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Uninstalling Snow Leopard
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I have found exactly the same thing with a Kyocera C5015N and also a Canon MF4350D
I upgraded my MBPro and MBAir to SL and neither will print out of SL
Specific drivers will apparently be available in 2 to 4 weeks from the manufacturers whereas Apple's drivers whilst supposed to work actually don't; and even tho Mac recognises the printers and adds them, when attempting to print I get an error message that is something like ' printer software incorrectly installed; please refer to manufacturer'
a call to Apple tech support had me attempting to update drivers via SW Update but that yielded nothing and the tech guy admitted that it's be a wait until Canon and Kyocera came to the party.
He also admitted that many are calling about similar printing issues, spinning beach balls and crashes.
so I've taken the Air back to 10.5.8 (and it's sure is nice and snappy after an erase and fresh install!) left the MBPro with SL and any printing I simply transfer to the Air and print from there.
sounds like bullsh*t to me Apple, that you would allow this to happen to Mac faithful in your haste to be first cab off the rank.
roll on 10.6.1 and manufacturer specific drivers.
as a footnote - I did manage to use the Gutenberg drivers to get the C5015N printing but it'd only yield Mono and not color.
and oddly my old FS920 Kyocera prints fine under SL as long as there's a direct USB cable connection and not via Bonjour
The problem with Hype.
This is a major under-bonnet upgrade. It's like putting a V8 into a shell for a 4 cylinder engine.
I am using 2 MacBooks. A white 2.1 and a new MacBook pro 13 inch. I put Snow Leopard onto the White one to take a look at it. From a user point of view the benefit is subtle, the problem is, with an earlier than previously thought release (presumably to get ahead of Windows 7), it seems to have left some third-party developers off guard. For example Mac Speech dictate, have been concentrating this summer on major new releases (legal, medical). I think they thought I had more time to sort out the 64 bit architecture. A couple of applications I've looked at that haven't been tweaked to 64-bit, gobble memory. These memory leaks, seem to me to be the primary problem, I think once 64-bit compliance is achieved their most of the problems being talked about will disappear.
A good friend of mine, an IT consultant, with over 20 years experience in this industry, and original Apple Mac fan boy, said to me last week "I think I'll wait for the dust to settle before I upgrade to Snow Leopard", thus a voice of experience! In a way, Apple have made themselves a bit of a victim here. Too much pre-snow leopard hype and bringing release date forward. Apple have created problems for themselves, by giving red-faces to hey 3rd party developers, although I think in reality the are the problems are small and will quickly be resolved.
For the moment, I'm keeping snow leopard off my MacBook Pro, as speech recognition is a primary requirement for me. Once Mac Speech dictate have sorted out the 64-bit compliance, then I will upgrade.
This is a major under-bonnet upgrade. It's like putting a V8 into a shell for a 4 cylinder engine.
I am using 2 MacBooks. A white 2.1 and a new MacBook pro 13 inch. I put Snow Leopard onto the White one to take a look at it. From a user point of view the benefit is subtle, the problem is, with an earlier than previously thought release (presumably to get ahead of Windows 7), it seems to have left some third-party developers off guard. For example Mac Speech dictate, have been concentrating this summer on major new releases (legal, medical). I think they thought I had more time to sort out the 64 bit architecture. A couple of applications I've looked at that haven't been tweaked to 64-bit, gobble memory. These memory leaks, seem to me to be the primary problem, I think once 64-bit compliance is achieved their most of the problems being talked about will disappear.
A good friend of mine, an IT consultant, with over 20 years experience in this industry, and original Apple Mac fan boy, said to me last week "I think I'll wait for the dust to settle before I upgrade to Snow Leopard", thus a voice of experience! In a way, Apple have made themselves a bit of a victim here. Too much pre-snow leopard hype and bringing release date forward. Apple have created problems for themselves, by giving red-faces to hey 3rd party developers, although I think in reality the are the problems are small and will quickly be resolved.
For the moment, I'm keeping snow leopard off my MacBook Pro, as speech recognition is a primary requirement for me. Once Mac Speech dictate have sorted out the 64-bit compliance, then I will upgrade.
No printer drivers
I too am unable to get printer drivers for my Lexmark X7675 all in one printer. Apple said not their fault, Lexmark said Apples fault for putting out SL 1 week early.WTF.
I am going to uninstall SL as well until Lexmark gets around to providing the drivers for my 6 month old printer?
This is my first dissapointment with an Apple product.
Shame on me for not waiting for the dust to settle.
I too am unable to get printer drivers for my Lexmark X7675 all in one printer. Apple said not their fault, Lexmark said Apples fault for putting out SL 1 week early.WTF.
I am going to uninstall SL as well until Lexmark gets around to providing the drivers for my 6 month old printer?
This is my first dissapointment with an Apple product.
Shame on me for not waiting for the dust to settle.
I too am unable to get printer drivers for my Lexmark X7675 all in one printer. Apple said not their fault, Lexmark said Apples fault for putting out SL 1 week early.WTF.
I am going to uninstall SL as well until Lexmark gets around to providing the drivers for my 6 month old printer?
This is my first dissapointment with an Apple product.
Shame on me for not waiting for the dust to settle.
You should not blame Apple. Blame the 3rd party people that wait until the last moment to upgrade their drivers. When Apple releases SL a bit earlier to surprise the users the 3rd party application companies should have been prepared more than they were. Some were , and some weren't. I myself was happy that they released it early. Even though myself I am without a printer until Canon gets around to getting my driver for me which they say is Oct 6th. But in the meantime I get to play around with my new SL software so I am happy. You should be too. Cheer Up!
Daft or what?
This last comment is a bit silly, Obviously things not working for this person, isn't crucial? It also seems silly for Apple to put their own business plans above those of their PARTNERS..Apple need 3rd party's to support their OS, and help to make Apple both a great experience, and a sound business platform. Surly it is unwise to alienate big players, such as Adobe? MacSpeech, HP and Canon to name but a few.
Most business users cannot afford to jerk around for a couple of months playing with cosmetic 'bells and whistles' while business critical things cease to function properly! such as printing!, PhotoShop so on and so forth!
This last comment is a bit silly, Obviously things not working for this person, isn't crucial? It also seems silly for Apple to put their own business plans above those of their PARTNERS..Apple need 3rd party's to support their OS, and help to make Apple both a great experience, and a sound business platform. Surly it is unwise to alienate big players, such as Adobe? MacSpeech, HP and Canon to name but a few.
Most business users cannot afford to jerk around for a couple of months playing with cosmetic 'bells and whistles' while business critical things cease to function properly! such as printing!, PhotoShop so on and so forth!
It's the software developer's job to maintain compatibility, not Apple's. Every OS upgrade in history has broken compatibility for something. Apple has had betas out for months, and the developers had ample time to prepare.
Yes, it's true that the software developers job to maintain computability, but I know from experience (having done year 2000 complacency on an Oracle data base in 1999 pn a local government pension system, companies don't always tell the truth!). Did Apple say things like "It will be fine!!!"? Did they gloss over some things too quickly?
De-marking responsibilities and duties is not always straight forward. In this day and age, it is key to get support for the platform, so it is sensible to work with partners.... It is encouraging (and telling) that Apple released 10.6.1, a week after the original release date. It is true also that you can only do so much testing in a workshop. The developers release will have revealed many problems, but the 'real word' you guys, will have revealed more!
Unfortunately Apple's success in iPhone apps, which are general are shiny, but lightweight, with a quick financial return has led to some excitement and complacency me thinks. for example, software companies (like Apple) have to think where the next buck is coming from. So with the example of MacSpeech. I feel certain that they thought they had time to launch profession versions of their product, in the form of Legal and Medical issues, and keep up with the SL compliancy. So Apple moving the release date forward does not help anyone, really does it?
Anyway, it will be alright! The issues being experienced are not too great to get sorted out quickly I think.
De-marking responsibilities and duties is not always straight forward. In this day and age, it is key to get support for the platform, so it is sensible to work with partners.... It is encouraging (and telling) that Apple released 10.6.1, a week after the original release date. It is true also that you can only do so much testing in a workshop. The developers release will have revealed many problems, but the 'real word' you guys, will have revealed more!
Unfortunately Apple's success in iPhone apps, which are general are shiny, but lightweight, with a quick financial return has led to some excitement and complacency me thinks. for example, software companies (like Apple) have to think where the next buck is coming from. So with the example of MacSpeech. I feel certain that they thought they had time to launch profession versions of their product, in the form of Legal and Medical issues, and keep up with the SL compliancy. So Apple moving the release date forward does not help anyone, really does it?
Anyway, it will be alright! The issues being experienced are not too great to get sorted out quickly I think.
Actually, Apple not only said that some applications will have problems, they said that Snow Leopard "checks your applications to make sure theyre compatible and sets aside any programs known to be incompatible."
http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/
It is true, that Apple do far for than most in this respect. For example a few months ago Apple 'quietly' fixed an issue that was almost certainly a Microsoft issue, with Office and the way it worked, or rather didn't work so well with spaces (formatting palette getting lost in spaces!'.
Apple, also do more than most, with quiet updates for applications. I really like the fact they Apple do regular updates for iPhoto and the like, including RAW formats for new camera's. They give these to everyone, not just those that have bought the latest version of iLife. This is unlike pretty much unlike any 3rd part app provider would do. So I suppose in this respect Apple share the wealth of success with iPhone to all of the Apple community.
I would really like to see more stuff coming onto Apple, particularly in the area of medical systems, diabetes Blood Glucose device apps, online medical care databases, currently only supported on PC (yes even web-apps, such as Medtronic CareLink). I would like to see Apple do the best they can to encourage those 3rd parties sitting the boundaries, to do more than dip the toe into Mac OS X. For Apple to be seen as a serious contender to other OS's, with the new dawn of Google OS on the horizon, and other cloud OS providers coming there must be many ????'s
I think I entered this conversation, with the view that it is a good idea for people not to jump on the bandwagon with new releases too quickly. I have never known a new release on any OS, go without hitches. For example, in UK local government, it took them 3 years after XP release to provide it the customers, although frustrating to many employee's it was essential to ensure full computability across services before distributing it. They haven't even considered Vista!
Apple, also do more than most, with quiet updates for applications. I really like the fact they Apple do regular updates for iPhoto and the like, including RAW formats for new camera's. They give these to everyone, not just those that have bought the latest version of iLife. This is unlike pretty much unlike any 3rd part app provider would do. So I suppose in this respect Apple share the wealth of success with iPhone to all of the Apple community.
I would really like to see more stuff coming onto Apple, particularly in the area of medical systems, diabetes Blood Glucose device apps, online medical care databases, currently only supported on PC (yes even web-apps, such as Medtronic CareLink). I would like to see Apple do the best they can to encourage those 3rd parties sitting the boundaries, to do more than dip the toe into Mac OS X. For Apple to be seen as a serious contender to other OS's, with the new dawn of Google OS on the horizon, and other cloud OS providers coming there must be many ????'s
I think I entered this conversation, with the view that it is a good idea for people not to jump on the bandwagon with new releases too quickly. I have never known a new release on any OS, go without hitches. For example, in UK local government, it took them 3 years after XP release to provide it the customers, although frustrating to many employee's it was essential to ensure full computability across services before distributing it. They haven't even considered Vista!
That's normal for corporations. There's no reason to upgrade if what you're using serves its purpose perfectly well, and unlike consumers, corporate purchasers tend not to be swayed by eye candy.
That may be one limiting factor on Mac purchases in business environments. When you have a new OS release every year and a half, it's hard to maintain support.
Excellent point!! I do like SL but the fact that I now have to wait for some programs to catch up is a little annoying to me. I can't complain though because nobody forced me to buy the disc. That's what I get for being so impatient.
I doubt Snow Leopard will take away drivers.
It has. My Dad has a Canon MF4150 that worked in Leopard and after the Snow Leopard install it does not work because there is no driver for it. I am very surprised this has happened.
I have a home based business and I cannot watch the tutorials
because QT does not work,
I want SL out now !!!
After installing Snow Leopard I started noticing keychain memory loss, then 3 days later my wireless Airport quit working. The airport is recognized by the 10.6.1 or 10.6.0, but no communications. Apple forums has found that this is a BIG problem with the Mac Mini, but apparently not just the "Mini".
The Quicktime pluggin for "QT Player" will no longer work unless you select it by using "Open With" option (each time) for wmv (maybe other formats).
10.6.1 should fix most printer driver problems.
Zero reason to go back>?
Obviously there would be a reason if some of the most important applications you are runing and depending on do not have a driver that is compatible with the application and your work depended on it. There is one reason smarty! Want 10 more other reason?
Obviously there would be a reason if some of the most important applications you are runing and depending on do not have a driver that is compatible with the application and your work depended on it. There is one reason smarty! Want 10 more other reason?
SL is a nightmare
+1 for the get SL the hell outta my machine. Found this thread whilst trying to find out how to go "back" to 10.5
2 weeks ago I had a 4Gb 3.06iMac that ran just fine, now it locks up daily (I only use the machine for a couple of hours in the evening). Apple Mail can only be closed by force quitting, the download manager on Firefox I use stopped working and Sims 3 crashes (was fine before). I daren't fire up the Adobe Master Suite 3.3 I bought last August! Until I installed SL I didn't know what a critical panic was. Now I see them regularly.
I don't think I've had as unusable a machine as this ever. Even in the worst days of windows I wouldn't get a fatal lock-up every couple of hours.
I'm sure there are some people out there having fun with 10.6, but lots of users are have expensive hardware that has been junked by it, so yeah, lots of reasons to ditch 10.6 until it works properly.
+1 for the get SL the hell outta my machine. Found this thread whilst trying to find out how to go "back" to 10.5
2 weeks ago I had a 4Gb 3.06iMac that ran just fine, now it locks up daily (I only use the machine for a couple of hours in the evening). Apple Mail can only be closed by force quitting, the download manager on Firefox I use stopped working and Sims 3 crashes (was fine before). I daren't fire up the Adobe Master Suite 3.3 I bought last August! Until I installed SL I didn't know what a critical panic was. Now I see them regularly.
I don't think I've had as unusable a machine as this ever. Even in the worst days of windows I wouldn't get a fatal lock-up every couple of hours.
I'm sure there are some people out there having fun with 10.6, but lots of users are have expensive hardware that has been junked by it, so yeah, lots of reasons to ditch 10.6 until it works properly.
How does an anti-virus software resource stop crashing apps!!!! Sounds ridiculous ! Do you for a family member work for Intego?
How does an anti-virus software resource stop crashing apps!!!! Sounds ridiculous ! Do you for a family member work for Intego?
You misread the post. Jjividen didn't purchase the software to stop applications from crashing, just updated the application. Presumably, that means the software was the culprit in that case.
Thanks for giving tlinford the information he needed to understand this difficult situation with Snow Leopard's crashing. I do not work for Intego, I updated the application and everything stopped crashing for about 4 days. SL has again resurfaced with crashing problems...the only thing I have done since is install Rosetta in order to run a demo of a Photoshop filter I was interested in using and possibly purchasing. Trying to uninstall Rosetta is difficult so I haven't tested my system again without it.
Problems with .wmv files
I removed QT X to return to QT 7.6.4 which along with installing Flip4Mac beta is supposed to get wmv files to open in SL. When I try to install QT 7 I get a message saying that it can't be installed because QT X is still there. Aside from dragging QT X to the trash and cleaning out the p-list what else must I do to cleanse QT X from my Imac?
I removed QT X to return to QT 7.6.4 which along with installing Flip4Mac beta is supposed to get wmv files to open in SL. When I try to install QT 7 I get a message saying that it can't be installed because QT X is still there. Aside from dragging QT X to the trash and cleaning out the p-list what else must I do to cleanse QT X from my Imac?
Something else is going on since I and many other people have been able to run and have both versions of Quicktime in SL. BTW, I don't think you want to uninstall Quicktime X - its kinda seen as important to the system.
What version are you trying to install?
wmv files
I read on another forum that people having trouble opening .wmv files after installing SL were getting it to work by going back to QT 7.6.4 and downloading Flip4Mac beta. I'm new to Apple so I tried to uninstall/reinstall; uninstall QT 10, reinstall QT 7.6.4 but it didn't work. Somewhere in the bowels of the system there is a switch set that says QT 10 is still there and the system will not let me install QT 7.
I read on another forum that people having trouble opening .wmv files after installing SL were getting it to work by going back to QT 7.6.4 and downloading Flip4Mac beta. I'm new to Apple so I tried to uninstall/reinstall; uninstall QT 10, reinstall QT 7.6.4 but it didn't work. Somewhere in the bowels of the system there is a switch set that says QT 10 is still there and the system will not let me install QT 7.