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Music store to Norway soon?

I voted negative because of no flash-pod announcement! :mad:


BUT!!

On the Norwegian apple-u2-ipod pages they talk about people getting a rebate on "the complete u2". So when writing this on a Norwegian page, iTMS can't be far away. Can it?
 
Eric_Z said:
Looks like the "skip protektion time" has gone down on the iPod Photo from "Up to 25 minutes" to "Up to 17minutes".

Still nice though.

whatever situation makes your iPod spazz around for 17 minutes straight would probably be life threatening anyway.
 
Metatron said:
But can we hack it to play movies. It will show pictures and sound, why not movie pictures and sound. Obviously the iPod is heading that direction...I just want to be able to take all my DVD's, export them to h.264 with the upcoming tiger, and play them anywhere...As for the 15 hours battery, wow...

Do you have any idea if these tiny hard-drives are even capable of the transfer rate needed for full-screen video? Watch the battery life drop to 20 minutes when you try playing a movie off of one of these things...
 
Stewie said:
"Photo capacity is based on iPod-viewable photos transferred from iTunes."

So what does iTunes convert the photos to? Anyone wanna take a guess as to the format/compress/size?

Given the size of the screen and resolution of SVideo on a standard TV, I'd guess 720x480 JPEG format would be the max resolution. Apple might bring that down to something more on the order of 360x240 with very little negative impact (that would be approximately VHS resolution for TV output, but might show artifacts in downsampling to the screen resolution). I suspect the thumbnails are pre-rendered on transfer too, at, what, around 50 pixels across?

[edit:] The main oddity here is that they claim only 25,000 photos on the 60GB iPod photo. This may be due to iPhoto "limitations" (25k photos is the upper limit recommended for iPhoto), but if it's a real disk-size issue then that leaves 2.4MB/photo (just slightly less, as a 60GB iPod disk, once formatted, will be less than 60,000 MB). That's a lot of space for a .3 MP image and a thumbnail; even uncompressed at 24-bit resolution a 720x480x24-bit bitmap (or tif) image will take up only around 1 MB ...
 
I don't think that we'll see an iPod mini photo any time soon, they had to make the normal iPod larger to house eveything so can you imagine getting more inners inside the mini? they would probably have to make it larger and how easy would that be to do to the mini? With the normal iPod they just extend it in terms of depth but they couldn't do that with the mini because it has a one part shell. sure it would be cool but i think its far more likely that we'll see a colour screen iPod before we see a colour screen iPod mini photo. The mini might get the colour screen but it might not get the photo capabilities to differenciate between the two lines?

Apple love doing that kind of stuff! :p :confused:
 
jocknerd said:
Is it just me, or does anyone else think its a little bit overpriced? The 4G 40GB iPod is $399. The 40GB Photo iPod is $499. I don't know. I'm just tired of spending a lot of money. I just bought my PowerMac in June and I'm trying to pay that off. How much longer will we wait for the sub $200 iPod's? I guess I'll keep right on using my 30GB 3G iPod and use my iBook to show photos.

Let me see... recent PowerMac, 30GB iPod and iBook...

And you still find a way to complain? :rolleyes:
 
iTunes Store Netherlands

Yeehah!!!
I just purchased my first songs through the iTunes Music Store in The Netherlands (R.E.M. and All Girl Summer Fun Band)!! Although I'm missing some artists. Bettie Serveert (a dutch band) is available in the US Store but not in the dutch store, hmm. I also found some terrible dutch songtitles, which look to be written in a phonetic dutch. Ah well...
 
dornoforpyros said:
the gaps you speak of are an unfortunate side effect of mp3/acc audio. Apple/iPod has nothing to do with this. It's unfortunalty the nature of the beast.

Now that is simply not true! How come so many other programs can play mp3-files without the gaps? WinAmp is one example.


scifiman said:
The new iPhoto iPod kicks butt. But I have a question. My friend just got his 40Gb iPod last Thursday, not ordered but actually received it. He really wanted this iPhoto iPod but at that time it was only a rumor and he figured it wouldn't be out until Macworld. What should he do? Can he simply call and request a return, then order a new one the next day. Would he have to give a reason for the return. Is this even possible? Please respond. He really wants the new one (and I want him to get it so I can play around with it ;)

Tell him to take it right back. He doesn't need to give a reason for it.
 
Yeah but all that does is create a really big mp3/acc file. So even if you take everyone of pink floyds albums and make them each into their own album file your still going to have gaps when you get to the end of one album and switch to the next.

This also essentially keeps you from selecting a song on it's own. feel like hearing money by itself and have no gaps? forget it.

Heck this "fix" you mention don't work at all for shuffle.

veedubdrew said:
Well not so much...

From http://www.apple.com/itunes/import.html

Handy Concept for Concept Rock

Many music CDs contain songs that blend into each other, and importing them to iTunes may create a small gap between songs that interrupts the flow. If you use the iTunes Join Tracks feature, the program melds two or more songs into one, continuous gap-free track. So now you can enjoy listening to classical music, concept rock albums and extended dance mixes without the silent treatment.
 
Asono Elio was also announced today in Norway. English link
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It is a 20GB MP3/WMA + Photo device. It can be connected directly to a camera and can also read SD cards it seems. It shows photos, but can't show photos directly on a TV as far as I can tell. The price is 28% less than the 40GB iPod Photo, so that would be $359 if it was in the U.S. I'm not sure which is the best buy if you compare specs and price.
 
dornoforpyros said:
Yeah but all that does is create a really big mp3/acc file. So even if you take everyone of pink floyds albums and make them each into their own album file your still going to have gaps when you get to the end of one album and switch to the next.

This also essentially keeps you from selecting a song on it's own. feel like hearing money by itself and have no gaps? forget it.

Heck this "fix" you mention don't work at all for shuffle.

You want no gaps between albums? I don't think even Pink Floyd considered that.

As for hearing Money by itself and have no gaps, if it's really "by itself" I think you cannot avoid gaps (i.e. silence) before it starts playing and after it stops. ;)
 
jayscheuerle said:
Do you have any idea if these tiny hard-drives are even capable of the transfer rate needed for full-screen video? Watch the battery life drop to 20 minutes when you try playing a movie off of one of these things...

It's an UDMA100 disk, it'd do just fine...
 
Can Con gots nothin ta do wit it.

Rod Rod said:
Perhaps the Canadian government wants to impose Can-con on the iTMS. Canadians know what I'm talking about. It's the law that dictates radio stations must broadcast at least X amount of Canadian content. Maybe it's been phased out but as far as I know it's still in effect.


Can con is still in full effect (thank god, without it there'd be no Barenaked Ladies, Stompin' Tom Connors, Sam Roberts, Hawksley Workman, Gordon Lightfoot, Sarah McLaughlin, etc.) but it has nothing to do with ecommerce. Can con governs production (in terms of what material can qualify) but really relates to broadcast of canadian material on Tv and in radio. Stores don't have to carry a single canadian album if they don't want to, but they'd be fools since the content rules make canadian music much more popular than it would otherwise be. Most brick and mortar music stores have ton(ne)s of canadian stuff up here because it's popular and sells well, and apple would be smart to do the same, just as they've done in britain. Also certain albums aren't released in canada when they come out in the states, and apple's agreement would be with the canadian subsidiaries of the big 5.

They'll make a canadian store for economic and label reasons, not governmental ones.
 
hehe yes no gab between albums is definalty impossible....well actually I think Atari Teenage Riot did an album where the last 2 seconds of the last song were the first 2 seconds of the first song so the album would loop with it'self.

But my point is that Mp3's have gaps between separate files. And to the person who claimed winamp didn't have these gaps you are wrong. Winamp simply has a cross fade in use which fades from song to song so the gaps arean't as noticable. If you turn the cross fading off the gaps are still present.

dejo said:
You want no gaps between albums? I don't think even Pink Floyd considered that.

As for hearing Money by itself and have no gaps, if it's really "by itself" I think you cannot avoid gaps (i.e. silence) before it starts playing and after it stops. ;)
 
My Analysis-Questions

OK, first- SWEET!!!!!!!!!! More/cooler ipods, more itms, more software all equals more customers. Way great. And, black U2 ipod, not a bad deal in the least, as even if I don't want the WHOLE catalog... it's worth a lot more than $50.

Now, the questions (and a few comments):

1. What is new in itunes 4.7?
1a) For those who aren't getting new ipods, what are the new features/functionality? They're had better be SOMETHING.
1b) If it didn't break rhapsody, I'd say tomorrow microsoft would make windows open source. But what else does it break? Gettunes and Ourtunes, anybody know?

2. Man, I love the additions to itms, even though I'm (gulp) an american. (hopefully I can say that with a much smaller gulp in a week!!!!). But, no Japan and Canada! Those are no brainers?

3. Also concerning itms additions: is the .99 euro price increasing or decreasing the price of any of the old european music stores? How do prices compare, now, between US, Britain, rest of europe?

4. GRRR.... a b+w screen, 60 gig ipod would naturally have fit into the line at 499. I understand that the photo will sell (I don't see why, but people buy phones that take pictures that can only look decent on the phone's screen, so...). But please, the ipod is first about music, why should I have to pay an extra hundread dollars for a feature I don't want, (color) before I can then spend another hundread for what I do (size)? Hopefully next gen. will have a larger size ipod without photo, instead of adding photo to lower sizes.
 
Did ANYONE Else Notice...

...that Apple finally ditched their classic "Chicago" font used for the iPod, and now the "Myriad" font they use in all their ads has replaced it?

I will wait until photo capabilities make their way into ALL the iPods. $299 or $349 iPod Photo...mmmm
 
SilentPanda said:
At a guess I'd say...

Syncs iPod-viewable photos in JPEG, BMP, GIF, TIFF and PNG formats

http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/specs.html

Correct, but there are the iPod-viewable images (25,000 capacity) and "full resolution" images (capacity indeterminate as "full resolution" may be anything from 2MP to 25MP per picture). The web site makes a very clear distinction there, which I read as meaning that iTunes will resample your photos to some other format/resolution on the fly as they are being transfered over (which is, really, a very quick and easy process, much more practical than, say, transcoding audio on the fly ...).
 
johnnyjibbs said:
There's also an option for the mini player to stay on top of all other windows in the advanced tab. I think this is quite a useful feature.

farkin' right its a useful feature... been wanting this since i first laid eyes on iTunes!!
 
I actually liked the 3G buttons better -- so I'll be hanging onto my 10-gig iPod for a while.

But when it comes to the new models, the photo thing looks pretty cool, though the price is starting to get into iBook territory...but it will come down.

The U2 iPod might be nice for a U2 fan or someone who doesn't want to buy from Colorware.

Though if I were in the iPod market again today I'd probably just get the 20-gig and save the rest for accessories.
 
dornoforpyros said:
And to the person who claimed winamp didn't have these gaps you are wrong. Winamp simply has a cross fade in use which fades from song to song so the gaps arean't as noticable. If you turn the cross fading off the gaps are still present.

Umm, iTunes also has a crossfade feature. You can even set it to 0 seconds. How it compares to Winamp's, I have no idea.

But what I think we all want is gapless playback on the iPod.
 
dejo said:
wildmac, here's an idea. Instead of just disagreeing with something, why don't you try citing specific examples to back up your argument? Then you look less reactionary and more researched.

I'm not reactionary, I'm underwhelmed at Apple's offerings.

Currently I am using a SmartDisk FlashTrax. It shows pictures, (including RAW format from my camera, plays MP3's, can store files, etc. And most importantly, I can transfer images directly from my flash-cards.

And it has a bigger screen.

These devices have different capabilities, but to show you what's out there.....

http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html

http://www.archos.com/ (photos, MP3's and VIDEO)

Apple is late to the game, and I resent being called a liar.
 
rikers_mailbox said:
from the Quicktime 6.5.2 installation. . .

QuickTime 6.5.2 is an important release which includes a security update and bug fixes. In addition this release includes enhancements in the Apple Lossless Encoder and AAC codecs, as well as improved support for iTunes and other QuickTime-based applications.

. . . just FYI.

Is it AACplus? Did they simply not mention it? (after all, it would lower demand for higher-capacity iPods, wouldn't it?)
 
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