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Last month, cybersecurity research firm Paradigm Shift published details about a boot ROM vulnerability affecting Apple's A12 and A13 chips, but it has since removed the blog post after being sued by digital forensics firm Magnet Forensics.

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In a complaint filed in Georgia federal court this month, Magnet Forensics alleged that the security vulnerability revealed by Paradigm Shift was substantially the same as the one its former employee Mario Del Gaudio worked on before joining Paradigm Shift. Accordingly, Magnet Forensics alleged that Del Gaudio exposed its trade secrets.

Apple's A12 and A13 chips power the iPhone XS and iPhone 11 series, along with select other devices. A boot ROM vulnerability cannot be patched with an iOS update, as it involves code permanently embedded in the chip's read-only memory.

Article Link: Lawsuit Filed After Apple's A12 and A13 Chips Hit With New Unpatchable Exploit
 
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I never said the update would fix it. I was pointing out that Apple still considers the 11 to be a current device, in contrast to earlier posters positing this model isn’t being used anymore.
 
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I never said the update would fix it. I was pointing out that Apple still considers the 11 to be a current device, in contrast to earlier posters positing this model isn’t being used anymore.
Sorry, I wasn't sure which side you were on 😉
 
well, well ....

"Why Companies Keep Flaws Secret
Forensic firms like Magnet Forensics operate under a strict commercial zero-day model. They intentionally do not disclose vulnerabilities to vendors like Apple for two reasons: [1]
  • Product Utility: Their entire business model relies on selling hardware boxes (like GrayKey) to law enforcement and intelligence agencies to extract evidence from locked iPhones. If they disclose a vulnerability to Apple, Apple may find architectural or software mitigation techniques that render the forensic tools obsolete. [1]
  • Competitive Edge: Keeping unpatchable SecureROM capabilities secret ensures that rival forensics firms cannot copy the technique and implement it into competing law enforcement tools. [1, 2]"
 
The iPhone 11 came out in what, 2019? That's 7 years ago. Who cares?
I still use mine as my work phone and ill probably hold onto it as long as I can since it still has a physical sim slot unlike my new iPhones.

It works perfectly fine for what I use it for, calls, texts and emails.
 
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As of mid 2026, it is estimated that about 1/5 to 1/4 of all iPhones in active use are actually iPhone 11 series and earlier.
That actually surprises me. Maybe I live in a priviledged part of the world (Canada), but I don't think I see any iPhones that old anymore.

I just think it is a sad world when people feel entitled wnough to actually complain over an issue, that was not an issue when the device was launched over 6 years ago. And if yuo are still using an iPhone 11, perhaps it's time to upgrade...
 
The iPhone 11 came out in what, 2019? That's 7 years ago. Who cares?

The iPhone 11 came out in what, 2019? That's 7 years ago. Who cares?
Only rich nerds with tons of disposable cash upgrade their phone before the phone stops working altogether.

Even in the US, there are tons of MAGA voters who are in a panic because the price of gas went up by $2. Do you think a guy like that would spend $1,000 every year on the new phone? Then, in terms of population, what are the larger countries other than the US? In order: India, China, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, and then Russia and Mexico. Those are where MOST people in the world live. In fact, the US has only 5% of the world's population
 
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Only rich nerds with tons of disposable cash upgrade their phone before the phone stops working altogether.
Nah. A lot of people go into debt buying gadgets to try to get the latest color of iPhone to appear successful. Apple has become such a fashion accessory.

Never finance a phone.
 
That actually surprises me. Maybe I live in a priviledged part of the world (Canada), but I don't think I see any iPhones that old anymore.

I just think it is a sad world when people feel entitled wnough to actually complain over an issue, that was not an issue when the device was launched over 6 years ago. And if yuo are still using an iPhone 11, perhaps it's time to upgrade...
I live in Canada too and we are fairly well off, but we would still have an XR in use by one of our kids if the XR hadn't died last year. That means it had a life of ~7 years until it died. We replaced it with a 16e. I would have preferred to get a refurbished 15 Pro, but they weren't available from Apple Canada at the time, and I didn't think a new 15 was a great value considering it cost more than the 16e, didn't support AI, and had significantly worse battery life. MagSafe support isn't an issue since we always get MagSafe cases anyway.

BTW, back in the day when the iPhone minis were still around, I noticed that the kids in our local school would shun them despite their lower price and would instead get regular sized iPhones on the used market that were 3-4 years old.

In effect, we are doing the same thing in our family. The parents get new phones and use them for 4-5 years, and then they get passed down to the kids to use for several more years (after a battery replacement).

iPhone 11 is getting iOS 27. Apple wouldn’t upgrade the 11 if no one was using it.
Yep, and my other kid's 12 Pro Max will likely get iOS 28 as well. That means the 12 Pro Max which was released in 2020 will likely get the most current iOS version until 2028, for a total of 8 years of the most up-to-date iOS support. And then it will get another couple of years of security updates too, bringing it to a decade of iOS support. However, in 2027 I will replace my wife's iPhone 14 Pro Max with a 19 Pro Max, and pass down the 14 Pro Max to replace the kid's 12 Pro Max. The 14 Pro Max has a battery health of 82%, so we will replace that battery soon so that it should be good for several more years.

With 6 GB RAM, the 12 Pro Max still has decent overall performance. It does lag a bit here and there, but I could still use it as my main driver if necessary. The main reason I upgraded from it to the 17 Pro last year was not because of the overall performance but because I wanted the new 4/8X telephoto on the 17 Pro.

Given the fact that iOS is kept up-to-date for such a long time and the performance remains very decent on older iPhones these days, having an 8-9 year usage cycle of iPhones is reasonable, even in more wealthy countries like Canada and the US, especially when half of those years of usage is for devices passed down to kids or relatives. And even if they are sold, that means someone else will be using it for a while.
 
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In 2027 I will replace my wife's iPhone 14 Pro Max with a 19 Pro Max

There will never be an iPhone 19 series or family.

As a current owner of iPhone 11 Pro Max, I still believe that flat sides belong to 5" screen or smaller while rounded edges is for anything larger.

Not everyone buys the latest and greatest so there are those like me that purchase the earlier models since it is within the budget constraints and still getting software updates even if not all the latest features are available. Apps still support iOS 18.x so I will only upgrade once I go with a newer iPhone model.
 
There will never be an iPhone 19 series or family. ...
I see where you're coming from, and while they skipped the "9" label in favor of releasing the "10" alongside the "8", and the Anniversary edition is almost guaranteed to be the "20" next year... that doesn't necessarily mean that history is guaranteed to repeat itself perfectly, especially with the 18 pro series coming out this year instead of next year.
 
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