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aaarrrggghhh!

its always difficult!!! The new £30 tarrif offers the mins/texts i want (+plus the unlimited data etc) but i thought would be £25 maybe even £20. The jumps from £35 to £45 are much bigger than from £30 to £35.....

I pay about £8 per month on payg now (inc cloud wifi) so need to 'find' £22 per month...... hoping to sell my 8gb iPod Touch to cover the iPhone cost.

If thats the case, you might be advised to see what the iPhone Pay as You Go details will be? Might work out better for you?
 
If thats the case, you might be advised to see what the iPhone Pay as You Go details will be? Might work out better for you?

agreed - wonder when they will confirm these prices.....

I suppose I just expect the initial outlay will be too much, plus i would want the unlimited data package. But lets wait and see....
 
Tarifs would be stuck for the minimum 18 months - this is standard practice already. After 18 months, you've effectively paid for your subsidised iPhone and are free to move around or cancel as you wish.

I don't think it could have been a sweeter deal though. I was going to probably plump for the £35/month 16GB Black (£159/35 for 600 mins) although for all the minutes to the missus I'm going to up to the £45/month option for 1200 minutes. It's only £180 more for the 18-month term but I save £100 off the base price and double my minutes.

I don't think many people in the UK can complain.

Make sure you register your interest on the O2 website this morning. If there is likely to be a shortage, I for one want to be one of the first in line come July 11th!!! :D
 
I don't think it could have been a sweeter deal though. I was going to probably plump for the £35/month 16GB Black (£159/35 for 600 mins) although for all the minutes to the missus I'm going to up to the £45/month option for 1200 minutes. It's only £180 more for the 18-month term but I save £100 off the base price and double my minutes.

Well yes it could be a sweeter tariff. O2 Simplicity deals give you unlimited O2 to O2 calls which would solve your "yacking to the bird" cost, plus you can get unlimited data for £7.50 or inclusive from the £25 tariffs upwards (which give you 600 mins/1000 texts). I don't think you need to (currently) "unlock" either to use this.

Remember once the shine of a new phone wears off (and it will wear off rather quickly with that glossy scratch magnet plastic ;) ) the real cost is the tariff you're on. 18 month lock-in? No thanks.
 
Steve Jobs probably did mean, as everyone seems to be assuming, that when he said the 3G iPhone would cost a maximum of $199 worldwide that he meant like for like - the 8 GB with a contract. But who knows. Looks like O2 have a few weeks to mull over the best price to put on the Pay & Go version. If they price it at £99 or somewhere below £150, then they'll have my money straightaway.

I realize that at this price the iPod Touch would have to come down as well, but at the same time P&G users may find they use the iPhone more than they expected and turn into contract users. So it might not be as bad a sales ploy as it sounds - having said that Virgin Mobile make peanuts from me, but then a base model Nokia isn't very exciting to use.
 
Hard to see how it won't be £279 for PAYG in line with old price - ie fully unsubsidised, but we can wait and see. Could well be some offers further down the line too, especially around Xmas time.

Other interesting point I read for upgrades is that they can only be done online at o2.co.uk from July 11th. Looks like if you are an existing iPhone user you can't walk into an o2 store on July 11th and walk out with a shiny new 3g baby. Order online and get a few days later looks to be the way.

http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/existingiphonecustomers

This special early upgrade offer is only available online at o2.co.uk anytime from 11th July until 11th October 2008.
 
its that price on a contract - no way it will be that cheap payg, my guess is £200 -250.

I don't think that its been decided yet. But I cant wait to hear. My more "realistic" (and pessimistic) prediction is that the iPhone will be perhaps £199, the current price of the iPod Touch and that the price of the Touch will come down. You have to remember though that PAYG are thrifty people who don't crave the same predictability as contract users but do expect exceptional value for money. They are two distinct species.
 
Anyone know whether a Simplicity sim card will work without further ado in the PAYG version?

I ask because for £25 a month (as mentioned by drlunanerd above) you can have 600 minutes talktime, 1000 texts, and opt to have unlimited data as your no cost bolt-on. As Larry David would say: "Pretty, pretteeeee, good". :)

That's assuming of course that the PAYG version comes in at no more than £250 or so.
 
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Currently the most expensive Pay & Go phone (K850i) is £239 on O2 but the next most expensive is £169 (Samsung G600):

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I am the first to admit that the iPhone has more features (although less megapixels on the camera), but if the new phone is going to be "affordable" then it needs to find a place in the current cost bracket.

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I don't think that its been decided yet. But I cant wait to hear. My more "realistic" (and pessimistic) prediction is that the iPhone will be perhaps £199, the current price of the iPod Touch and that the price of the Touch will come down. You have to remember though that PAYG are thrifty people who don't crave the same predictability as contract users but do expect exceptional value for money. They are two distinct species.
This is surely the least amount of money it will be. And remember, for that "excellent value for money" they are getting a decent and much-sought-after piece of kit.

Currently the most expensive Pay & Go phone (K850i) is £239 on O2 but the next most expensive is £169 (Samsung G600):

I am the first to admit that the iPhone has more features (although less megapixels on the camera), but if the new phone is going to be "affordable" then it needs to find a place in the current cost bracket.
...without cannibalising the iPod... It will be expensive on pay & go for this reason - otherwise you could just get pay & go and then not use it as a phone, save for the odd call every 6 months to keep it active. Plus, it is a nifty bit of kit, won't be cheap. :apple:
 
Also just seen this: http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/paymonthly/boltons

Bolt-ons are valid for the new iPhone (i.e. pay £7.50 a month more and you can choose extra packages - e.g. cheaper international calls, etc).

But interestingly it says you can have a free bolt-on on tariffs of 600 mins or more with contracts longer than 12 months (that means every iPhone contract other than the base £30/month plan!). Extra freebie?
 
Also just seen this: http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/paymonthly/boltons

Bolt-ons are valid for the new iPhone (i.e. pay £7.50 a month more and you can choose extra packages - e.g. cheaper international calls, etc).

But interestingly it says you can have a free bolt-on on tariffs of 600 mins or more with contracts longer than 12 months (that means every iPhone contract other than the base £30/month plan!). Extra freebie?

I think you've misread that page, which says:

These Bolt Ons are available to new and upgrading customers (excluding iPhone customers)
 
I'm pretty excited about the Pay As You Go introduction, but won't they charge additional fees for accessing stuff like the internet over 3G?

If there is a charge for that on top of an inflated cost for the device itself over a contract deal then it might prove even costlier.

Hmm...
 
I'm pretty excited about the Pay As You Go introduction, but won't they charge additional fees for accessing stuff like the internet over 3G?

If there is a charge for that on top of an inflated cost for the device itself over a contract deal then it might prove even costlier.

Hmm...

Historically PAYG in the UK has never been a cheap option, either for the hardware or the call and data charges. It's just a convenient way for some to control their call charges within pre-determined limits.

Sadly, I fear that the O2 PAYG iPhone 3G will not be a cheap option. Even if it doesn't cost a small fortune to buy I suspect that the usage charges will be a rip-off.

I really hope that I'm wrong on this, but we will see.
 
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