Undecided between S3 SS and Nike

[fedecape]

Hello guys,

So I've had the S0 and the S2 Nike in the past (sold before the keynote), and I am now in the market for a Series 3. I've been trying to catch a 42mm SS in stock since they were announced, but I haven't had much luck. Neither Apple or BestBuy in my area have any, and the earliest date is in 3 weeks for a pick up. I know I should have ordered it a long time ago, but I keep thinking that it'll be faster to refresh their websites everyday and grab one as soon as they become available.

Anyways, because of my frustration, I am now considering the S3 Nike+ edition. I am really not interested in LTE, mostly because I don't want to pay, and because I am with my phone most of the time. When I'm not, it is because I don't want to. However the Stainless Steel doesn't just have LTE. It also has that beautiful body, a ceramic heart rate sensor, and sapphire at the front.

Now, I've never had a SS before (although my S2 Nike+ did have a ceramic back) and I haven't really seen much about its performance during intense activity. I do gym 2-3 times a week (1+ hour) and I go for a run almost everyday for no less than 30 minutes. I know the SS is a bit thicker because of the LTE, and a bit heavier because of being SS.

So does anyone have experience with both of them? Will the Stainless Steel body be a bother with its added weight and thickness? Will it absorb my body heat and stay hot on my wrist? Will I mess up/scratch the body while working out?

Thank you in advance!

 

[Newtons Apple]

While the stainless and sapphire model does weigh a bit more, it is way more durable and will stay new looking for much longer.

 

[44267547]

Hello guys,

So I've had the S0 and the S2 Nike in the past (sold before the keynote), and I am now in the market for a Series 3. I've been trying to catch a 42mm SS in stock since they were announced, but I haven't had much luck. Neither Apple or BestBuy in my area have any, and the earliest date is in 3 weeks for a pick up. I know I should have ordered it a long time ago, but I keep thinking that it'll be faster to refresh their websites everyday and grab one as soon as they become available.

Anyways, because of my frustration, I am now considering the S3 Nike+ edition. I am really not interested in LTE, mostly because I don't want to pay, and because I am with my phone most of the time. When I'm not, it is because I don't want to. However the Stainless Steel doesn't just have LTE. It also has that beautiful body, a ceramic heart rate sensor, and sapphire at the front.

Now, I've never had a SS before (although my S2 Nike+ did have a ceramic back) and I haven't really seen much about its performance during intense activity. I do gym 2-3 times a week (1+ hour) and I go for a run almost everyday for no less than 30 minutes. I know the SS is a bit thicker because of the LTE, and a bit heavier because of being SS.

So does anyone have experience with both of them? Will the Stainless Steel body be a bother with its added weight and thickness? Will it absorb my body heat and stay hot on my wrist? Will I mess up/scratch the body while working out?

Thank you in advance!

In terms of physical fitness, I would say the aluminum model is likely your best option. It weighs far less and it's fairly durable. But the advantage to the stainless model, is you can use it for fitness, given the weight, but it does have a sapphire display to protect against from scratches.

The stainless model can also be used to dress up or down pending your situation. But I wouldn't say either Apple Watch gets hot on your wrist, the band can make your wrist uncomfortable depending the material.

My Preference is for the stainless model, given that the scratches can be buffed out and the Sapphire display is fairly resilient against damage.

 

[Fireball Dragon]

I use my Garmin for running. But if AW suits your running needs and goals, I’d still opt for the LTE version as it has a ceramic back.

Going from ceramic on the S2 Nike+ to composite on the S3 Nike+ seems like a bit of a downgrade, imo. It not sure how important that is to you. The only benefit of the Nike+ watch seems to be the exclusive watch faces. If. You run with Strava (or any other Nike+ platforms), it shouldn’t really matter.

 

[fedecape]

I use my Garmin for running. But if AW suits your running needs and goals, I’d still opt for the LTE version as it has a ceramic back.

Going from ceramic on the S2 Nike+ to composite on the S3 Nike+ seems like a bit of a downgrade, imo. It not sure how important that is to you. The only benefit of the Nike+ watch seems to be the exclusive watch faces. If. You run with Strava (or any other Nike+ platforms), it shouldn’t really matter.

I have no experience with Garmin. I have always used the stock workout app. Are there any advantages to third party apps? The only reason why I am considering Nike vs regular S3 is because I like the bands they include. I really don't care that much for the watchfaces.

And I agree, downgrading from ceramic back to composite does worry me, but how much does that actually matter in real life use? It is important as long as it actually makes a difference.

 

[Fireball Dragon]

I have no experience with Garmin. I have always used the stock workout app. Are there any advantages to third party apps? The only reason why I am considering Nike vs regular S3 is because I like the bands they include. I really don't care that much for the watchfaces.

And I agree, downgrading from ceramic back to composite does worry me, but how much does that actually matter in real life use? It is important as long as it actually makes a difference.

I blog a little about watches, and as a runner, have compared AW with Garmin time over. You may find this useful: https://andykumar.net/category/running-gadgets/

I purchased an AW S3 (non-LTE) and am SUPER careful with my gadgets. Still, I noticed some very faint marks on my <2-week old AW. So I returned it and opted for the LTE version which has a ceramic back. Having not owned a ceramic back before (upgrading from Series 0), I can truly say that it is worth it!!! Looks so much better; I think going from ceramic to composite, you may be disappointed.
[doublepost=1507632365][/doublepost]Also, if you love running (or cycling) definitely get on STRAVA!!!!

 

[Beards]

I’m still wearing my SS Series 0 daily and boy oh boy has it had punishment over the lengthy time (from practically day one of launch) I have owned it. I doubt an aluminium one would have survived the same.

 

[deeddawg]

While the stainless and sapphire model does weigh a bit more, it is way more durable and will stay new looking for much longer.

True, although AppleCare+ mitigates that to a large degree and still costs less than the SS watch.

The only reason why I am considering Nike vs regular S3 is because I like the bands they include. I really don't care that much for the watchfaces.

It really boils down to what you're seeking to achieve. You can certainly buy a SS watch and add a Nike+ band; with AC+ you'll be in for $750 plus taxes on a 42mm. Contrast to a non-LTE Nike+ with AC+ at $410 + taxes or LTE Nike+ with AC+ for $480 plus taxes. Is the SS worth an extra $270 to $340 to you?

I'd recommend checking out the watches in person for a bit if you can; even if not in stock at your closest Apple store, they should have them on display to where you can try each of them on and get a feel for them.

 

[fedecape]

True, although AppleCare+ mitigates that to a large degree and still costs less than the SS watch.



It really boils down to what you're seeking to achieve. You can certainly buy a SS watch and add a Nike+ band; with AC+ you'll be in for $750 plus taxes on a 42mm. Contrast to a non-LTE Nike+ with AC+ at $410 + taxes or LTE Nike+ with AC+ for $480 plus taxes. Is the SS worth an extra $270 to $340 to you?

I'd recommend checking out the watches in person for a bit if you can; even if not in stock at your closest Apple store, they should have them on display to where you can try each of them on and get a feel for them.

Interesting idea. How does AC mitigate that? I thought you still had to pay to get it repaired/exchanged

 

[Newtons Apple]

Interesting idea. How does AC mitigate that? I thought you still had to pay to get it repaired/exchanged

You you do and I do not think they cover cosmetic damages

 

[deeddawg]

Interesting idea. How does AC mitigate that? I thought you still had to pay to get it repaired/exchanged

Yes, you spend the $70 to replace it. Still, $410 + $70 < $750.

You you do and I do not think they cover cosmetic damages

Strictly true, though AC+ of course covers accidental damage which impedes the function of the watch. Never did have to actually try out the service though since my AW2 never got damaged enough to bother me.

 

[JaisHTX]

I had a Nike+ S2, just got the SS S3 in yesterday and went through a complete 2 hours workout. The weight didn't bother me one bit -- I didn't even notice the watch. It held up nicely. Lastly, the fit and finish of the SS watch is above and beyond the Aluminum watch. If you have the option, put your pre-order in today and wait on the SS, IMO.

 

[Fireball Dragon]

One other thing I wanted to mention.

I went into the Apple Store yesterday, a little undecided between the SS and black aluminium.

I may be alone here, but found the black SS to be far too shiny for my liking. And I have never been fond of the silver SS.

Honestly think that the aluminium ones look better. Again, just my opinion/preference, there's no right or wrong here. I think the aluminium can get damaged more easily, so just have to be careful.

 

[Frankfurt]

One other thing I wanted to mention.

I went into the Apple Store yesterday, a little undecided between the SS and black aluminium.

I may be alone here, but found the black SS to be far too shiny for my liking. And I have never been fond of the silver SS.

Honestly think that the aluminium ones look better. Again, just my opinion/preference, there's no right or wrong here. I think the aluminium can get damaged more easily, so just have to be careful.

I had a SBSS SO with SS link bracelet and it has been a great watch. The saphire glass and DLC coating preserved it in "as new" condition. I went with the SG Alum S3/LTE this go around and keeping it with the link bracelet.
The matte finish looks equally great and given an upgrade cycle of about 2 years the extra cost of the SS (~$230) is a consideration (I got AirPods for the difference).

We will see how the SG Alum holds up in terms of casing and glass.

 

[MisterMillz]

Something else to consider is the resale value. SS depreciation is horrible. SS looks the best in my opinion. However, I had a SS 0 and went with Nike+LTE this year. Much less expensive, does the same thing, and a black band with the SG body looks good professionally or for sport.

 

[Cnasty]

Go with the Space Black SS.

I was in the same predicament and the toyish look and feel to the aluminum was an easy deciding factor for me to stay with the SS I got.

The coating, sapphire, and stealth look are a fantastic look and i run daily and no issues with weight.

Caveat being if you are an 'upgrade every year' type of person, go aluminum and deal with it as the depreciation of trying to sell the SS every year is brutal.

My take of course and YMMV.

 

[fischersd]

The Space Black SS is bulletproof - heh, and not crazy-shiny in real life (@Fireball Dragon ) - that's the lighting in the Apple Store. Much better elsewhere. I think the SBSS with a Nike band would be pretty sharp. Durability - regular use, every day and not a scratch in over 2 years.

I like how it's more subtle than the regular SS. People saying it's not as easy to match bands to - how many do you need? (think I'll have 20 of them shortly)

 

[Fireball Dragon]

The Space Black SS is bulletproof - heh, and not crazy-shiny in real life (@Fireball Dragon ) - that's the lighting in the Apple Store. Much better elsewhere

Yes, could be a factor!! It's okay though; I've got the Space Grey Alu, and am happy with it. Never had an issue with Ion X glass. But if the LTE Alu version had the composite back, I'd probably have gone for SS tbh.

 

[Jessem1133]

I’m still wearing my SS Series 0 daily and boy oh boy has it had punishment over the lengthy time (from practically day one of launch) I have owned it. I doubt an aluminium one would have survived the same.

Comepletely agree. The amount I bang this watch around the gym/house/work...an aluminum would have been destroyed. Gotta have that sapphire face.

 

[fedecape]

Damn guys, thank you all.

I am still in doubt, cause I do tend to upgrade every year, but I also like having and wearing nice things. I also do have the money, but I am by no means rich and can afford to waste $300~

Also, I was planning on getting the silver Ss, not the black one. I see that multiple people here have recommended the black one. Any particular reason why?

 

[Fireball Dragon]

Damn guys, thank you all.

I am still in doubt, cause I do tend to upgrade every year, but I also like having and wearing nice things. I also do have the money, but I am by no means rich and can afford to waste $300~

Also, I was planning on getting the silver Ss, not the black one. I see that multiple people here have recommended the black one. Any particular reason why?

I think it doesn’t show or pick up scratches as easily. Personally, I think it looks better.

 

[flur]

I’ve worn the SS since launch and I know people say the aluminum is better for workouts because it’s lighter, but heck, I’ve never noticed my watch as being heavy. It’s not weighing me down, LOL. The thing looks almost brand new—not a single scratch on the face, just minor scratches on the SS that can be buffed out (I did that once and it was nice, but I can’t be bothered with doing it all the time).

When I upgraded to S3, I didn’t even consider aluminum. And just look at this forum, with people already getting screen scratches the first week with the ionx screen. It’s worth the money.

 

[Fireball Dragon]

I’ve worn the SS since launch and I know people say the aluminum is better for workouts because it’s lighter, but heck, I’ve never noticed my watch as being heavy. It’s not weighing me down, LOL. The thing looks almost brand new—not a single scratch on the face, just minor scratches on the SS that can be buffed out (I did that once and it was nice, but I can’t be bothered with doing it all the time).

When I upgraded to S3, I didn’t even consider aluminum. And just look at this forum, with people already getting screen scratches the first week with the ionx screen. It’s worth the money.

I've never got a single scratch on my first gen alu Ion-x Screen. Or any of my iPhones over the years. I don't know how the people reporting screen scratches handle their watches.

 

[deeddawg]

I've never got a single scratch on my first gen alu Ion-x Screen. Or any of my iPhones over the years. I don't know how the people reporting screen scratches handle their watches.

The only screen scuff I had on my AW2 Nike+ was on the top rounded edge of the screen and occurred due to slamming my wrist into a doorway. Yes, I can be a klutz at times. Similarly I had a slight scrape on the top edge of the casing, again similar reason. Never really bothered me.

During most of the time I was laying down new hardwood floors and stairs at home this past year, I had a cheapie TPU cover I'd slip over the watch while working. Probably helped at times. Ugly as sin so I wouldn't use it outside those circumstances.

All said, if there were a Nike SS I'd quite possibly have gone that direction. However I like a couple of the Nike faces, and I really like the Nike band, so that made for a pretty steep price delta for a watch I anticipate keeping a year. Maybe I'll go two, depends on what they do with the 2nd gen LTE watches. I skipped the watches before AW2 due to lack of onboard GPS and specified water resistance.

 

[lordofthereef]

Something else to consider is the resale value. SS depreciation is horrible. SS looks the best in my opinion. However, I had a SS 0 and went with Nike+LTE this year. Much less expensive, does the same thing, and a black band with the SG body looks good professionally or for sport.

This was my number one reason for not going with SS this year. I still don’t feel these products are worthy of being kept forn3+ years (though some are doing that) and so I couldn’t justify losing that entire markup come next year.

I may still get AppleCare since it’s $50 (thought it was $100+) and then I can just beat the he’ll out of the Watch.

I couldn’t care less about the dressiness of the thing. I see people in suits with a Fitbit on. I’ll be fine with whatever I chose to wear lol.
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I've never got a single scratch on my first gen alu Ion-x Screen. Or any of my iPhones over the years. I don't know how the people reporting screen scratches handle their watches.

Before I owned a house I’d understand. I’ve done more handy work in the last year than I’ve ever done in my whole life lol. Of course that’s a choice too (could just pay someone but I’d rather save the money on stuff in capable of doing).

My two year old 6s plus has some minor scratches too but only when looked at an angle with the right light. Dog really drop or do anything to abuse it. It has just happened. I used to be a screen protector type person by I realized i was spending more on protectors than they’re worth.