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Unlimited Data?

Boiler said:
How?
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First as I said, you need an original iPhone and you can borrow one if you know someone who has one. You will also need a new never used before sim.

Backup the original iPhone FIRST. Insert the new sim into the iPhone. After backing up, restore the iPhone.

Once the restore is complete, iTunes will prompt you to activate your iPhone. There is a question that asks are you activating a new phone or replacing you current phone with this iPhone, select that you are replacing your iPhone with this iPhone.

Next it will ask you to select your rate plan and data+SMS plan. I simply selected the unlimited data + 200 SMS. It will tell you that you are agreeing to a two year contract but you really aren't so just click through and let it activate the iPhone. AT&T is only offering unlimited data plans for the original iPhone and there is no choice but to get the unlimited so you are all set here.

Now you can login to your online account to verify that you do have unlimited data.

Next, take out the sim and place it in your 3G, 3GS or iPhone 4. Within a few hours, AT&T will send you an SMS stating that they have detected that you are using an unapproved data plan with your iPhone and that they have added the appropriate plan for you. When you now login to your account online, you will see that they have changed your plan to the unlimited 3G $30 plan. Do not call AT&T and have them change your data plan because they may sign you up for a new two year contract to do it.

It works, I have done just this today. Enjoy.
 
folks i was thinking outside of the box, att got rid of the unlimited to make them more money down the road. i kept unlimited bcuz i THINK a couple things will happen down the line

1. u will b able to facetime not only on wifi, but also 3g, those people will use more data, thus, making att more money on overage charge, thats just my take,
2. has anyone notice the change to your contacts on your phone when u r in edit mode, at the bottom it has an option for "LINKED CARDS",at first i thought to my self wht use is that for, none, then i thought about it alittle more and my guess is that it will b for future down the line group facetime

now once again that is just me thinkin outside the box
 
gilbo said:
folks gotta think outside of the box, att got rid of the unlimited to make them more money down the road. i kept unlimited bcuz i THINK a couple things will happen down the line

1. u will b able to facetime not only on wifi, but also 3g, those people will use more data, thus, making att more money on overage charge, thats just my take,

now once again that is just me thinkin outside the box
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Too bad, I fear that AT&T will find a way to make Facetime so that you have to have the new plans. They did it with tethering, I think they will do the same with Facetime. This forces us iPhone users to accept the new plan. Also I expect we will not be grandfathered in for the next iPhone....
 
Att isn't doing this to save the consumer money. Saving the consumer money would mean unlimited data without any type of softcap at a reduced rate. What is actually happening is charging less for delivering less (or being liable for less) so the strain on the network is reduced, with the tiny side effect of stifling activity from firms who rely on ATTs networks to deliver the goods yet don't pay ATT for the privilege (though they already pay some carrier to deliver the goods).

It's all good. For now the masses will be lulled into believing that anyone who utilizes more than 200MB or 2Gb is some sort of monster downloading full length kiddy porn on the go, so it'll be ok to shut these people down, all until the day we are paying 10-20 bucks a month to download one or two Songs via iTunes and perhaps browse a page or two, after which our phones will be disabled and our next bill will have a firm message that outrageous usage will not be tolerated.

At some point I believe the masses will realize their grave mistake . It's already happening. Folks up north are seeing wicked fast high powered connections with caps so low that if you actually utilized your connection at capacity for...maybe a few days, you'd go over the cap. Here, content delivery over IP is hawt stuff (ask Apple), and incredibly lucrative. But how do we stop people from cutting the cable box and getting all their goodies from Hulu or iTunes? Easy. Cap the connection and measure the available data in something dumb like emails sent or web pages viewed. Yeah, it sucks that your ISP is giving you a 100/100 connection and a 25 gig cap, but that's like a bajillion emails and like 99999999 all text webpages! Plenty for EVERYBODY!!

So those of you who are lucky enough to still have "unlimited", utilize to your hearts content, because ATT can arbitrarily remove it at any moment. Actually, they can remove it now, but then we'd be able to use our shiny new iPhone out of contract .
 
Autopilot638 said:
"Unlimited" at 5GB? How can they call it that?

The plan they offered in Canada for a limited time (no longer available, as with your unlimited plan) was 6GB for $30. I never heard it marketed here as unlimited.
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Because ISPs have been able to call "unlimited" data as having the ability to connect to the network at any time, not actually being able to utilize the connection all the time.
 
Eddyisgreat said:
Because ISPs have been able to call "unlimited" data as having the ability to connect to the network at any time, not actually being able to utilize the connection all the time.
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wait, so is my unlimited iphone plan with att really unlimited, do i have a cap or i can use 20 gb a month if i wanted to
 
SpaceKitty said:
You can use 20GB if that's possible, it is unlimited. I've only been able to use 8GB. I can't use my phone longer than that to get more!
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i probably wont unless i download a couple movies, i was just wondering bc i was on away with no wifi for a few days and had to come on macrumors :) and used like 25 mb in 10 min so i was worried
 
Has anyone been able to get unlimited data back after canceling? I had the iPhone until 2 months ago when I sold the phone and went back to a flip phone. Now I'm planning on getting a 4G iPhone. Is there any way of getting my unlimited data back? I would assume not?
 
SpaceKitty said:
First as I said, you need an original iPhone and you can borrow one if you know someone who has one. You will also need a new never used before sim.

Backup the original iPhone FIRST. Insert the new sim into the iPhone. After backing up, restore the iPhone.

Once the restore is complete, iTunes will prompt you to activate your iPhone. There is a question that asks are you activating a new phone or replacing you current phone with this iPhone, select that you are replacing your iPhone with this iPhone.

Next it will ask you to select your rate plan and data+SMS plan. I simply selected the unlimited data + 200 SMS. It will tell you that you are agreeing to a two year contract but you really aren't so just click through and let it activate the iPhone. AT&T is only offering unlimited data plans for the original iPhone and there is no choice but to get the unlimited so you are all set here.

Now you can login to your online account to verify that you do have unlimited data.

Next, take out the sim and place it in your 3G, 3GS or iPhone 4. Within a few hours, AT&T will send you an SMS stating that they have detected that you are using an unapproved data plan with your iPhone and that they have added the appropriate plan for you. When you now login to your account online, you will see that they have changed your plan to the unlimited 3G $30 plan. Do not call AT&T and have them change your data plan because they may sign you up for a new two year contract to do it.

It works, I have done just this today. Enjoy.
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I understood everything, except the part where you put the sim card into iPhone 4. It uses a microsim while the original iphone uses the regular sim. How did you do this?
 
BINXER said:
I understood everything, except the part where you put the sim card into iPhone 4. It uses a microsim while the original iphone uses the regular sim. How did you do this?
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This is why you need a brand new micro sim. Once the original iPhone is activated and you have the unlimited data plan on that account, you then put the new Micro sim into the iPhone 4 and call and have AT&T activate the sim. It will only take a few minutes. They will ask for the IMEI number and one or two other things.

I also think that if you put the never been used micro sim into the 4 and connect to iTunes, it will allow you to activate it that way by asking your your phone number, last four on social and your zip.
 
seriously?

It's UNLIMITED?! i thought unlimited meant 5GB because there was no way to reach 5GB on a mobile phone (back in the day). This is great newz!!!!!
 
I'm so glad I got to keep my unlimited, I downloaded mobitv and paid for one month subscription so I can watch live world cup when I'm on the road and in 2 days only I managed to use up 1.9 gb, doing other things too of course, but other than the tv, it's just light surfing.


bUt I was actually thinking about moving down to 250 since I checked my usage and before the iPhone 4 on my 3g I've never really gone past 250mb.
 
Dammit Cubs said:
seriously?

It's UNLIMITED?! i thought unlimited meant 5GB because there was no way to reach 5GB on a mobile phone (back in the day). This is great newz!!!!!
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Well...
....it's "unlimited" provided that you do what they tell you to do. I think this guy on ATT's own forums said it best:

dkallan of AT&T Forums said:
By the way, this is an excerpt from the AT&T's iPhone terms document, which I apparently signed at some point during Apple's iPhone 3G purchase process, even though I was never quite told about it or presented with an opportunity to see it:
Prohibited and Permissible Uses:

Data Service sessions may be conducted only for the following purposes:

(i) Internet browsing;
(ii) email; and
(iii) corporate intranet access (including access to corporate email, customer relationship management, sales force automation, and field service automation applications).

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using services:

(i) with server devices or with host computer applications, including, without limitation, web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, PEER-TO-PEER (P2P) FILE SHARING, automated functions or any other machine-to-machine applications;
(ii) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections;
(iii) for voice over IP;
(iv) in conjunction with WWAN or other applications or devices which aggregate usage from multiple sources prior to transmission;
(v) using the services for any activity that adversely affects the ability of other people or systems to use either the services or other parties' internet-based resources including, but not limited to excessive consumption of network or system resources (whether intentional or unintentional) and "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; or
(vi) interference with or disruption of other network users, network services or network equipment.

Except for CONTENT formatted in accordance with AT&T’S WIRELESS CONTENT standards, unlimited plans cannot be used for uploading, downloading or streaming of video content (e.g. movies, TV), music or games. Furthermore, unlimited plans (except for DataConnect and Blackberry Tethered) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/PDA-to-computer accessories, Bluetooth® or any other wireless technology) to laptops, PCs, or other equipment for any purpose. Service is not intended to provide full-time connections, and the Service may be discontinued after a significant period of inactivity or after sessions of excessive usage. AT&T reserves the right to (i) limit throughput or amount of data transferred, deny Service and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network and (ii) protect its wireless network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows.

So, from the first section, the only permissible forms of usage are Internet browsing (does that mean HTML Web browsing?), e-mail, and corporate intranet access (does this mean VPN?). Really? No MobileMe? But I can use VPN to access a corporate intranet and then do whatever I want? Run high-bandwidth apps on my company's LAN and then tunnel the traffic across IPSec on the 3G network?

What about the statement that "using services with server devices or with host computer applications, ... including... automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, ... automated functions or any other machine-to-machine applications" is prohibited? So, no connecting to servers? Doesn't that eliminate Web servers, e-mail servers and VPN servers, too? How about non-HTML content over Web servers? XML/Web services? Is the App Store technically prohibited over 3G? Which built-in iPhone and approved App Store applications are therefore prohibited? Mocha VNC? RSS feeds? What do they mean by "telemetry applications"? Doesn't "telemetry" mean remote transmission of data? Isn't location awareness a form of telemetry? How about public high scores, or cookies, or sync metadata? For that matter, isn't all wireless communication a form of telemetry?

Also, apparently there is no downloading or streaming of video content or music, except for content that meets AT&T's wireless content standards? So, ignoring the previously mentioned no-server restriction, what qualifies as acceptable content? YouTube? Pandora/Tuner/Last.fm/AOL Radio? I thought that this is why people went with 3G: streaming video and music.

If I read this literally and logically, I can only come to the conclusion that in fact the only permissible usage of AT&T's iPhone unlimited data plan is no usage at all.

It seems to me that the "$30 Unlimited Data Plan" description posted prominently as part of every iPhone plan information sheet should have included an asterisk. As a self-proclaimed "power user", I like to maximize the capabilities of my iPhone. With an "unlimited" data plan, I would expect to be able to download and use iPhone applications, enjoy streaming media content, access my home network services and much, much more--all without worrying that AT&T is one day going to drop a huge bill on me or terminate my service because their lawyers suddenly decide that my Pandora application, legitimately purchased in the App Store, constitutes a prohibited use of the 3G network. The idea of "basically unlimited... but just don't use it too much or in unusual ways" is a little too vague, arbitrary and subjective. This kind of contractual wording troubles me because it seems to imply that, basically, all forms of usage are technically prohibited and that AT&T can selectively penalize anyone for any usage patterns they wish.

I guess I'll just have to trust that AT&T will enforce their policy with good faith in mind.
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SpaceKitty said:
This is why you need a brand new micro sim. Once the original iPhone is activated and you have the unlimited data plan on that account, you then put the new Micro sim into the iPhone 4 and call and have AT&T activate the sim. It will only take a few minutes. They will ask for the IMEI number and one or two other things.

I also think that if you put the never been used micro sim into the 4 and connect to iTunes, it will allow you to activate it that way by asking your your phone number, last four on social and your zip.
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Thanks Spacekitty. Just so I understand, you need 2 NEW sim cards, 1 regular one for the old iphone and 1 microsim for the iphone 4? Can you just walk into AT&T and ask for them?
 
SpaceKitty said:
First as I said, you need an original iPhone and you can borrow one if you know someone who has one. You will also need a new never used before sim.

Backup the original iPhone FIRST. Insert the new sim into the iPhone. After backing up, restore the iPhone.

Once the restore is complete, iTunes will prompt you to activate your iPhone. There is a question that asks are you activating a new phone or replacing you current phone with this iPhone, select that you are replacing your iPhone with this iPhone.

Next it will ask you to select your rate plan and data+SMS plan. I simply selected the unlimited data + 200 SMS. It will tell you that you are agreeing to a two year contract but you really aren't so just click through and let it activate the iPhone. AT&T is only offering unlimited data plans for the original iPhone and there is no choice but to get the unlimited so you are all set here.

Now you can login to your online account to verify that you do have unlimited data.

Next, take out the sim and place it in your 3G, 3GS or iPhone 4. Within a few hours, AT&T will send you an SMS stating that they have detected that you are using an unapproved data plan with your iPhone and that they have added the appropriate plan for you. When you now login to your account online, you will see that they have changed your plan to the unlimited 3G $30 plan. Do not call AT&T and have them change your data plan because they may sign you up for a new two year contract to do it.

It works, I have done just this today. Enjoy.
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I'm kind of confused. So lets say you bought the iphone 4 with a 450 minute voice plan plus 2gb data. Then by using your method, the 2gb data plan will be replaced by unlimited plan? and if so does this include unlimited texting as well?
 
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