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Underwhelmed by Ventura
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And that may well be the case. After all, Apple tends not to release a lot of 'big' new features in every release because they like to spend more time promoting fewer of them. And on a technical level, I can't imagine the work involved in getting macOS to run seamlessly on both Intel and AS.
But in terms of feeling underwhelmed, we have to understand that operating systems today are very mature. It's taken Microsoft and Apple years of trial and error to get to the point where we are now; and at the end of the day, what more can you do with a keyboard, trackpad and screen? Henceforth most innovations going forward will involve the eco-system as a whole rather than one platform.
i dunno, i would think that monterey is what monterey should have been, and ventura is what ventura is intended to be... 🤔
Honestly, many of the complaints in this thread amount to very good reasons to use Linux instead. Linux Mint Cinnamon became my daily driver on my old 2011 MBP ca. 2015. When I bought a new desktop in 2019, I shrunk the Win10/NTFS partition to 50%, and so I have roughly 500 GB of space for both.
I know that mainstream Linux distros such as Mint only actively stop supporting hardware when it is so anciently old that you just can't make it do what you need.
Nevertheless, I own a 2020 MBA and there's no question it is very nice hardware.
Vis a vis Ventura, I agree with those above who have said if you don't want it, don't get it.
The more people who choose something different, the more incentive Apple (or whomever else) have to play nice.
I know that mainstream Linux distros such as Mint only actively stop supporting hardware when it is so anciently old that you just can't make it do what you need.
Nevertheless, I own a 2020 MBA and there's no question it is very nice hardware.
Vis a vis Ventura, I agree with those above who have said if you don't want it, don't get it.
The more people who choose something different, the more incentive Apple (or whomever else) have to play nice.
Why are we also still unable to backup iCloud Photos and iCloud Drive fully on devices with optimize storage enabled? Sure, it would slow the background down a bit downloading this data, but it should be included considering Time Machine is the only supported backup option for them…
Linux doesn't help anyone running a Mac that relies on software that doesn't exist on Linux.
The same could be said about Windows (for someone trying to switch to either a Mac or Linux).
In 2013/14, I had a project wherein I liberated as much of my data as I could from anything like a proprietary format. I couldn't liberate some things, like DTP files, but that was OK because by that point I only had ancient archives, and nothing current. So all of my stuff, from music to fonts to videos to images, etc., are all in modern and libre formats and universally supported. It took a good 18 months of on-again off-again work to make that happen, and it's paid some pretty serious dividends.
Nevertheless, if we don't keep pushing for freedom and liberty on all fronts, including within the technology world, we'll never get there. It's a daily fight.
Well that's great for YOU. Some of us use a bit more than good old Office and Apple Music. There is no substitute on Linux that will open up my Logic Pro or Cubase projects, or any of the plugins I use daily in those apps, so that argument only works for a limited set of cases.
I'm with you, testing Ventura on my spare MBP, maybe I got used to how much feature changes or added on iOS compare to macOS.
I would like to see more optimization on Ventura, more detailed battery graph, better top menubar management of icon. There are icons that I cannot hide or remove—they are fixed in the bar.
Good they are working on improving Mail app (need to have the same level as Outlook) and Apple Maps with iOS route planning, seriously needed here.
I also wish Apple to add third-party mouse support, I have been using Mac Mouse Fix ( https://mousefix.org ). It is just outstanding for a standard mouse. I don't have a trackpad for desktop use, and Mac Mouse Fix has all the features of the trackpad can do.
I would like to see more optimization on Ventura, more detailed battery graph, better top menubar management of icon. There are icons that I cannot hide or remove—they are fixed in the bar.
Good they are working on improving Mail app (need to have the same level as Outlook) and Apple Maps with iOS route planning, seriously needed here.
I also wish Apple to add third-party mouse support, I have been using Mac Mouse Fix ( https://mousefix.org ). It is just outstanding for a standard mouse. I don't have a trackpad for desktop use, and Mac Mouse Fix has all the features of the trackpad can do.
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For any MacOS update the things that are more relevant are the under the hood things that make it work better.
Apple's way of updating their basic apps only during OS updates sucks big time but thankfully I don't use most of them so it has no bearing for me.
I'd kill for better external display support. The MacOS Monterey UI for display settings is a pile of crap. The way anything that deviates from 16:9 4K/5K/6K displays tends to suffer from weird issues like missing HiDPI, defaulting to chrome subsampling, DSC not working, no support for DP MST or HDMI 2.1 on the OS level etc is just bad.
Apple's way of updating their basic apps only during OS updates sucks big time but thankfully I don't use most of them so it has no bearing for me.
I'd kill for better external display support. The MacOS Monterey UI for display settings is a pile of crap. The way anything that deviates from 16:9 4K/5K/6K displays tends to suffer from weird issues like missing HiDPI, defaulting to chrome subsampling, DSC not working, no support for DP MST or HDMI 2.1 on the OS level etc is just bad.
Stage Manager is a huge dud in my book. Just doesn't do anything for those of us who use several+ displays and need overflowing windows betwixt displays.
certainly everything counts... including that 👍In 2022 and beyond it makes sense for businesses to improve their ESG score.
I can't imagine going through the first backup with 300+ GB upload, or restoring via download from the cloud in that size. No, that's what local fast storage is for.
there is a market for that though. Otherwise, companies like Acronis, Crashplan, Backblaze, etc would all go out of business. depending on what you do, offsite backup can be pretty important.
Of course there's a market for that, but for 99 % of private users it's overkill or something they won't pay for. That's where I came from.
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Of course. But if someone has a whopping 2TB cloud storage, I figured they would be part of that minority. Plus apple already allows iOS devices to be backed up to icloud.
It's a nice fall back when/if local backups get corrupted. (i've actually lost some data when both my backup drives decided to glitch up so now have a third backup on a 1TB cloud storage)
I have the 2TB cloud storage because we're on the family plan and for 4 adults with their own photo storage it's the only viable solution. And corrupted backups are never a good thing - even more so if it hits 2 of your backup drives. Insane.
We are getting a bit of topic here, but I am one of those that have data in the cloud (actually 5TB with IDrive):
1st tier data - On my Macs (LR libraries, working files)
1st and 2nd tier data - On my NAS and local backup onto backup NAS (photo-, music- and video files, data files)
3rd tier data - cloud based backup of NAS (most important files)
Same here..
Mac Mini has its regular old Time Machine backup to an 8TB WD drive. Backblaze backs all that up to the cloud as well.
Over on my NAS, that has two 4TB drives in it, one is the main, the other is the backup using the QNAP backup software. From there, it goes to BackBlaze as well using one of their business accounts (you cant back up network drives with the desktop version unfortunately).
On top of all that I have a 200GB iCloud account that keeps whatever that is backing up in check as well. I paid for that more for my iPhone/iPad so I could load them up with music and whatever but nowadays most of that is gone and Im just adding the stuff I actually own to my Apple Music library and letting that pull OTA when I use it instead.
Mac Mini has its regular old Time Machine backup to an 8TB WD drive. Backblaze backs all that up to the cloud as well.
Over on my NAS, that has two 4TB drives in it, one is the main, the other is the backup using the QNAP backup software. From there, it goes to BackBlaze as well using one of their business accounts (you cant back up network drives with the desktop version unfortunately).
On top of all that I have a 200GB iCloud account that keeps whatever that is backing up in check as well. I paid for that more for my iPhone/iPad so I could load them up with music and whatever but nowadays most of that is gone and Im just adding the stuff I actually own to my Apple Music library and letting that pull OTA when I use it instead.