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UK Price Increases - Your Thoughts
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garybUK
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But were not talking about Energy or Oil here, these are consumer products and the fact they have priced a lot of people out surely is detrimental to their financial viability.
This is surely another sign all apple are interested in is the iPhone market. Vote with your feet (or rather mouse clicks) people.
This is surely another sign all apple are interested in is the iPhone market. Vote with your feet (or rather mouse clicks) people.
emotion
macrumors 68040
I was considering selling my nearly 3 year old iMac and getting a new one this month before my applecare runs out. Now I definitely won't be buying a new iMac, just got to decide whether to keep my old one or build a hackintosh myself.
Whichever option I end up doing Apple loses my money. It's a shame really as I can afford any mac I choose, I just won't be ripped off - especially in a recession when I can spend that money more wisely.
Whichever option I end up doing Apple loses my money. It's a shame really as I can afford any mac I choose, I just won't be ripped off - especially in a recession when I can spend that money more wisely.
It's quite simple. I've never purchased a new Apple computer. I likely never will. They're too expensive. Refurb's every time.
This just reinforces that view, and takes my likelyhood of ever buying new apple hardware - to near zero.
Dell machines have not gone through the roof price wise. Indeed, for £150 less than a Mac Mini, you can buy a machine with 50% more ram, 100% more HDD space, 50% faster CPU, proper discreet graphics and a BR drive.
It's just Apple that's still shafting people.
That tells you something.
This just reinforces that view, and takes my likelyhood of ever buying new apple hardware - to near zero.
Dell machines have not gone through the roof price wise. Indeed, for £150 less than a Mac Mini, you can buy a machine with 50% more ram, 100% more HDD space, 50% faster CPU, proper discreet graphics and a BR drive.
It's just Apple that's still shafting people.
That tells you something.
probably being to kind to apple here but....
have the really increased prices that much on the iMacs?
Before yesteday I was looking at getting the base level 24" cost was some where in the £11xx. Today, the base 24" is £1199, with more memory & HDD space with possibly poorer graphics. Seems to me (in the UK) they have basically removed the base level 20", and added higher end models in (i suppose these look rather higher - but are you getting more now for the money?).
What "got my goat" was when I read the headline from Tim Cook saying "you can now get the base 24" for the price of the high 20"" - only to discover that wasnt the case for me!
I suspect I am being kind as I need a new iMac and am trying not to feel like I am being conned!
have the really increased prices that much on the iMacs?
Before yesteday I was looking at getting the base level 24" cost was some where in the £11xx. Today, the base 24" is £1199, with more memory & HDD space with possibly poorer graphics. Seems to me (in the UK) they have basically removed the base level 20", and added higher end models in (i suppose these look rather higher - but are you getting more now for the money?).
What "got my goat" was when I read the headline from Tim Cook saying "you can now get the base 24" for the price of the high 20"" - only to discover that wasnt the case for me!
I suspect I am being kind as I need a new iMac and am trying not to feel like I am being conned!
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
I think the sad fact is that its not that we're being ripped off by apple but by the exchange rate. Although, apple has done the usual of removing the base config and introducing a higher one, in the mac mini, but I really don't know what has happened to the imac line, in the british prices its gone from being one of the most value line to being ,imho, seriously not good value
Strangely the laptop lines look to be the best value, especially the refurb MB Pros
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Strangely the laptop lines look to be the best value, especially the refurb MB Pros
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Fortunately for the Mac Pro configuration that I want (Quad Core/4870/Airport) I can save £330 with my student discount.
This puts the price at slightly less than the £1800 which was the old 8-core with 8800GT.
I know its a quad vs. octo difference but people have said that the new quad core can outperform the older octo core.
The price increase sucks but I don't think there's anything we can do about it.
This puts the price at slightly less than the £1800 which was the old 8-core with 8800GT.
I know its a quad vs. octo difference but people have said that the new quad core can outperform the older octo core.
The price increase sucks but I don't think there's anything we can do about it.
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
what has puzzled me most though is the increase what you try and up the clock speed on the Mac Pro, that to me seems to be the biggest clock increase per pound I have seen from apple
I know this is reflected in the high cost of the chips but spec'ing up a MP adds 2 thousand pounds for the 2.93 proc!!!! 😱
Expensive times to be buying computers all round I think, which is sad for us all
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I know this is reflected in the high cost of the chips but spec'ing up a MP adds 2 thousand pounds for the 2.93 proc!!!! 😱
Expensive times to be buying computers all round I think, which is sad for us all
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Can somebody explain this?
Aluminum Macbook US, 1300usd -> 924gbp
Aluminum Macbook UK, 929gbp -> ~1300usd
so far so good... but...
iMac US, 2200usd -> 1560gbp
iMac UK, 1800gbp -> 2538usd
Now how on earth you get a disparity like this? I want my top of the range iMac for 1560gbp!
Aluminum Macbook US, 1300usd -> 924gbp
Aluminum Macbook UK, 929gbp -> ~1300usd
so far so good... but...
iMac US, 2200usd -> 1560gbp
iMac UK, 1800gbp -> 2538usd
Now how on earth you get a disparity like this? I want my top of the range iMac for 1560gbp!
Strangely the laptop lines look to be the best value, especially the refurb MB Pros
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apple have consistently said over the years that they expect laptops to overtake desktops in popularity. They certainly sell more laptops!
maybe they are protecting the margin on the desktops as they sell less and are willing to be a little more aggressive on laptops.
maybe they are just trying to force the market to fit their expectations!!! Bit too cynical there perhaps!
emotion
macrumors 68040
emotion
macrumors 68040
I can explain. Expect a Macbook price hike soon. Especially if people stump up for all these new machines. Vote with your wallet.
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
The iMac is seriously strange one in the range now, I would say that the rerurbs, tc come in if there any left, are the way to go and wait for the next refresh when LED screens come in
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drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
I am seriously expecting this also, when the next refresh comes (which I would presume will be some form of the integrated battery from the 17) then we will see the price rise
Unfortunately I am not ready yet to upgrade but when I am, late summer, I feel I will be getting done on the price rise 🙁
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
I do still like their products as well but what I think it has left is no reason to upgrade. The performance increases aren't that major, and outside of the unibody no major case redesigns
I can see this possibly being a quarter of fewer sales. Personally I like to upgrade probably every other cycle but I can see myself having less to say that it's worth it.
Do I NEED another computer = No
Do I WANT another computer = Yes
Do I WANT another computer at these prices = NO
Sorry apple but these pounds will stay in my pocket until I NEED to upgrade
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I can see this possibly being a quarter of fewer sales. Personally I like to upgrade probably every other cycle but I can see myself having less to say that it's worth it.
Do I NEED another computer = No
Do I WANT another computer = Yes
Do I WANT another computer at these prices = NO
Sorry apple but these pounds will stay in my pocket until I NEED to upgrade
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Yeah... where's the LED; maybe there will be another update on 24th 😛The iMac is seriously strange one in the range now, I would say that the rerurbs, tc come in if there any left, are the way to go and wait for the next refresh when LED screens come in
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I'm trying to figure out what kind of setup to buy... iMac + Macbook or Macbook + Dell 24" + PS3 ;-) The trouble is i like to play PC games.
I'll wait till 24th and just hope they update the graphic card in 17" MBP... and if they did, I'd buy the damn thing regardless of the completely ridiculous price... (Geforce G130 would help rationalizing spending 2k gbp for a laptop...)
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
Personally I think the 17 MBP is the best computer to get at the moment in apple's range. Personally I am hoping that the advances will trickle to the 15 MBP and I will replace mine
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edesignuk
Moderator emeritus
I think it's a load of cock.
You can argue all you like about exchange rates. Fact is when the $ was a piece of poop compared to the £ for a good long time they didn't alter prices to reflect this, they just lapped up the massive margins.
Now things have turned slightly in the other direction they're only too happy to quickly ramp up the costs.
I'm extremely happy I'm not in the market for anything from them right now. Their current pricing, now more so than ever, is frankly an insult and I'd have an incredibly hard time convincing myself I'm getting any sort of value for money.
You can argue all you like about exchange rates. Fact is when the $ was a piece of poop compared to the £ for a good long time they didn't alter prices to reflect this, they just lapped up the massive margins.
Now things have turned slightly in the other direction they're only too happy to quickly ramp up the costs.
I'm extremely happy I'm not in the market for anything from them right now. Their current pricing, now more so than ever, is frankly an insult and I'd have an incredibly hard time convincing myself I'm getting any sort of value for money.
drummerlondonw3
macrumors 6502a
too true, too true
I would imagine that the UK has to be one of the biggest markets (outside the US) and it is really saddening that we are being punished but were never rewarded.
Well said edesignuk
I would imagine that the UK has to be one of the biggest markets (outside the US) and it is really saddening that we are being punished but were never rewarded.
Well said edesignuk
I'm sharing your thoughts lad !
I was just about ready this week to go and buy the imac 24in, 3.06GHZ, mainly because as a student (which I am), I have a discount from Apple so, I was only going to spend around 1240 pounds for it. Now, I have to find if I can ofcourse, around 400 pounds more in order to buy it. And I don't think it's really worth it.
Cheers
colmaclean
macrumors 68000
Quite glad I've just purchased a refurb MBP - a 2.4 so it's still top-specced in the entry-level class (phew!).
I can see the next revision MBP getting a nice little price boost a well...
Was waiting around for the Mini refresh, but buckled and bought a QNAP TS-509 NAS instead last month.
Along with my Popcorn Hour, it does the same job I would expect from the new Mini. And it gives me a whacking great amount of storage!
I can see the next revision MBP getting a nice little price boost a well...
Was waiting around for the Mini refresh, but buckled and bought a QNAP TS-509 NAS instead last month.
Along with my Popcorn Hour, it does the same job I would expect from the new Mini. And it gives me a whacking great amount of storage!
I've forgot about value for money loong ago ;-)
Now I ask myself the question - can't I even get the hardware I want? regardless of the price..
Now I ask myself the question - can't I even get the hardware I want? regardless of the price..
xUKHCx
Administrator emeritus
There is an issue in the fact that you could buy an iMac for £782 before yesterday and a Mac Mini for £391. Today well £949 and £499. The barrier for purchasing just got a whole lot higher 21% and 27% respectively.
Once you are over that barrier the differences might not be that much. However if you were at or near those barriers before it is a big big difference.