And that would be the end of Apple's marketshare in desktops and notebooks.
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UK Chip Designer ARM to Be Acquired by Japan's Softbank for $31.4B
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And that would be the end of Apple's marketshare in desktops and notebooks.
We have seen this before.
It's easy to say that based on how Google managed and destroyed it like they do with most acquisitions.
Had Apple bought Nest, I'm sure they would have been a lot more successful.
The design was good but it lacked good, reliable software and Homekit support.
I'm not even sure Apple is interested in computers anymore. They have worked it there is much bigger profit in an iPad with a keyboard , classed as a laptop replacement .
An entry Apple laptop costs about the same as a iPad Pro with adequate storage. Much much bigger profit in the iPad
Something does not add up here.
I see the "fans" are out in force stating that the chips Apple designs from scratch kick the butt of anything ARM can manage.
Poses a questions does it not.........
So why is not Apple raking in the cash selling chip designs like ARM does?
It's a no brainer isn't it?
ARM is (apparently) rubbish. Apple is Amazing.
And yet, ARM keep designing all the chips for people year after year.
Puzzling huh?
I see the "fans" are out in force stating that the chips Apple designs from scratch kick the butt of anything ARM can manage.
Poses a questions does it not.........
So why is not Apple raking in the cash selling chip designs like ARM does?
It's a no brainer isn't it?
ARM is (apparently) rubbish. Apple is Amazing.
And yet, ARM keep designing all the chips for people year after year.
Puzzling huh?
Arm couldn't go to apple or Samsung et al. That would be suicidal. The main reason for its success is that it has allowed companies like Qualcomm and Apple the ability to design their own chips in a level playing field. If any of the OEM's owned arm I doubt it would bode well for future business as all its clients would be supicious.
I think SoftBank are just diversifying their business portfolio. Doesn't seem to be much of a coherent plan other than to just own successful companies. nothing wrong with that and probably the most decent of all takeover proposals because there probably isn't any synergy between companies they already hold. So it's business as usual and the profits go to Japan. Maybe the pound being a bit lower saved them a few hundred million so why not...
I think SoftBank are just diversifying their business portfolio. Doesn't seem to be much of a coherent plan other than to just own successful companies. nothing wrong with that and probably the most decent of all takeover proposals because there probably isn't any synergy between companies they already hold. So it's business as usual and the profits go to Japan. Maybe the pound being a bit lower saved them a few hundred million so why not...
Not puzzling at all.
Apple is keeping their own designs for themselves. Just like they keep iOS and OS X to themselves (instead of licensing it out).
BTW, please show me any smartphone in the world that Samsung allows to use their Exynos processors. Very puzzling indeed.
Did you even read the article?
Following the announcement of today's deal, ARM said it would keep its headquarters in Cambridge and double the number of its staff over the next five years. Softbank also intends to preserve the UK tech firm's organization, including its existing senior management structure and partnership-based business model.
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Try reading the article.
Because almost all of the potential customers for Apple's chip designs are Apple's competitors for products that are even more profitable than chips. Plus Apple would have to expose some of their trade secrets if they gave buyer's full specs.
That's something I didn't know.
Regardless, my point still stands. Apple wants to keep the good stuff they develop for themselves. And they still have the best ARM micro-architecture in the world. Why let competitors use your best technology?
It's no wonder British companies are bought right now... Thanks to the stupidity of the brexit vote the pound has lost 30% against the Yen.No wonder, or wouldn't you buy at a bargain discount of 30%?
Brexit stupidity
So SoftBank worked the deal to buy ARM since June 23, right? A little over three weeks to work out a major business deal is a fairly incredible feat for a major company.
The sale negotiations process started a *long* time before the Brexit vote in all probability.
Always makes me smile when I read about ARM making the chips for Apple.
when the Fan's all scream "Apple makes it's own chips from scratch"
ARM doesn't make the chips for Apple. Clueless comment.
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Not funny.
And I own a palace in England you can buy dirt cheap from me for only one millionth of the value!
Down the line, ARM can be moved piece-meal to Japan or Bangladesh, it has happened before.
Hope I am wrong, and they move to the USA instead. Ha!
Yep, cos that’s all there is to building a house. Sigh…...
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Doing something in theory is quite often only half the battle. If you can’t see that you’ll never be good at either the theory or the practice.
Apple did own ARM. Well around 33% of it anyway.
Long live Acorn RISC Machines.
Long live my BBC Model B
Sorry, you are still 100% wrong. BTW, you're the one who brought up the analogy of a house, so I simply expanded on that for you. A better example would be a skyscraper. It would take an entire team of architects and engineers (and very expensive simulation software running on workstations) to design a modern skyscraper. It requires experts in fields ranging from materials (how much strength can a steel beam of a certain dimension and shape handle) all the way to aerodynamics engineers who wind tunnel test the final design. But in the end it's still assembled by ordinary trade workers (concrete, carpenters, plumbers and so on).
The "smart" work is done during the design phase. Once that's finished, the assembly is the easy part. Just like it is with processors where you could have a team of 1,000 engineers spend 2 years developing a processor whereas the fab (TSMC or Samsung) can ramp up production of said processor in a couple months with a fraction of the employees.
BTW, why are you talking about "theory"? Apples A7-9 processors are real items in production now. There's no theory behind them or the work it took to develop them or the fact they are more advanced than anything Samsung, Qualcomm or ARM is making. This is all fact.
Except you're discounting the work that goes into creating an effective fabrication process. If it were "easy" or if any "baboon" could do it - then there would be a lot more companies who could and Apple wouldn't need to rely on a very small pool.
I am not discounting the chip design work. But I also wouldn't discount the engineering and work involved in fabrication as easily as you have or are willing to. They both play a very important role.
You’ve obviously sat behind a desk all your life and not actually put anything together except a snide reply.
I'm getting fed-up of this, build something great then sell to the highest non-UK entity, this sell everything mentality is frustrating!
Congratulations to Arm and their shareholders though.
Congratulations to Arm and their shareholders though.
