by then. The iPod video would have a larger form factor but much smaller then current Windows Media Center devices that are the epitome of the word brick.

So maybe something like this:

-iPod video (Larger Form Factor with 4.5" OLED screen, photo, and audio capabilities.)
-iPod photo (Current form Factor or maybe even a tad smaller. Who knows. We might have fuel cells in 2 years.)
-iPod Mini Photo (With just a color screen and on device viewing capabilities. No video out.)

:confused: Or maybe not. Who knows. Its fun to speculate though.
 
Ireland + S-Video out

Im not sure if anybody noticed but if you are on any apple EU country website, it states that Ireland is available for the iTMS.

2nd. It also looks like the iPod Photo dock has S-Video out, but its not on any of the specs.
 
cadex41 said:
It seems the greatest advantage of storing pictures on the ipod would be from downloading from a digital camera. Carrying the ipod around while taking pictures, it could serve as an unlimited storage unit for the camera's pictures.

I was really surprised to see Apple didn't offer this option.


It is completely possible to download pictures from a digital camera to the iPod. In addition to the Media Reader, Belkin also makes a device called a Digital Camera Link that lets you transfer your photos to the iPod without removing the memory card from your camera. It does a speedier transfer than the Media Reader plus it's much less expensive. Even camera models that aren't listed on the compatibility page work. I use the Canon EOS 20D, and it works just fine even though it's not officially supported by Belkin.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
You are probably right. Time will tell I guess.

No ifs ands or buts about it. If the iPod had a radio built in it, it would HAVE to be certified by the FCC prior to shipping. This is why a number of "scoops" have occurred on a few PDA sites about devices that haven't shipped yet. The FCC ends up posting info on their site and the specs trickle down to the PDA news sites. Sorry guys but looking on FCC's site I'm seeing one grant by them from June of this year and its for the Apple Airport Express Base Station
 
SWEEET!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D
My 60GB iPod Photo shipped this morning! WOOT!

EDIT: DOH! Its not going to be here til the 3rd. I mush have forgotten to do priority shipping. :( The question is will I be listening to upbeat music that day or REM's Its the end of the world as we know it?

OK. Apple has fulfilled one of the products I wanted. Where is the other? (See signature below.) :cool:
 
U2 Version comes with dock?

I don't know if this has been covered in this discussion or not, but in addition to the iPod Photo versions, the U2 iPod seems to include a dock as well, so, maybe the real price difference is $11, and not $50 (assuming that you would get the dock separately with the regular iPods).
 
I don't see any use for a picture iPod. It's too small and way too expensive for what it does. I cannot understand why apple doesn't put a phone with an agenda and contacts into a device like the ipod. More and more people around me are dl music to their Bluetooth enabled phones. And I don't want to go out and have to get a damn M$ driven phone which is the only one that has all the functions I really need without beeing too big.
 
SOCKS!

of course, i'm not going to read all 22 pages to find this out, but were the iPod socks a joke? cause personally i would buy them in a heartbeat. did no one else see this? i think they rock and you get like 6 for 30.00! i WANT!!!!

oh well,
technocoy
 
No iTMS for non-Euro countries in the near future

According to a MacPrime.ch user who claims to have a reliable source, Apple stopped plans to bring iTMS to countries that don't use the Euro currency some time ago. The reason he says is that
the already slim margin on songs bought on iTMS would practically disappear completely due to exchange rates. Also, Apple doesn't plan to open any iTMS store outside the Euro zone anymore, at least not in the near future.

http://www.macprime.ch/article.php?story=20041027082113797#comments (link in German)

Let's hope it's not true but I fear it is true.
 
Okay, I need to chime in on this whole "I need to see how much thicker it is" attitude. The iPod Photo is 0.75 inches thick, .06 inches thicker than the 4G 40GB iPod. .06 inches. That's about a 1/16 of an inch. Or about 1.5mm for you metric types. I gotta think that's nothing to get all worried about.
 
classic009 said:
Im not sure if anybody noticed but if you are on any apple EU country website, it states that Ireland is available for the iTMS.

You're right, that's odd. The German site says iTMS is supported in Ireland, but it isn't.

classic009 said:
2nd. It also looks like the iPod Photo dock has S-Video out, but its not on any of the specs.

Yup, you can see it on the Apple site. I think it was mentioned in Joswiak's interview afterwards too. Supposedly just higher quality output to TV.
 
The U2 iPod comes with $50 off the complete U2, but where is it? I haven't seen it posted on iTMS yet. Is it going to cost $500 too?
 
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