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*ugh* my 17" MBP 2008 only has 1.5 Gigabit SATA only too :-(

sparkie7

sparkie7

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With all these 13 & 15" MBP SATA threads I decided to check my 17" BTO SSD MBP from Oct last year. (Last of the classic 17"s, a MacBook Pro 4,1). It was a BTO with 128 SSD from Apple store. I know its not the latest UMBP but still I would have thought Apple would have shipped my custom order with 3.0GB SATA since I ordered it with their SSD drive option.

I feel ripped off and shafted.
 
sparkie7 said:
With all these 13 & 15" MBP SATA threads I decided to check my 17" BTO SSD MBP from Oct last year. (Last of the classic 17"s, a MacBook Pro 4,1). It was a BTO with 128 SSD from Apple store. I know its not the latest UMBP but still I would have thought Apple would have shipped my custom order with 3.0GB SATA since I ordered it with their SSD drive option.

I feel ripped off and shafted.
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All non-unibody MBPs have SATA I. SATA II didn't appear in Apple Laptops until the unibody MBs and MBPs.
 
Look on the bright side - you got a great looking machine. People who buy a MacBook Pro today have to put up with one of the ugliest designs Apple has ever shipped.
 
OllyW said:
It has obviously made no difference to you over the last 9 months, why get bothered about it now?
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This is what gets me. They buy a new Macbook 6 months ago and LOVE IT.

Go back and look at their " Got My New Notebook And Love It " posts.

Now all of a sudden an update is released and they complain about how the notebook they bought and love last year sucks.

:lol:

What's up with that ??????? :confused:
 
neiltc13 said:
Look on the bright side - you got a great looking machine. People who buy a MacBook Pro today have to put up with one of the ugliest designs Apple has ever shipped.
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To each his or her own. I found the previously MBP to look like a Fisher-Price play thing, and the keyboard was pretty hideous.

You can back up various reasons why Apple's current line up is lacking hardware wise, but I think you are in the minority if you try to say Apple makes ugly products, especially now that they have a unified aluminum them which so many people like.
 
I think the current mbp's are a nice sleek design.

I did not like the old ones where they have all silver around the screen.
 
Thiol said:
All non-unibody MBPs have SATA I. SATA II didn't appear in Apple Laptops until the unibody MBs and MBPs.
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ok, are you sure? Looks like you might have the same model machine by looking at your sig..

MacBookPro4,1, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHz
 
sparkie7 said:
ok, are you sure?
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Before October 14, 2008, all Mac notebooks used Intel motherboards with SATA 1.5 Gb/s. SATA 3 Gb/s only appeared with nVidia chipsets last year. Also it will make no difference to you with your current drive, the SSDs Apple ships with their laptops aren't speedy enough for this.
 
MyDesktopBroke said:
To each his or her own. I found the previously MBP to look like a Fisher-Price play thing, and the keyboard was pretty hideous.

You can back up various reasons why Apple's current line up is lacking hardware wise, but I think you are in the minority if you try to say Apple makes ugly products, especially now that they have a unified aluminum them which so many people like.
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yea i agree, the uMBP's are some of the sexiest laptops i've ever seen, they are streamlined & refined, yet drop dead gorgeous, apple can design the hell outta a product, that is for sure (aside from that weird chode ipod nano.....wtf were they thinking with that? LOL)
 
neiltc13 said:
Look on the bright side - you got a great looking machine. People who buy a MacBook Pro today have to put up with one of the ugliest designs Apple has ever shipped.
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I think the TiBook was the best looking apple laptop ever made. But the new unibodies come very close if not exceeding that design. Plus the TiBook had problems with paint chipping and hinges breaking. These new ones are stellar IMHO. :D
 
neiltc13 said:
Look on the bright side - you got a great looking machine. People who buy a MacBook Pro today have to put up with one of the ugliest designs Apple has ever shipped.
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How subjective. The old MBP also has a far inferior screen.


To be fair, you haven't noticed almost a year after the fact? Why get upset about it?
 
harcosparky said:
Now all of a sudden an update is released and they complain about how the notebook they bought and love last year sucks.
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i don't think my 9 month old classic MBP "sucks". Just that Apple suck - not putting a 3.0 SATA with my BTO SSD.
 
wow.

Ok first off as others are saying you haven't even noticed the fact that your mbp has SATA 1.5.

Secondly that was the current standard for mbp's at the time so its not like this case where the late '08 mbps had SATA 3.0 and then quietly switched over to the old interface again.

Thirdly the ssd that you bought from apple is so crappy and slow. Don't forget the stuttering issues. I am dumb founded as to why you would spend that much money on an SSD and not do any research on it. Clearly if you did do research you would have found numerous threads talking about how crappy the apple ssd's are.

Lastly do not ever post another thread.
 
OllyW said:
It has obviously made no difference to you over the last 9 months, why get bothered about it now?
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You're kidding, right?

Cancer doesn't influence someone's life until they find out about it, just like the difference SATA I/ SATA II hard drives! Except one situation is slightly more serious... you make the decision which one is more serious.
 
OllyW said:
It has obviously made no difference to you over the last 9 months, why get bothered about it now?
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it started me thinking why my XBench results were so crap after I got my Mac Pro with 250GB Vertex SSD. The benches were worlds apart.

I was too busy to investigate, I just thought the "Apple SSD" was not that fast. But now its clear. Not only is it a average-slow SSD in my CMBP but also b/c Apple halved the SATA speed effectively. So it restricts the potential of upgrading my machine to a faster spec SSD

Apart from this, I pretty much still love everything about my classic MBP :D
 
lol even my mac mini has 3gb sata, and it was a lot cheaper than a 17" mbp thats for sure
 
sparkie7 said:
it started me thinking why my XBench results were so crap after I got my Mac Pro with 250GB Vertex SSD. The benches were worlds apart.

I was too busy to investigate, I just thought the "Apple SSD" was not that fast. But now its clear. Not only is it a average-slow SSD in my CMBP but also b/c Apple halved the SATA speed effectively. So it restricts the potential of upgrading my machine to a faster spec SSD

Apart from this, I pretty much still love everything about my classic MBP :D
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Ok the apple ssd is so slow and crappy that it doesnt exceed the SATA 1.5 speed limit. If you would read the article on the front page then you would realize that you need a FAST SSD to push past the SATA 1.5 limit.
 
Battlefield Fan said:
wow.

Ok first off as others are saying you haven't even noticed the fact that your mbp has SATA 1.5.

Secondly that was the current standard for mbp's at the time so its not like this case where the late '08 mbps had SATA 3.0 and then quietly switched over to the old interface again.

Thirdly the ssd that you bought from apple is so crappy and slow. Don't forget the stuttering issues. I am dumb founded as to why you would spend that much money on an SSD and not do any research on it. Clearly if you did do research you would have found numerous threads talking about how crappy the apple ssd's are.

Lastly do not ever post another thread.
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1. yes i did notice it was slower in Jan of this year vs my Mac Pro

2. If thats true, then fair enough

3. At the time I ordered my 17 BTO, the SSD option was so new no one could have reported on any issues

So are you now the Queen of the internet forums? Get a grip

Battlefield Fan said:
Ok the apple ssd is so slow and crappy that it doesnt exceed the SATA 1.5 speed limit. If you would read the article on the front page then you would realize that you need a FAST SSD to push past the SATA 1.5 limit.
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Like I said, the SSD with the BTO option was so new no one new if it was "slow" and "crappy"
 
sparkie7 said:
1. yes i did notice it was slower in Jan of this year vs my Mac Pro

2. If thats true, then fair enough

3. At the time I ordered my 17 BTO, the SSD option was so new no one could have reported on any issues

So are you now the Queen of the internet forums? Get a grip
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At least I dont make uninformed purchases. Expesially ones that cost thousands of dollars. Thats what you get for buying a newly released product.

That makes you the guinea pig.
 
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