iPhone Unjailbreak iOS 7.1.2 w/out update

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by Thaenor, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. Thaenor macrumors member

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    Hello,

    Jailbreak has caused 2 issues with my iPhone:

    1. Safari, Mail, Weather and Calculator stopped working and crashed every time I opened them. Solved by installing a tweak "safari/mail fix"

    2. Celullar data settings (where you allow which apps can use data) got all messed up. Some apps refused to turn off (they would switch back once I closed the menu).
    Fixed (sort of) by installing iFile and sending an SQL command to alter the flags on all apps. Now I can switch any app except for Cydia, that one must always be on.

    So far these issues have been solvable to some extend, but I fear what may happen next... so I want to unjailbreak my 4s and go back to the apple friendly 7.1.2 but iTunes forces me to go to iOS8 if I restore iPhone from iTunes. Can anyone help?
     
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  3. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Unfortunately, no. If you want to get rid of the jailbreak, you have to restore the phone. However, the only versions of iOS that Apple is signing is 8.1 or 8.1.1. You won't be able to get back to 7.1.2.

    BL.
     
  4. Thaenor thread starter macrumors member

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    :( :( :(
    with all the inter webs telling people on 4s not to update... FML!


    iLexRat popped up in my googling but I didn't pay much attention as I did want to unjailbreak and not just clean the phone and keep the jailbreak.
    Guess I need to look into that now... as I'm stuck with either JB and iOS 7.1.2 or unjailbroken (and slow as hell) iOS 8
     
  5. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Best bet is jump to 8.1.0 while Apple is still signing it.
     
  6. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I made the mistake of upgrading as well. And while it is marginally slower on my 4s as well, Jasmine constantly crashes on iOS 8, and the developer doesn't appear to want to fix the app.

    I'm planning on jumping to an iPhone 6 anyway, so I'm okay until then.

    BL.
     
  7. Thaenor thread starter macrumors member

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    Isn't iOS 8.1.0 slower than 7.1.2?

    Isn't my best option to stay jail broken on 7 and wait out has Apple fixes their OS...
    I mean they should get to a point where the iOS 8.x should be better or almost as good as 7... And beyond that the 4s would no longer get any updates... Inst that how it's worked in the past or am I just misinformed?
     
  8. bradl macrumors 68040

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    This should help you.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1821131

    But also with what you are thinking, when they put out newer updates, some hardware has to become the lowest common denominator. In this case, iOS 9 will probably see the end of support for the 4s, just as iOS8 saw the end of support for the iPhone 4. So expect the 4s to be slower than the others. it's the oldest of the supported hardware.

    BL.
     
  9. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Well if you broke your iOS 7 setup you're pretty much screwed and need to restore to 8.1.0 (and should do so, before the 8.1.0 window closes)

    Agreed. Your 4S is pretty old. If you're tight on cash, go for 5S or 5C which are cheap/free.
     
  10. Thaenor thread starter macrumors member

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    well... so far the iPhone is working rather nicely. I uninstalled all of my tweaks/apps from cydia so it should be working almost like an unjailbroken iPhone... I'm going to test if I have any battery issues.

    So you think all iOS updates from 8.1 are going to worsen the performance on a 4s? According to what I've read iOS 8.0 was terrible (on 4s) but the 8.1 has shown performance improvements (though still not enough to outshine 7)

    In America maybe, the same does not apply to the rest of the world
     
  11. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Go to 8.1.1 and use TiaG after it's approved by muscle nerd and the likes.

    8.1.1 has iOS 8 performance enhancements for the 4S.
     
  12. Thaenor thread starter macrumors member

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    hum... english plz :confused: what's TiaG? Who are the muscle nerds?

    :confused::confused::confused:
     
  13. darricksailo macrumors 601

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    TaiG is the new group/jailbreak that will work with iOS 8.1.1

    Musclenerd is the nickname, for the lack of a better word, of a well known person/hacker in the jailbreak community
     
  14. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Haha

    I'm saying that you can't go to any other software other than 8.1.1, which has performance benefits for the 4S. Since the jailbreak has been deemed "clean", you can now use that tool to jailbreak on 8.1.1:

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/11/28/taig-releases-jailbreak-8-1-1/
     
  15. Thaenor thread starter macrumors member

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    As opposed to iOS 8.0 right? not iOS 7.1.2, which means I can't be sure my phone won't be lag when I slide the unlock bar or CC or even notifications...

    I'm gonna look into that... but it has been said before (in here or another thread) that jailbreak does little about performance... right?

    PS: if it hasn't been clear before, it's the inability to go back, and the fact that I see people regretting their updates that's holding me back.
     
  16. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    I'm not really understanding you.

    In any event, if you want to restore or change softwares, iOS 8.1.1 is your only option and has a jailbreak.
     
  17. pdxmatts macrumors 68000

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    After you remove all the tweaks, add back iCleaner Pro, tap the + sign on the bottom left and tap Preference files and delete them all, then tap the paintbrush add Cydia to the list and tap clean to get rid of all the old files from the tweaks and app files. Start adding back your favorite tweaks one by one to see if any are causing a conflict and keep your jailbreak and 7.1.2. Use iCleaner to clean out your cache a few times a weak to keep it running smooth.
     
  18. XboxMySocks macrumors 68020

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    Don't actually do this.
     
  19. pdxmatts macrumors 68000

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    Why not?
     
  20. BumpyFlatline macrumors 68030

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    It can slow down your device. Similar to killing every single app when you click the home button to exit. It takes more cpu resources and therefore battery power to regenerate all the cache files. Cache files are used to quickly load images and such so that it does not have to go back to the source and regenerate. For example, if you visit a website, it will save a bunch of cache files so that the next time you visit the page, it can just load them from your hard drive instead of downloading them again from the server which takes extra cpu, battery, and data if you're on cellular. This general idea applies to most apps. Running iCleaner frequently can make things slower.

    Once a month is probably enough to run iCleaner to free up disk space. But doing it more frequently will have a negative effect and will not really speed up your device.

    Also, speaking of iCleaner, don't disable daemons.

    Hope that helps explain a little.
     
  21. pdxmatts macrumors 68000

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    Thank you for that explanation. When I delete a tweak, is it ok then to use iCleaner to delete out of the preference files?
     
  22. BumpyFlatline, Dec 2, 2014
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    BumpyFlatline macrumors 68030

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    You are very welcome.

    Yes absolutely. You tap on the icon in the bottom left and then go to the preference screen right? And then delete the specific preference file? I do this every time I remove a tweak.
     
  23. XboxMySocks macrumors 68020

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    If you mean to actually delete the individual preference files then yes of course. :)
     

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