UI Lag Performance/Recommendation

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  1. mattkidd macrumors regular

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    I was about to create a thread complaining about UI performance on the new Macbook (1.3 BTO). :(

    When switching screens, launching safari and general usage there was without doubt noticeable lag... Especially in comparison to my 2014 Macbook Air.

    Now.... A small recommendation to those who may also have the same experience.

    I have just enrolled this macbook into the BETA for 10.10.4 and installed the update. Whilst I don't know the ins and outs of this upgrade I can confirm the UI performance appears to have significantly improved. There's no longer any lag switching between screens and launching applications. Whilst its not butter smooth, its vastly improved and almost on par with the i7 Air.

    I don't know if this update included any performance fixes, none the less it has improved my experience. Id recommend you do the same.
     
  2. ct1211 macrumors 6502

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    i just remembered I took the beta on my 1.3 last week. the 1.3 flies, no question. Parallels and a lot of open windows docs photoshop still flies! almost as fast as my 2015 rMBP with i7!!
     
  3. tecnho macrumors 6502

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    UI Lag Performance/Recommendation


    Although you stated that you don't have a thorough grasp of the details of the 10.10.4, is there any generally noticeable differences in terms of the OS? (not necessarily lag related). Also, how do you enroll in the beta program, and what is required of someone that opts in?
     
  4. Maven1975 macrumors 6502a

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    I can confirm the same. The beta does help with UI issues and stability.
     
  5. headcase macrumors 6502

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    https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

    I personally haven't signed up for the beta program, although I'm curious to hear others post their results.
     
  6. MarkW19 macrumors 65816

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    I found turning on 'reduce transparency' in Accessibility System Preferences significantly improved the smoothness of the UI..
     
  7. Theophil1971 macrumors 6502

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    Good news about 10.10.4. Thanks for the tip!

    I think I'll wait for it to be out of beta, though, since this is my primary work machine.

    In general, how long after the first public beta does an official version release?
     
  8. Maven1975 macrumors 6502a

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    This should be pushed out shortly. There were not dramatic changes. Mostly Safari improvements. Although, there was other tweaks involved obviously because its showing improvements on my rMB.
     
  9. fatefulwhisper macrumors regular

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    While we're on the topic of betas and such, for those who are fans of Google Chrome, I strongly recommend that you install Chrome Canary (https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html) instead of using regular Chrome. The caveat is that it's beta and may be prone to crashing, but I've been using it for a week and a half now and it's pretty smooth (no crashes, zero issues). Plus they've fixed the battery/CPU utilization issues and UI rendering issues for the new rMB.

    I use multiple browsers on my rMB on a daily basis (as a web developer, I have to), and I've found that so far, Chrome Canary's latest build is a vast improvement over the current (older) stable version, and I've found that it's on par or better than Safari in terms of energy utilization. Of course, YMMV, so don't take my word for it. It works well for me, but may or may not work for you.
     
  10. Brookzy macrumors 68040

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  11. Theophil1971 macrumors 6502

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    Interesting. I just tried to reproduce this on my 1.2/512, and it's not nearly as laggy as your video.
    What model are you using there? 1.1?
    Are there other processes running in the background?
    Do you have lots of open Spaces running?
     
  12. bcaslis macrumors 68020

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    Serious? This is what people are moaning about? Holy cow. If this is your definition of lag, then yes I can see some maybe less. This is what people are calling unusable? Wow, just wow.
     
  13. brdeveloper macrumors 68020

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    Yes, it isn't buttery smooth.

    The good news is that it's a bit laggy even on my Early-2013 15" rMBP with discrete graphics enable. The bad news is, heck, it reminds me the times of Windows 95 when we had to tweak the registry to disable window animations.

    I have translucency disable on Yosemite, but can still note these glitches.
     
  14. legioxi macrumors 6502a

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    My thoughts exactly after watching that.
     
  15. brdeveloper macrumors 68020

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    I can agree with you, but I'd expect a buttery smooth experience. It seems that the OSX UI needs some kind of buffering techniques, like the Project Butter on Android phones. Another approach would be giving up those fancy effects (or at least allow us to disable them).
     
  16. Brookzy macrumors 68040

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    1.2

    No other applications or spaces open (aside from the Quicktime screen recorder, which did not impact the lag).

    It's certainly not unusable! I didn't say that. And people who did may have worse lag.

    Yeah I tried disabling translucency, no difference.

    If my 5K is silky-smooth, and my rMB jitters to the extent that I noticed it, then it's worth a mention.
     
  17. southerndoc macrumors 65816

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    People are getting way too bent out of shape over lag issues. Most of the videos I see have very minimal lag. So it stutters a bit when it goes from minimized to full screen. Are people spending all their time looking for lag instead of actually using their MacBook?

    The MacBook is designed for portability. It's not meant to run high-end graphics programs or fast games.

    Future buyers: if lag concerns you, then this is probably not the laptop for you. You are probably best served with a MacBook Pro. If lag doesn't concern you and you're looking for a light travel laptop, then this is perfect.
     
  18. Brookzy macrumors 68040

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    2015 rMBPs have lagging issues too.

    This isn't about performance; the UI isn't lagging because of a lack of resources. This is about software.

    Being able to maximise a window at more than 5fps shouldn't (and doesn't) require high-end graphics.
     
  19. Jetcat3 macrumors 6502

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    This instatnly fixed any sort of lag I was experiencing. Sure, it doesn't look as pretty but hopefully 10.10.4 will fix that and I can enable transparency. Love this little beauty!
     
  20. steinb macrumors newbie

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    Well, I just tried the same on my 4,0 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Retina iMac. It looks absolutely the same. Seems not to be a hardware problem!
     
  21. mattkidd thread starter macrumors regular

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    It's really strange.

    Just an update on this form my side: Seems the BETA was a short-term fix. Performance is once again becoming a struggle.

    Just switching between screens can be really painful at times. It's strange to see that some people have no issues at all whilst others are painfully slow.
     
  22. headcase macrumors 6502

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    Damn. I was hoping that 10.10.4 was the solution. There is a lag on my 1.2, and I'm holding out to see if my BTO 1.3 is any better.
     
  23. brdeveloper macrumors 68020

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    If an Android phone can, a Mac should also do. But I don't care with UI animations. It would be nice if we could turn all them off.
     
  24. Kiwi 99 macrumors regular

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    This.

    Also, check Activity Monitor to see if there's anything chewing up time and resources (especially CPU, and Network)

    I did a bit of that with my 1.2ghz, and it's running sweet and smooth
     
  25. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    i'd say that is hardy software.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ia3l0oWbY
     

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