UK Legal Action Seeks Damages for 25 Million iPhone Users Over 'Throttling' Devices With Degraded Batteries

[P_Watt]

I'm sure I had my 6S battery replaced, courtesy of Apple at the time. Maybe a recall?
Either way, never had a problem with that phone. I used it for years.

It was offered either for £25 or free but they kept it relatively quiet. it was fetch not push, Personally I bought my 6S from a well known UK reseller in 2018 so too late, and chances of a new payout for me are minimal. And in any case I just replaced the battery at Apple Store for £49 and yes it is better than the original. We live and learn.
The idea of compensating iPhone X owners is fantasy.

 

[BootsWalking]

And why?

Because they’ve always been throttling? Or because they just let the phone shutdown?

Because their processors are had lower peak current demands. This changed with the processor on the iPhone 6.

 

[BootsWalking]

All devices can potentially shutdown and throttle with the last few percent of battery life, even some laptops.

The iPhone 6 shutdowns weren't unique to a depleted battery. Mine would shutdown with 50% capacity remaining.

 

[BootsWalking]

False. Performance will degrade anyway when batteries are degraded or depleted because the CPU/GPU can no longer be fed the right amount of power. There’s no unicorn magic hardware that exists to avoid this.

The only work around is to detect the state of the batteries, reduce clock speed relative to the battery’s condition and maybe disable graphical effects.

Please name any other phone where performance dropped by 50% on aged batteries.

 

[webkit]

Sure, and here is some interesting reading. The aphorism: "win some lose some", definitely applies here. As the link below shows, not all class action suits stand and some are declassed.

That goes without saying but in the "Consumer Class Actions" section listed on that Wikipedia page, all decided cases appear to have Apple losing outright or agreeing to a settlement. Both of those outcomes can be considered victories for the suing parties and their law firms.

 

[I7guy]

That goes without saying but in the "Consumer Class Actions" section listed on that Wikipedia page, all decided cases appear to have Apple losing outright or agreeing to a settlement. Both of those outcomes can be considered victories for the suing parties and their law firms.

Sure. Win-some lose some definitely applies here. Large companies are sued (as a fact of life and cost of doing business) and the plaintiffs win some and lose some.

Like the (in)famous FaceTime bug lawsuit that was dismissed. And companies sometimes settle for many reasons - settling doesn’t necessarily mean the suit taught a company a lesson.

 

[SlaveToSwift]

The iPhone 6 shutdowns weren't unique to a depleted battery. Mine would shutdown with 50% capacity remaining.

The battery didn’t have 50% capacity remaining. Degraded batters misreport capacity.

 

[SlaveToSwift]

iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus, SE, 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus and iPhone X models

That's a lot of phone models. I'm going with it's not just the battery, but the internals that degrade over time, too.

You’d be misunderstanding how “the internals” work.

 

[ct2k7]

So... a $1 iTunes credit for the user while the lawyers are collecting thousands if not more?

I mean of course, Apple was at fault by not telling anyone they're doing it. But now that there's battery health percentage and Apple being transparent about battery replacement costs, I think it's a done deal.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion... especially that the UK's currency isn't the USD.

 

[BootsWalking]

The battery didn’t have 50% capacity remaining. Degraded batters misreport capacity.

LOL, no. There was no major issue with the calibration of the battery capacity. In fact Apple relied on the logic for the workaround to know when to throttle the phone.

 

[SlaveToSwift]

LOL, no. There was no major issue with the calibration of the battery capacity. In fact Apple relied on the logic for the workaround to know when to throttle the phone.

Those are two different algorithms.

 

[BootsWalking]

Those are two different algorithms.

There's no issue with the charge-left calibration, otherwise the percentage charge left would be wrong even with the throttle code in place.

 

[t0rqx]

This degrading is still going on. The most recent model will have a small performance degradation when the next iPhone comes out. You cannot tell me that this is because the chip is just “1 year old”.

 

[I7guy]

This degrading is still going on. The most recent model will have a small performance degradation when the next iPhone comes out. You cannot tell me that this is because the chip is just “1 year old”.

What degrading is going on? You’re predicting the iPhone 14 will be degraded out of the box?

 

[rmariboe]

This level of greed is no better than finding loopholes for tax evasion.
I though the European justice systems were better than for this to be possible 😒

 

[rmariboe]

All batteries degrade with age. Only the iPhone had a widespread shutdown problem when running with degraded batteries

The Androids and Symbians I’ve used in my time have all experienced power crashes and/or power throttling; it’s inevitable when your battery can’t deliver the required voltage 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[BootsWalking]

The Androids and Symbians I’ve used in my time have all experienced power crashes and/or power throttling; it’s inevitable when your battery can’t deliver the required voltage 🤷🏽‍♂️

It's only inevitable when the processor on the phone requires more peak power than what even a degraded battery can deliver. iPhone processors are 40% larger than the processors on Android devices.

 

[adrianlondon]

Still have my 6S as a backup phone. When this all first came to light, and Apple gave reduced-price replacement batteries, I took advantage and paid Fr.29 (£25) for one.

That was in December 2018 (I waited until a few days before the offer ended). If Apple UK ends up giving me a few £ I'll take it - I won't refuse - but if they win the case then that's fine too. It'll only be a token amount anyway.

 

[Admiralbison]

SO many Apple shareholders here defending and excusing Apple corporation from EVERYTHING…

consumer rights
developers, third party fair business practices
Apple worker compensation and unionization efforts
price gauging
foreign child workers
Taxes loopholes
anti-trust measures around the world
wall garden and monopoly app stores
lightening ports



FICTIONAL corporations Weylund-Yutanni and Omni-Corpo don’t have the amount of apologists Apple has.

 

[t0rqx]

What degrading is going on? You’re predicting the iPhone 14 will be degraded out of the box?

iPhone 13 performing a tad worse than the 14 with general use in iOS.

 

[Jackpaultechnab]

It’s a shame that a feature that fixed the annoying random shut down on high CPU on degraded batteries is still be battled. I was thankful for this feature. I remember older iPhones I had would die at 30% under high CPU load leaving me cut off from my phone.

 

[I7guy]

SO many Apple shareholders here defending and excusing Apple corporation from EVERYTHING…

consumer rights
developers, third party fair business practices
Apple worker compensation and unionization efforts
price gauging
foreign child workers
Taxes loopholes
anti-trust measures around the world
wall garden and monopoly app stores
lightening ports



FICTIONAL corporations Weylund-Yutanni and Omni-Corpo don’t have the amount of apologists Apple has.

Yup. Buy some stock and join the crowd.

 

[I7guy]

iPhone 13 performing a tad worse than the 14 with general use in iOS.

Probably, due to the iphone 14 being faster.

 

[mrochester]

The issue was Apple forcing the throttling due to using low quality batteries with the 6 and 6s that couldn’t handle normal degradation.

Battery caused CPU throttling was not a thing with previous iPhones.

How do we know this?

 

[Sorig]

How do we know this?

Read the article.