after my six year old daughter dropped it(on hardwood floor). I tried this: <command> <opt> <p> <r> Letting it chime 4 times. But, no luck - it just sits there witht the gray screen/dark gray apple logo and that thing twirling around like it's thinking. ********check that I've left it on and it has now worked its way to the blue screen. Cursor shows up and the twirling thing is gone(as are the little clicking noises inside like it's actually trying to do someting).******** Now you're really going to let me have it. I don't have any of my original disks. Guess I should take it to the Apple store and see what they say(no applecare). I was running Tiger(latest version) and the ibook G4 is a 1.33 with 768mb of ram if that matters. Luckily all my photo's and music are on my powerbook and mac mini. Thanks in advance if you can assist - even if your response is that I'm SOL!