What does being cynical even mean? Unless you are going to alter your relationship with the company why even be cynical?
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UK Legal Action Seeks Damages for 25 Million iPhone Users Over 'Throttling' Devices With Degraded Batteries
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As the saying goes, grab the popcorn and see what happens. It will be 5 years before this is settled, imo.
Except with Apple it's so big that it could do anything again. Sure maybe some people are due some compensation due to lost time struggling with a slow phone.
So according to the internet https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-lm&q=how+many+6s+phones+were+sold there were 77 million iphones sold and 1 caught fire for a percentage of: 1.3e-6%. So what again is the point of the above?You mean like this? 🤣
Totally worth paying more for state of art and high quality iPhones, a proper QM and decent testing could have avoided this. Maybe they just tried to hide how bad their hardware is?!
Also a nice way to enforce hardware upgrades, just let the old device explode while updating iOS.
Planed obsolescence²
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There has to be a balance between performance and availability.
For a phone, I would rather prefer availability over performance.
Must have been Macbooks passing this as a feature. Most Windows laptops will work just fine at 100% performance even without a battery, if plugged to the wall of course.
Not the same as FORCED throttling.
The issue was Apple forcing the throttling due to using low quality batteries with the 6 and 6s that couldn’t handle normal degradation.
Battery caused CPU throttling was not a thing with previous iPhones.
In the US and Apple has still not paid the “settled” claim for $150 with my family’s 3 throttled iPhones, which seems to be over a year now since announced.
Yet Meta/Facebook announced settling for almost $400 per claim regarding their issue and myself & a family member have already received our checks.
Can someone explain to me with objective proof with why Apple has not paid yet? Serious replies only please.
Thanks.
Yet Meta/Facebook announced settling for almost $400 per claim regarding their issue and myself & a family member have already received our checks.
Can someone explain to me with objective proof with why Apple has not paid yet? Serious replies only please.
Thanks.
Too many people are looking for an easy out… they are dismissing things and people by calling them conspiracy theories, but are never to be heard from again if and when it turns out it was true all along… there have been lots of those recently, and the tin foil hat wearers are beginning to look like the smarter ones of the bunch.
Jeez, this. Yawn.......
So, just some cursory research would have made it plain to you that whilst Apple were doing this, 'Geniuses' were NOT always telling their customers that a simple battery change would alleviate the issue. In fact in a lot of cases they were telling them they needed new phone. I'm sure you can see the difference in price.
In addition some clients with a degraded battery were being refused a battery change.
No, any device that doesn’t adjust performance based on battery health will have this issue. Apple is simply the only one being blamed for it.
Sadly it’s not rapidly. It’s been a problem for years now. The forum is filled with trolls who hate Apple and just complain about everything Apple does. It’s mind boggling why people who hate Apple so much spend so much time thinking about it, but here we are.
When it comes to life and danger, 1.3e-6% is 1.3e-6% too much, every life matters and this could have ended with death if happened at night.
Statically downplaying accidents, does not make it better, life matters even one of million.
Anyway, we know that this didn't happen just once.
There is no other brand smartphone on the market whose peak performance dropped 50% on degraded batteries.
Really? You must be aghast at the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 issues then. Unfortunately things fail and we as humans should shoot for perfection, but we should be willing to accept good and then strive for better, because perfection never comes.
So don't go into hypothetical hyperbole as that leap is very easily made.
Did the U.S. class action suit ever pay out? I entered three devices back in 2020 and haven't heard anything since 😆
+1 for recalc, just another "individual" case...
Man claims iPhone X exploded in his pocket, sues Apple for second-degree burns
Apple iPhone X allegedly exploded inside the pant's pocket a man was wearing causing him burns.
Yeah, sure, but Samsung immediately stopped the sales of the Galaxy Note 7 worldwide, called out to stop using and return all sold devices with 100% money back, and offered a discount on replacement devices.
While Apple statically downplays it, just like you did, and continues to sell their crap as if nothing happened, then add software throttling to hide the issues of their bad engineered hardware.
iPhones had battery issues for many years, simply as that, but Apple does not admit it.
In my opinion they should be happy that this is only about software throttling, and not about willful negligence and about putting peoples life in danger, yet.
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That wasn’t the issue. The issue was Apple was artificially throttling the devices and (after getting caught) argued they were proactively doing it because of battery health. People can and have argued that it was simply an underhanded way for Apple to make older devices perform poorly so upgrading would be more attractive. Considering Apple benefitted financially from giving an incentive to upgrade by doing this, it’s kind of hard for them to argue this was done for altruistic reasons.
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That's part of the problem when companies get too big. While bigger, wealthier companies may be less impacted by these sorts of things, especially from a payout standpoint, it can still be worth it by also discouraging other companies from doing similar things. The potential or threat of legal actions and/or the results of other cases can help to keep more companies "better behaved" according to the law.
Sure, companies big and small may still try to push the envelope, cross the line, hope they don't get caught, try to fight it if they do get caught, etc. but the more often they are held responsible (when appropriate) whether it be through government antitrust cases, class action lawsuits, or whatever, the better it can be for consumers, open and fair competition, etc.
Correct. You and I are not in charge of planes falling out of the sky, car crashes, lightning strikes, earth quakes, etc. Please don't get a nosebleed on that soapbox.+1 for recalc, just another "individual" case...
Man claims iPhone X exploded in his pocket, sues Apple for second-degree burns
Apple iPhone X allegedly exploded inside the pant's pocket a man was wearing causing him burns.www.indiatoday.in
Yeah, sure, but Samsung immediately stopped the sales of the Galaxy Note 7 worldwide, called out to stop using and return all sold devices with 100% money back, and offered a discount on replacement devices.
While Apple statically downplays it, just like you did, and continues to sell their crap as if nothing happened, then add software throttling to hide the issues of their bad engineered hardware.
iPhones had battery issues for many years, simply as that, but Apple does not admit it.
In my opinion they should be happy that this is only about software throttling, and not about willful negligence and about putting peoples life in danger, yet.
Not sure you can actually find an example of lithium batteries not catching fire. While hopefully manufacturers design items safely in this modern society, things happen.
I personally, in this case, don't see an issue, and I was in the category of people who had the software affect the phone. Maybe it was a crummy thing for Apple to do, but that is where it ends for me, at crummy.
The problem is - they should've been transparent about it. When consumers asked Apple (I saw support case screenshots online years ago - no link, sorry) if they throttled iPhones, they said no.
Then when it started getting more focus and pressure, Apple actually released a statement stating that they were doing this. It took further pressure to actually disclose which operating system version they snuck it into.
If they had just been up front in the software release notes for that version, with the option to disable it from the get go - this would have all been avoided, and most would have considered it a useful feature.
Then when it started getting more focus and pressure, Apple actually released a statement stating that they were doing this. It took further pressure to actually disclose which operating system version they snuck it into.
If they had just been up front in the software release notes for that version, with the option to disable it from the get go - this would have all been avoided, and most would have considered it a useful feature.
Sure it happens, but it's about more how companies handle these accidents.
We sadly will have a lot more of it in the future once the e-Cars sales starts flying.
Laws, clearance and approvals should become overall more strict in reference to this, and judgements harder.
Once it starts burning you don't get it extinguished anymore, you have to let it burn out.