do they make kids read “1984” there as a vision of what an amazing future they have ahead of them?
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UK Government Readies Anti-Encryption Publicity Campaign to 'Keep Children Safe' Online
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Ah yes, a new attempt to deflect public attention from the Boris and his crimes. Just like last weekend’s attack on the BBC, etc.
I said "modern propaganda", not the origins of propaganda. The scope and effectiveness of the UK's WWI propaganda had theretofore never been done in the history of mankind. And Godwin's law doesn't apply since Adolf Hitler himself directly referenced the subject matter I'm speaking to, ie the UK's WWI propaganda campaign.I hereby invoke Godwin's Law!
Anyway, you're wrong about the origins of "political propaganda":
The Secret History Of Political Propaganda - Database Football
Propaganda, or the purposeful transmission of information designed to persuade and influence primarily through emotion rather than fact-based debate, is used in many social fields: marketing, religion, and politics each rely on propaganda to persuade and inform consumers, congregants, citizens...sciencetrends.com
These are weighty topics - please give them more than a perfunctory, memeish few seconds of consideration before replying in the manner you did.
Guns are designed to hurt living things, they are weapons. Encryption is designed to protect information. They are different kind of tools. Your post was basically saying that wearing a mask during robbery making it hard to find the criminal so that we should ban masks.
Of course it’s not to spy you, it’s to protect the children.
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
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other than the dah factor, while this argument is completely valid, how does it justify the loss of the right to privacy? Sure only bad guys will be targeted, not political opponents, no corrupt cops will use information meant to be private (and totally legal). Yah right!
think of alternatives. 1) Minors must consent to the parents having the decryption key. Ok, not fool proof but a start.
I totally get the law enforcement desire to pass 100% of email and messaging traffic, phone calls, etc, through a big brother filter and look for evidence of illegal activity, but does anyone seriously condone that loss of freedom?
I can simplify their campaign: “Let us read all of your personal communications. Please? It’s for the kids. You can trust us.”
But seriously, I love the implicit false pretense that folks hiding illegal behavior won’t resort to some of the other very easy to use, universal encryption tools (like PGP) to communicate if E2E is for some reason made unavailable.
But seriously, I love the implicit false pretense that folks hiding illegal behavior won’t resort to some of the other very easy to use, universal encryption tools (like PGP) to communicate if E2E is for some reason made unavailable.
It should be pointed out for non UK people, that the Home Office is a completely dysfunctional department that couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag. Ill-informed scare stories is right up their street but they are so crushingly incompetent (like much of the UK public sector) that I don't think this is anything to worry about.
But you'd just replace them with a separate shower of *****. The idea that the Labour Party with its cranks and nutters would be noticeably better is delusional.
The real issue is the Civil Service - you dont have to be a psychopath like Cummings to realise that the Civil Service is just useless and incapable of delivery.
Pedophrasty
"Argument involving children to prop up a rationalization and make the opponent look like an *******, as people are defenseless and suspend all skepticism in front of suffering children: nobody has the heart to question the authenticity or source of the reporting. Often done with the aid of pictures."Any1 using children for any sort of campaign, just please, FFS, stop.
10p says government officials and all their bedfellows will retain the ability to use encrypted channels of communication.
This is honestly going to cause so much damage to everyones overall safety online if the government make it illegal to use technology that uses end to end encryption.
The problem here is they'll use the reputation of Facebook to push this making it very easy whilst also making the public less safe because everything will be more easily hackable.
Meanwhile, people involved in child sexual abuse online will continue to use end to end encrypted technology to try and get away with their crimes.
This literally only hurts the law abiding citizens. The Tories continuing their plan on destroying this country whilst idiots continue to vote for them. It makes me sick.
The problem here is they'll use the reputation of Facebook to push this making it very easy whilst also making the public less safe because everything will be more easily hackable.
Meanwhile, people involved in child sexual abuse online will continue to use end to end encrypted technology to try and get away with their crimes.
This literally only hurts the law abiding citizens. The Tories continuing their plan on destroying this country whilst idiots continue to vote for them. It makes me sick.
The same British government who ignored the pedophile grooming gangs?
As a general rule, whenever you see "save the children" you're being scammed.
As a general rule, whenever you see "save the children" you're being scammed.
Well people should take it seriously because that is the problem with the UK at the moment, the government, charities, councils and other child protection and welfare groups are using the excuse of 'think of the children' to erode everyone's privacy and if anyone dares to stand up for the rights to privacy, all of the mentioned then go on the attack and say 'so, you put the rights of privacy ahead of that of protecting the safety of children?'. Then the UK's media lambast defenders of right to privacy by accusing them of not putting the safety of children first.
The US has the NRA which is a very very powerful group that defends the rights of gun owners. When it comes to children, the UK has an extremely powerful group called the NSPCC (a childrens charity) which over the years has sucessfully lobbied government many many times to create laws and ammend others so that the rights, safety and welfare of children are protected. It is them who pushed the government into investigating child related crimes and out of these investigations it has been found that those who do harm to children use devices that have end to end encryption on them so if they can avoid detection.
If the NSPCC continue to push for protection of children, the issue of end to end encryption will not go away. As far as they are concerned, protection of children trumps that of everything else, even privacy.
That is what they say until they get the power. Then, they realize that same power can be used for political purposes. This is the real problem; the actual, but un-talked about real results. Do they plan it this way? Who knows. But for sure we know through 100s of years of history about government corruption that they will sure use the tool when it is available.
Surveillance is the lifeblood of governments. 1984 got here when the internet was born and governments realized they were losing power to it. The free and open flow of information is toxic to governments, even the so-called democratic ones. They crouch behind the false premise of public safety, in this case the safety of the children, when they really want to maintain power over the populace. End-to-end encryption is an existential threat to their power and they will do, say, proclaim anything to convince the people that it’s evil.
Well, I’m glad the overall tone on this forum is firmly against this. I just hope we can get loud enough to drown out the half million quid that the government is putting into it. Otherwise the uneducated will fall for it.
The conservatives and the Far Right wants all your data.
They want to end safe browsing and messaging.
They want to put all your financial data on public ledgers so they can spy and control your behaviour and feed your personal spending into algos and ads.
But their rich donors and wealthy offshore class will make sure they are the only ones who won't be transparent.
They want to end safe browsing and messaging.
They want to put all your financial data on public ledgers so they can spy and control your behaviour and feed your personal spending into algos and ads.
But their rich donors and wealthy offshore class will make sure they are the only ones who won't be transparent.