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casperes1996

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Not by my Mac right now so demonstrating on my phone.

The web portal for iCloud does not show all uses of iCloud. Only those it makes sense to access over a web portal. Safari syncs with iCloud even if it’s not shown as an app in the iCloud web portal. Cause why would you run a web page safari within another browser instance?

You will still find safari in iCloud settings.
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Lucas!

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Not by my Mac right now so demonstrating on my phone.

The web portal for iCloud does not show all uses of iCloud. Only those it makes sense to access over a web portal. Safari syncs with iCloud even if it’s not shown as an app in the iCloud web portal. Cause why would you run a web page safari within another browser instance?

You will still find safari in iCloud settings.
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Thank you for responding here. I've checked on my iPhone and see exactly what you have illustrated.

Will you please try to respond to the post on the ASC forum - I fear something may be amiss as there have been zero responses.
 

casperes1996

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Thank you for responding here. I've checked on my iPhone and see exactly what you have illustrated.

Will you please try to respond to the post on the ASC forum - I fear something may be amiss as there have been zero responses.
What should've gone amiss?
Simple fact is just that the official Apple forums are fairly baron compared to other places like here.
But I've replied on there as you requested
 
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Lucas!

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What should've gone amiss?

Whenever I've posted there before, SOMEONE has answered within 24 hours!

Simple fact is just that the official Apple forums are fairly baron compared to other places like here.

Most respondents there suggest removing any kind of anti-malware software from one's Apple computer.
Do you subscribe to such advice?

But I've replied on there as you requested

Thank you, Casper.
 

casperes1996

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Most respondents there suggest removing any kind of anti-malware software from one's Apple computer.
Do you subscribe to such advice?
If you run a reasonably modern version of macOS and keep your other software up to date and don’t install all sorts of crap you find when writing incorrect URLs into a browser then I certainly don’t think there’s any reason to bother with anti-malware software. You shouldn’t go out of your way either to try and disable macOS’ built in XProtect though.
I do think you’re often better off without the anti malware programs. Ones like avg are arguable more malicious than what they supposedly protect you against. Others are reputable enough but will often do more to protect windows pcs on your network from whatever you may send to them than protecting your Mac.
 
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chevyboy60013

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Most respondents there suggest removing any kind of anti-malware software from one's Apple computer.
Do you subscribe to such advice?
I absolutely do. Even running macOS Sonoma on my unsupported devices via OCLP, I do NOT use any form of antivirus software on them.
 
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HDFan

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Most respondents there suggest removing any kind of anti-malware software from one's Apple computer.
Do you subscribe to such advice?

Controversial subject. People are pretty much locked into do/don't positions. I'm firmly in the "do" camp.


There is also another corporate security paper which takes the same position. Can't find it right now.
 
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casperes1996

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Controversial subject. People are pretty much locked into do/don't positions. I'm firmly in the "do" camp.


There is also another corporate security paper which takes the same position. Can't find it right now.
Mac’s are very much at risk of malware. Like any device. But at the same time McAffee is no better at stopping threat than Apple. IMO at least
 

Lucas!

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But I've replied on there as you requested
On the Apple forum I've now said .....

Casper - another query if I may!

In the top left hand corner of your image, have you snipped out an additional reference to an Apple ID?

Both mine and my wife's computers have three items showing "Apple ID" adjacent to/below your 'snowflake' logo/icon.

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Please answer!
 

Alpha Centauri

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Whenever I've posted there before, SOMEONE has answered within 24 hours!
Yes, I've noticed that. Back 10 yrs ago there were (within hours) immediate solutions from the higher tier members there with lengthy, expanded replies (or actual discussions) per thread. I'm not sure if the points allocation system has lost its appeal or motivation, or there's to much censorship involved but there were often Apple techs on board.

Nowadays my searches and solutions moreso get hits from MR or reddit for rather unusual problems. Ah yes, "back in the day" Apple Discussions had mostly members that have @casperes1996 "like" knowledge.
 

HDFan

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But at the same time McAffee is no better at stopping threat than Apple. IMO at least

It's an issue of redundancy. As a general principle I never want to be totally dependent on one source of failure. Battery backups in case of main power failure, multiple backups in case of storage failure, etc. I use modem firewall, hardware firewall, mac firewall, Sophos, Little Snitch .... Security updates may happen at different times for various solutions. Not a guarantee but the best I can do.
 
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Lucas!

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It's an issue of redundancy. As a general principle I never want to be totally dependent on one source of failure. Battery backups in case of main power failure, multiple backups in case of storage failure, etc. I use modem firewall, hardware firewall, mac firewall, Sophos, Little Snitch .... Security updates may happen at different times for various solutions. Not a guarantee but the best I can do.
Have you any thoughts on the post I made here a few weeks ago?
 

HDFan

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Have you any thoughts on the post I made here a few weeks ago?

Since iCloud has to be populated the device which does the upload would be assumed to have done the appropriate malware scanning.

As documents and photos, which are typical iCloud files, are not usually the conveyance of malware/viruses then the risk is relatively low. Not 0, but I wouldn't worry about it as long as you have good protections on the source device.
 
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Ben J.

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I stopped using apple discussion community several years ago. IMO it's now full of not very knowledgable people collecting "points" by posting useless advise and stuff that seems like copy/paste posts, and if you suggest that, you get moderated.
 
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Lucas!

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Since iCloud has to be populated the device which does the upload would be assumed to have done the appropriate malware scanning.

Do you mean Apple itself - or some specialist security software?

As documents and photos, which are typical iCloud files, are not usually the conveyance of malware/viruses then the risk is relatively low. Not 0, but I wouldn't worry about it as long as you have good protections on the source device.

I don't have any "good protections" on my "source device".

What do you recommend?
 

Lucas!

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I stopped using apple discussion community several years ago. IMO it's now full of not very knowledgable people collecting "points" by posting useless advise and stuff that seems like copy/paste posts, and if you suggest that, you get moderated.

Are you aware that people can post/advise there without using their 'authorised' AppleID to Log In?
 
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