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doubt it...if all the major media companies pull the plug on iTunes Music Store, I can't see Apple keeping it around.


I'd much rather see artist leave the record labels, and Apple let them sell/give their music away in iTunes Music store....to bad Apple's won't ever allow that

Actually, iTunes DOES allow artists without labels to publish, hope more artists do that to bypass the greedy labels.
 
Your music rent is due!

Ugh, I hate subscription music services. I want to own my music not rent it.

I'm guessing Microsoft will be involved somehow since they are already paying rent to Universal on every Zune they sell.

Probably no Mac support just to kick Steve Jobs in the nuts.
 
This is nothing but a brazen money grab, plain and simple.

As the owner of a small record label, I can tell you right now: there is no way that this or any other label that hasn't already been made, will benefit from this move.

Morris oughta put his d**k back in his pants and wake up. iTunes is the best thing since sliced bread for him AND his cronies.

There's a reason The Steve wants to keep songs priced at 99 cents, people. THINK about it.
 
Step by step the big 4 start to fall. They're so desprate to try to stay alive that they pull crap like this out of their ass'.
 
Explain to me how this isn't anything more than a thinly veiled "hardware tax." And by "hardware tax" I mean a 90 dollar surcharge that the hardware companies will *certainly* relay to the consumer or else forfeit their entire profit margin or more. And by that I mean "the worst idea ever in the long, sad history of bad ideas."
 
The more competition, the better... this seems to be true regarding iTunes..

I would agree in this case if I thought for an instant that the music industry were interested in competition. I think they're more interested in maintaining their dominance and cutting Apple (and other competitors) out of the picture. I suspect that in their perfect world, prices are kept artificially high, much worse than anything they accuse Apple of doing.
 
- Apple assumes the Matrix 'I know Kung Fu' pose...flicks hand in a beckoning fashion at Universal -

"Bring it."

:cool:
 
I think in future years more artist will bypass the studio to keep ownerhip of their work. It's come to a time where they can afford their own equipment and do their own producing. The record companies are not seeing any where the same action they used to. They have to look for other options. All business would rather see a constant revenue stream as opposed to a flash in the pan. This is one way to do it.

I have always preferred to own my music, even if I simply tape off radio. I also almost always buy used/discounted CDs. I sometimes use e-music (30 songs monthly), I have only purchased about 6 songs from iTunes, about 9 TV shows, 4 music videos, 2 Disney shorts over the last 3 years. Everything else is ripped off my home collection of CDs and DVDs.

I don't think this will work but I understand that they have to try...money is running out. I also heard that they are trying to get money off the re-sale market, good luck. I wonder if music, like movies, fall into public domain after a few decades?
 
The record companies better be careful. Anything that could be determined to be price fixing to the end user is called "collusion". If they were to build some joint venture website and collectively fix the price of services to all carriers, there is no doubt in my mind that that would be illegal as hell.
 
I think in future years more artist will bypass the studio to keep ownerhip of their work. It's come to a time where they can afford their own equipment and do their own producing.

Bypass the studio??? you have no idea how the industry works ...
 
I'd much rather see artist leave the record labels, and Apple let them sell/give their music away in iTunes Music store....to bad Apple's won't ever allow that

They couldn't operate a solely free service even if they wanted to, think about the bandwidth costs and paying people to add it all in there etc... :p
 
They couldn't operate a solely free service even if they wanted to, think about the bandwidth costs and paying people to add it all in there etc... :p


sure they could, how do you think this site runs?? advertising... and if you don't think it can be profitable, take a look at Google's stocks...
 
Of interest, Businessweek notes that despite these efforts to undermine iTunes, Universal can't afford to simply pull their music from iTunes, which holds a 70% marketshare in music downloads.
So the question is, under what conditions would Universal pull out of iTunes?
 
one glimmer of hope:

Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) announced earlier this week that he has fulfilled his contract with Universal, and is now leaving the world of major labels forever. A couple quotes from him on the subject:

"As of right now, Nine Inch Nails is a totally free agent, free of any recording contract with any label. I have been under recording contracts for 18 years and have watched the business radically mutate from one thing to something inherently very different and it gives me great pleasure to be able to finally have a direct relationship with the audience as I see fit."

And this one from a few months earlier, speculating more on what he'll do now : "I would put out my next album, you could download it from my site at as high a bit-rate as you want, pay $4 through PayPal. Come see the show and buy a T-shirt if you like it. I would put out a nicely packaged merchandise piece, if you want to own a physical thing. And it would come out the day that it's done in the studio, not this "Let's wait three months" bulls---."

Great stuff as far as I'm concerned. Let's hope other artists follow his march away from Universal.
 
All I see is the hardware and cell companies have to pay $5/month. How does that translate to the consumer? And how do you take a subscription on the road?

Seems confusing to me. Maybe I should read the article.
 
I wonder if music, like movies, fall into public domain after a few decades?

Everything eventually ends up as public domain, I think right now though it is under copywright for the life of the creator plus 70 years, so any current music will not be public domain during your lifetime.
 
Great stuff as far as I'm concerned. Let's hope other artists follow his march away from Universal.


He's not the first one to do this.... Prince was very influential in how to be successful apart from a major label... But just the same, I wish NIN well and hope they help in the collapsing of the big 4
 
Everything eventually ends up as public domain, I think right now though it is under copywright for the life of the creator plus 70 years, so any current music will not be public domain during your lifetime.

Correct! (although i think its 60 years... not that that really matters)
But this isn't really for the master recordings, as much as the copyright of the song... So people will be able to play, record, and do what ever without having to pay anyone in royalties.
 
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) announced earlier this week that he has fulfilled his contract with Universal, and is now leaving the world of major labels forever. A couple quotes from him on the subject:

"As of right now, Nine Inch Nails is a totally free agent, free of any recording contract with any label. I have been under recording contracts for 18 years and have watched the business radically mutate from one thing to something inherently very different and it gives me great pleasure to be able to finally have a direct relationship with the audience as I see fit."

And this one from a few months earlier, speculating more on what he'll do now : "I would put out my next album, you could download it from my site at as high a bit-rate as you want, pay $4 through PayPal. Come see the show and buy a T-shirt if you like it. I would put out a nicely packaged merchandise piece, if you want to own a physical thing. And it would come out the day that it's done in the studio, not this "Let's wait three months" bulls---."

Great stuff as far as I'm concerned. Let's hope other artists follow his march away from Universal.

Radiohead is doing this with their new record as well. And Pearl Jam, even though they made a deal with J Records to distribute their last record, are not under contract either.

This is going to happen. You can bypass the studio now...
 
It'tl never work....again. How many subscription services do we need to see fall under before they get this?
 
So wait let me get this strait, $5 per month, assuming that they keep the player for 18 months, = $90. What if they keep it for 5 years? does that mean the music company will keep paying or will they just drop you and tell you to fork up again?
 
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