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I’ve just seen that the UK government have stated they are going to insist the providers remove Huawei from the 5G networks and that this will impact the 5G roll out on some networks (EE, Vodafone & Three).

Will the slower roll out and thus the fact that unless you live in a major city you might be waiting quite a while for 5G affect your decision to purchase an iPhone 12?

Personally I’m on O2 who apparently aren’t using Huawei components in the main so therefore shouldn’t be too badly affected (although there’s no O2 in my town yet anyway).
 
I was in China in December and I was highly impressed by their level of technology. First the Huawei camera is good. 2. in Beijing I visited a Huawei exhibition area and was able to play with its 5G capabilities. It was really cool. What is sad is that now the Chinese will now further develop the technology on their own. Our 5G suppliers are still playing catch up.

Saying that, based on crazy prices and how the technology needs to be developed and refined, I plan to buy a 5G in 2021.

When 5G becomes the norm, it is going to revolutionise a lot of things. For example, if I were an internet provider or cable tv supplier I would fear 5G. Also gaming will go to a whole new level, no to mention all the other commercial and business possibilities.
 
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Won't impact my decision, and I'm really keen for 5G. I'll still get the 12.

A lot of the noise from these companies are really just trying to ensure they can carry on and meet their deadlines. You can already hear the accountants putting as much cost as possible against this change so that they can get compensation back from the government.

They know there is a lot of extra revenue waiting for them once they roll out 5G, so they will double down and turn this around ASAP. All the providers are in a race to market, so they will find a way and we as consumers will hardly notice the difference.

There will be some impact, but providers will find a way to keep it to a minimum.
 
It won’t me in the slightest.
I’m an O2 customer, in a popular seaside town that will not get 5G for a long time anyway.
After being burned by being an early adopter of both 3G and 4G, with the terrible battery life and awful modems that struggle to keep a signal. I’ll be waiting until the second or third generation 5G iPhones are available before moving over.
 
To be fair they are a shady business and they got caught. They deserve what they got. More companies need to get hung out to dry.
I am not convinced. They are so far ahead of everyone else when it comes to 5G this smells of the US trying to hold them back to catch up. Rather suspect the whole problem is going to disappear once US companies have got 5G tech ready for their network.
 
It won't affect my purchases but I would prefer to see the suppliers tell the government to get stuffed. There appears to be nothing wrong with the equipment other than another foreign power wanting to sell us their spyware infested kit instead. But they have seven years so there is a chance a sensible replacement government will revoke this daft decision. It is also know know if it truly affects the whole of the UK or just England. Boris likes to pump out decrees then find out later he actually needed the backing of the other countries that make up the union.
 
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I’ve just seen that the UK government have stated they are going to insist the providers remove Huawei from the 5G networks and that this will impact the 5G roll out on some networks (EE, Vodafone & Three).

Will the slower roll out and thus the fact that unless you live in a major city you might be waiting quite a while for 5G affect your decision to purchase an iPhone 12?

Personally I’m on O2 who apparently aren’t using Huawei components in the main so therefore shouldn’t be too badly affected (although there’s no O2 in my town yet anyway).

I don’t plan on keeping my iPhone 12 until 2027 so it won’t even be a need to consider for me.
 
4g where I live in the UK (East Lancashire) is more than acceptable, full signal pretty much everywhere, fast enough. wifi at work and home is ridiculously fast.
Even in Rhodes Greece the WiFi is fast pretty much everywhere even Cosmote/Wind Gr 4g is perfect on the island.
so for me I’m not fussed about 5g
 
I’ve just seen that the UK government have stated they are going to insist the providers remove Huawei from the 5G networks and that this will impact the 5G roll out on some networks (EE, Vodafone & Three).

Will the slower roll out and thus the fact that unless you live in a major city you might be waiting quite a while for 5G affect your decision to purchase an iPhone 12?

Personally I’m on O2 who apparently aren’t using Huawei components in the main so therefore shouldn’t be too badly affected (although there’s no O2 in my town yet anyway).

I think that unless you live in the centre of a major city, it will be a long time before 5g will become widely available regardless of the Huawei decision.
In any case, it is my understanding and belief that the real benefits of 5g will be mainly for IoT.
I don't think there are many things you could do on a phone (if any) that cannot be accomplished with a good 4g signal delivering its full potential of 150Mbps.
 
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Really doesn't interest me at all. I feel like 4g is already fast enough for a phone I'm getting 70Mb/s and everything already feels instant that I do on the phone. Sure having 5G might be nice for tethering to my Mac sometimes but it's not something I do regularly.
 
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If I get the 12 5G is of no real interest to me. 4G is perfectly fine for all my needs anyway and I get coverage pretty much everywhere.
 
o2 is crap to begin with, i lost count how many times signal got lost when i travel between wales and london. so it won't be a surprise their 5g is not up to snuff either huawei included or not.
 
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Truly high speed 5G also comes with truly below average reception. Much more excited about Starlink. 5G is useful for IoT but as for traditionally cellular based use cases, 5G seems like a gimmick.

There are already great alternatives to Huawei and their entire technology portfolio. NFV (network function virtualization) definitely also offers advantages over Huawei’s proprietary approach.
 
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Living in Wales and being with O2 I can absolutely agree with this. It’s bad in the Midlands too which I found bizarre.
you know how phone has a tendency to lose signal when in a tunnel, well O2 cant even function near a tunnel nevermind in one 😂

the only respectful signal i get in wales is when i'm in swansea, and only in downtown area.
 
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you know how phone has a tendency to lose signal when in a tunnel, well O2 cant even function near a tunnel nevermind in one

the only respectful signal i get in wales is when i'm in swansea, and only in downtown area.

I’m switching to EE this September after nearly a decade with O2. The real pain is also the 4G speed. I’m getting about 18mb and friends on EE are getting 70+. I’m not even bothered about 5G seeing as the 4G rollout has still not reached much of Wales lol. At least in the Valleys EE and Vodafone seem to have the best coverage. EE also has a huge facility in Merthyr so that helps.
 
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Really doesn't interest me at all. I feel like 4g is already fast enough for a phone I'm getting 70Mb/s and everything already feels instant that I do on the phone. Sure having 5G might be nice for tethering to my Mac sometimes but it's not something I do regularly.

Maybe you mean MBit/s? That would be a more realistic throughput :)
 
I'd quite like a 4G signal at work, actually even a reliable 3G would good.
I've got a premises in one area of South Oxfordshire that no one seems to have a signal in. WiFi calling isn't great either, mainly as there's nothing faster than 20mbps around here and only BT serve this area.

At home though I'm hoping for 5G and a large data plan and then I can ditch internet at home and just tether when I need to.
 
If you think how long it took the operators to ensure a decent 4G cover throughout the UK, I would not worry about it at all. They will have time to make alternative arrangements with another 5G supplier and nobody will even notice. Having said that, I do not really care much about 5G, as a decent 4G speed (~50 Mbps) is more than enough for my needs.
 
UK Govt. already signalled they've made this move to appease Trump and a reversal is on the cards.

Not other company can fill Huawei's boots. They're significantly ahead with 5G and few in the UK really believe half of the conspiracy nonsense Trump's administration has levelled at them.
 
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